Kannadin

It really depends on how much race, religion or social status weighs in your personal life. For some people this can a truly completely problem to solve. In India, murders are still happening because of people loving a person of a different religion than their own.

I'm not saying they should have changed the central theme on homophobia... Just that we could definitely transfer it to other issues. Of course it's not gonna be exactly the same, but the consequences can be just as dramatic depending on where you're from.

The main difference I guess is that people from the LGBTQ+ community have to fight Society as a whole on top of their family, but since the drama only dealt with the family aspect and not the societal aspect, my comment was only directed to that aspect of their struggle.

As usual in these types of conflict, people can feign openness as long as it doesn't concern someone from their own family, that's when the curtain falls and you realize people you thought would naturally be ok with certain things just aren't.

I won't specify which particular issue I faced... But I've gone through that 20 years ago. I had to make peace with lots of things, I made the work... My family never completely did. It's still a sore subject, got almost cut off from them and our relation have never been the same since. AND they still regularly try to 'push their agenda' on me...

And I'm almost 40... Sigh...Even if they apparently give in at some point - if they ever do which might never happen when it comes to homosexuality... - they're never gonna give it up. It's more a matter of having no choice BUT to accept than truly accepting you as you are.

The mother was very difficult to watch for me as well. Reminded me of my mum 20 years ago. Really my blood pressure watching this show...
Just talking about it makes me angry.

So err... I want to make sure the question is seen so I'm leaving it open but it's a spoiler so if you haven't watched the series yet you can skip that post

OPEN SPOILER QUESTION:

Didn't the aunt kill ther own maid? I just don't understand how she was only prosecuted for 'attempted murder' on Home when she literally admitted she got rid of her maid and we saw her maid's ghost. Also in the following episode, Home is asking the uncle if they can reduce her aunt's punition but... Isn't the aunt A MURDERER? Why was the maid never mentioned again? I just don't get that part so if I've missed something please do tell.

Thanks in advance.

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The idea is not to sell you 8 episodes but at least 30 or even more over the span of many years so that you keep coming back to their plaforms.

Stories aren't made to 'binge' or 'not binge'. They're supposed to have a beginning, a middle and an end whether you watch it in one go or over the span of several days or weeks is your own preference.

Netflix or Disney + or any other such big American platforms' goal is not to provide you a with good story: it's to provide you with something that makes you come back to their platform.
Quality doesn't matter what matters is your time.

Hence the idea is to sell one good season. If people are hooked, they're gonna milk it as usual and people are gonna stick to it as they always do because they get attached to the show's characters even if season 2 is not as good as the first one and the 3rd season is worse than the second and so on and so forth... hoping desperatly for the feelings they got watching the 1st season to come back... Which... is not going to happen since all subsequent seasons are gonna be mediocre: Not bad enough for you to drop it given the time already invested but not good enough to rave about it.

Until there's no viewers left and most people feel like they've been cheated out of their precious time and money and complain endlessly about the fact that the series should have stopped after the first season... AS IT ALWAYS HAPPEN albeit for a few exceptions.

Anyway, anybody is free to spend/waste their time as they wish. I've fled US TV series because of that, now they want to bring it to K-tv... For the moment it's still a minority of shows... but a growing minority alas...

But it's cool I'm out of that shit show. Not trusting any K-dramas exclusively produced by Netflix or Disney + any more.

Can't really say. I had some off-days during which I allowed myself to not to anything and I watched the 31 episodes during that time.... I did feel some parts were slower but since I almost binged all the series... I didn't really feel what you mentionned。

This being said... my real foray into C dramaland was "Love Between Fairy and Devil". I think I was really lucky because this drama was just wonderful from start to finish in spite of its rushed ending... Legend of Shen Li is good so far... but not mindblowingly great.

Nope... not better. Because Netflix's goal is to pollute K Dramaland with the multiple-seasons format that is rampant in the US.

Instead of telling a good story and giving closure to their viewers, they're testing the waters with 8 episodes and if the series is successful they're gonna milk it until the very last drop producing seasons after seasons until everybody gives it up , not because they've reached closure but because they got fed up with the series in question.

Profit destroying art. Well not playing that game sorry. That's a skip for me until we're sure there's no second season in the work.

Lol: "she has a soft side that only he see lol it's just another kdrama that ml fall in love with fl and do everything for her and she just like him and never change for him like all CEOs mls do in other kdramas do for their secretary fls lol"

Well that's your perception. Usually in that type of scenario, it initiates a change in the FL otherwise it wouldn't work.

Also the same in reverse has been done a LOT in K dramaland. Lots of 'toxic ML' who should be fled from and are very cruel to the FL and yet she falls for him because SHE sees his hidden side and trauma or whatever. Most famous is Boys Over Flowers... I dropped that one so I don't know for the Korean adaptation but in the original manga and in the Japanese TV adaption in 2007, the ML pays some goons to RAPE the FL and yet she sticks with him. I mean, talk about crossing the line...


Anyway, It's romance, what do you expect?

I like it. It always making me laugh. It's so EXTRA. Sure it's not realistic at all but I think it's something that's been inherited since 'Hana Yori Dango' ( the original manga with countless adaptations notably Boys Over Flowers in K drama land) has swept over Asia and which some gimmicks have been adopted by literally every asian dramas everywhere.

The overall fawning never fails to make me laugh. I don't think it's supposed to be taken seriously.

I second that... I'm currently watching the Legend of Shen Li and for me the story picked up starting from episode 10/11.

But overall I avoided C dramas for years because of that. They tend to be slower than K dramas overall but since episodes are shorter honestly you don't feel the length.

I like that they never rush the 'testing the water' phase in romantic relationships as well so that's a also a bonus.

I wouldn't necessarily say that. It's more that there's some 'mob effect' on each drama airing. If for some reasons, a fair number of people enjoy a drama, doesn't matter the genre, it's gonna open the floodgate for positive comments and vice versa regardless of the quality of the drama in question. Getting validation from everybody else becomes a goal, knowingly or not, and one's personal judgment is tainted by other people's opinions.

I've got 3 personal recent examples.

Most people enjoyed 'The Judge from Hell'. I didn't. Dropped it after 6 episodes. Explained my reasons in length not making comments regarding other people's taste nor any hate regarding this or that actor or whatever. Got flooded by a mob of hard core fans. Don't remember what they said. Don't care. No amount of bullying is gonna make me change my mind but mob effect. The drama had recently ended when I started it so that explains that.

Even more recent... 2/3 weeks ago. I made a comment on "When the Stars Gossip". The drama hadn't even aired but the comment section was filled with Lee Min Ho's fans. Ok. I just mentioned he had a tendency to choose projects I didn't like same with Gong Hyo Jin and thus I was a bit wary and that no amount of big money could save a poor story BUT since the premise was interesting I'd give it a go. I mentioned a couple of dramas in the lists I dropped. I made no comment about looks, acting abilities or whatever. Just. I didn't like the dramas they respectively acted in except for 2 namely City Hunter (2011) and Thank You (2007).
There was a small shitstorm. The usual from fans who would like everybody to worship the ground of their favorite actors... As if the latter cared.

ANYWAY, fast forward to now. The first 2 episodes aired this weekend. I haven't started it yet but I was looking to see what people thought by sheer curiosity... My God that comment section has done a 180. Now everybody is vomiting on a show that has only aired 2 episodes. There might be good reasons... But you can be sure it's gonna stay that way for weeks now. Judgement has been passed and any positive voice is gonna get be targetted as being 'immature' or I don't know what. Now it's impossible to see a balanced opinion without that comment being drowned under a wave of the 'opinion police' shitting on that person's 'poor taste'.


Lovely Runner same thing. I LOVED the show. Truly. So part of the majority there. Is the show flawless? Course it isn't and when the show aired some people didn't like it because of these reasons and then some. They were attacked by a mob of fans. Some retaliated by saying 'only teenage girls and middle aged women like the show'... which is a good way to enrage part of the viewers... I personally don't care. But some really explained their reasons for disliking the show and yet were attacked. I once defended one such person and got attacked by the fan mob as well... AND I WAS ON THEIR TEAM!

Now that the show has finished for more than 6 months, the comment section last I checked has been flooded by negative comments. Some are even stalking the comment section to attack anyone liking the show. I got the same a couple of months a go when I came back to it. I posted a sole comment, just mentionning how I still very much enjoyed it and that I didn't mind the negative opinions since it didn't change my perception of the show but that it was a bit sad a show rated 9 (at the time) got as first top reviews, two very negative ones... which I've never seen on MDL on shows unpopular or not. As if an anti-fan mob had decided to double down on liking the most negative reviews... which doesn't change the fact that most people still like it. Still rated 9 as far as I know.

ANYWAY The amount of insults I received was just ridiculous... and came from nowhere... That's when I discovered the beauty of blocking people.

When your opinion runs contrary to the majority, all diverging voices is silenced by a mob of people incapable of accepting that not everybody thinks the same. Hence when this show aired the anti-fan mob was probably the majority. That doesn't say that their opinion isn't valid. Just that if it wasn't for that 'negative mob' who probably flooded the rest, more positive opinions could have been heard at the time.

I'm tired of people seeking validation through their opinion. Liking this or hating that doesn't say anything about who you are except that what resonates with you might just does not resonates with another and THAT'S OKAY.

Well, I've personally resolved this issue very simply:

1. I no longer hesitate to block people. If you're a bully, you're blocked plain and simple. Of course rude people but also those who are condescending and bully others into making them change their opinion they're not going to change. We can disagree on things but don't start to make personal comments about me because I didn't like the drama your oppa acted in. Also I'm too old for this sh*** anyway. Your oppa is probably way younger than I am.

2. I don't follow comment sections from airing shows with very popular actors or that are very hyped. I participated on "When the Phone Rings" thread when the show had just started and wasn't extremely popular but once lots of people started to follow it, I fled. I just knew how it would turn out. I didn't even try with When the Stars Gossip. I don't know when I'll watch that one... BUT if I start it before 6 months AFTER it has finished airing, I won't bother with the comment section.
I only comment on way less popular shows ( even those are not necessarily freed of 'opinion police' but there's less risks)... and I'm having a good time there.

Sure you didn't except such a long answer LOL

Lol! I was thinking the same thing when he fixed the door.
I mean even if it wasn't South Korea and legally he was supposed to work less... It would still be impossible to do ( not even talking about maintaining his looks. THAT also takes work and I've yet to meet any parent that manages to keep their figure while working when the kids are that young unless they're filthy rich... but they've been pretty clear our ML is upper middle class at best so err dramaland).

So yeah. Just gonna sweep it under the K-drama rug and enjoy the ride. Don't care anyway, I want my escapism ^^
It's just that my very cynical brain can't help but automatically make me shake my head every time I saw his perfect cute little food boxes for his daughter ( LIKE HELL DUDE!). EVEN I want to be 7 again. My own stay-at-home mum didn't even have the time for those 😂😂😂

Literally, there's 100 awards for each actors and actresses... Honestly where's the value in getting one?

First ep was slightly overly long but ep 02 was a fun watch. She's so stubborn I ended cheering with her staff when she finally acknowledged she had a secretary even if she hadn't come around to say 'hello' yet. Honestly if he wasn't that desperate for a job, would he have lasted that long?

From what we've been shown so far, he knows where his priorities lie ( best father in dramaland ... but It's definitely fiction. No way anybody can have such a healthy work/life balance with such a demanding job in South Korea).

She however... My God... Does she even have a BED? Such a waste of money, her apartment is ridiculously big, it's all grey and empty. I was getting depressed just seeing it.
She definitely needs this man more than he needs her.

I'm rooting for them obviously... The father of one + Mother of one with both children being the same age is ideal on paper. In real life, I would root for that pairing since it seems the most logical choice, especially since a parent will have an easier time understanding another parent instead of being paired with a career-driven woman... But I love my drama... So I'll be rooting for the clumsy competent CEO to get her perfect father of one.

Great chemistry so far. It's a light and relaxing watch. Just what I was looking for.

COMING TO VIKI!

https://www.viki.com/tv/40575c-the-blossoming-love

So happy ^^Really looking forward to that one :D

Hmm... Err... I don't from where you're watching... But at for me who is in Europe, there was no issue with the releases on Viki. When the initial post was made, it wasn't available on Viki but ep 5 got releaseda bit later and episode 6 is also available... No episode skip...

I get you BUT I'm sure he knew she would be flustered and leave... He's a smart cookie, he knows what he's doing ^^

(Also she's already seen quite a lot of bare chests including his, so what's there to be embarrassed about huh?)

Nah Nah it's all part of his strategy ^^

Let's bet on it then ^^

Next week we're reaching the halfway point of the drama so I'm assuming they're going to make the whole situation clear... BUT I have to say that personally I would expect Eun Ho to really be in strong denial regarding his attraction to Deok Su... and that's not what I got from their scenes. He's embarrassed but not disgusted that he's feeling THINGS when he's looking at her.

I mean It's Joseon, Sure Jun Hwa acts like he's open minded but none of them are open-minded it just doesn't go with the time-period. Either they show him struggling with a strong identity crisis... which they haven't... When Jun Hwa even suggested the idea, he strongly denied it... But from what we've seen since he saw her at the end of episode 4... the denial is almost gone, for me it's pretty clear he's admitted it to himself. Otherwise he wouldn't have turned that soft.
And why did he admit it? Well. She's a girl so being attracted is completely normal. He's not gonna act on it... at least not for now since he doesn't who she is... But he sure has recognized her from the poster.

Also at the end of episode 4... I don't know for you... But I got two different looks from Jun Hwa and Eun Ho.
Jun Hwa didn't look smitten, he looked completely panicked. For me he had the look of being afraid she was screwed. On the contrary, Eun Ho looked just in awe. That's when he realized that his manly Deok Su wasn't so manly after all.

In episode 6, all that talk about men being like this and that is just him reinforcing the idea that Deok Su is a man in order to protect her. In fact, during the whole episode, he's the one who kept on saying man this, man that when it's usually her who is doing it. I still have 10 minutes left for episode 6 to see, and I haven't heard Deok Su say 사나이이이이이이이 덕수 - Manlyyyyyyyy Deok Su even once when she said it in literally all episodes except in that one.

She's afraid of having blown her cover and to reassure her he's acting oblivious.

Anyway I'm 90% sure, I'm leaving a 10% chance of me being wrong. I might be completely mistaken though... But I doubt it 😆

Well I wish we could bet money... But I'll just be happy to tell you ' I TOLD YOU SO' next week 😎😎😎

:D Glad to hear your feedback ^^ I'm glad you're liking it :D

Does he really not know though?
I don't believe it... I think he's faking it because Jun Hwa has been trying to know if he knows without revealing that he knows.

Ok.

I'm gonna make it clearer:

Eun Ho knows but pretends he doesn't know because he's not sure the others know and doesn't want to spill the beans if the others don't know.

Jun Hwa knows but is not sure Eun Ho knows so he's been trying to get Eun Ho to confess what he knows... so far to no avail.

The only person that still didn't know at the beginning of episode 6 is Su Ra. But now HE knows but has promised not to tell the others.

Hence they ALL know, Eun Ho and Jun Hwa are pretending they not know ( and the scar talk regarding the fact that all men have scars is just a diversion from Eun Ho to make sure Jun Hwa and Deok Su both don't suspect anything regarding what he may or may not know) while Su Ra doesn't have to pretend but is not gonna tell the two others either.

So...

The only person who Deok Su can be completely at ease is Su Ra ( I hope they keep the friendship angle because the two idiots mentioned above are already enough) who she knows he knows because she told him directly.