Kannadin

Watching the trailer I was expecting something really melo-like and I got a comedy. I can't help but laugh every episodes ^^
This is how you do romance.
SO SO SO GOOD so far 🥰

Of course you're going to watch it. They're gonna capitalize on your love for the characters otherwise it can't work... If people KNEW in advance that they were going to play that card, lots of people including myself would not even bother with the first season no matter how good it turned out to be. But they'll need to get back most of the original cast and that's another story though... esp. Kang So Ra... She hasn't been really active since she got married and had kids.

OH MY GOD!
I love her ^^ There's so many things I could relate to, such as the treatment with being mixed-race and living in the countryside... the unfair treatment at work by boss and colleagues and the way she behaved at work.
Well I never rose my voice like that but I always made sure to say my piece before leaving. The only difference is her childhood love story and the fact that I'm not as gorgeous as she is so I never saw the point of wearing make-up as an armor. Also, from experience, men usually treat you better when you're all dolled-up at least on the surface, so that's the only unrealistic part of this episode.

Anyway, not hooked yet, but curious enough to keep on watching this.

I know squat about genetics but personal story here:

I'm mixed race myself born out of two parents who are both mixed raced as well.

My mum is arabic looking curly hair ( 8 children in her family, 4 sisters and 1 brother all with the same skin color and hair, 2brothers with very dark skin and freezy hair... and both my grandparents were arabic looking) , my father has a dark coffee cream complexion but wavy hair. Got two brothers: 1 has inherited literally all of my maternal grandfather's traits. Older brother looks like my mother on every aspect except the skin color which is my father's.
I'm the one who inherited equally from both. Got my mother's curly hair but my skin is a light coffee cream shade, though people usually say I look like my father.
Only thing that fell right in the middle for all three of us are the lips. My mother's are very thin, my father's are like... REAL thick.
Ours are in-between.

I've had people ask me if I was from Spain, Marocco, Brazil, Mexico and India to name just a few. I've even had some people ask me if I hadn't had some ancestors from East Asia notably Malaysia, the Philippines and even Taïwan (why Taïwan and not China as a whole I wonder since they're the same people but whatever). Every year I tell myself I should do some genetic tests just to see how many races has gone running through my veins because people are always very curious and I can't answer them for the life of me. From what I understand, up to my grandfathers' generation, my mother's ancestors where traders and travelled a lot by ship hence all that mix. I don't know for my father however.
Both my parents have dark eyes though... But I know there was some mixing with some European colonists in the past and some of our far-away relatives have been born with blue eyes on my mother's side.

I also had a classmate years ago whose father was from Senegal. Don't remember which tribe he was from but basically amongst the darkest you could find in that country (and in the world for that matter). Her mother is your typical blond blue eyed Caucasian type.

Here's the crazy thing. She basically has the same complexion as mine, just slightly lighter, and she inherited her father's freezy hair... and size. Girl is over 180cm...
BUT. She's got a TWIN sister. The girl is literally a carbon copy of her mother. Blond, straight hair, blue eyes except taller.

This does led to several issues which she glossed over when we discussed about it years ago.
As a child the treatment you receive as a black kid from the world as a whole is obviously not the same as when you're white. As unfair as it is, you learn to live with it... but it must be much more difficult when your own sister is getting the royal treatment from people outside and you were literally born out of the same womb... But that's another story.

And then there's always the case of being 'invisibly' mixed, best thing in terms of Society's treatment if you fell on the right side of the 'mix'. Got a mixed Caucasian-Vietnamese friend. Unless he tells you he's half-Vietnamese, it's impossible to know especially since he's got a classic Western first and last name ( his father's).

Anyway, bottomline , you can't predict anything when it comes to genetics. Too many factors playing in the mix.

Honestly the whole thing is pretty stupid ( not talking about the argument it led to, just the shitstorm the channel is getting for something mistranslated).
I can't really tell though. I don't have Netflix... I used err... other means to watch the series, so I couldn't check other languages. All I can say is, I have a fairly good grasp of the Korean language and that part was indeed mistranslated. One could argue it was intentional only if that mistranslation is the same for at least most western countries... So people would have to check say the French, Spanish, Italian, Portuguese, German etc. versions to see if the same 'mistake' is there. If so, you could argue it's intentional.
Otherwise, it's just an error from the translator ( I get it, it's a big one though... I'm not fluent but the sentence was pretty clear) and they've probably been fired from their job at present given all the heat Netflix is getting.

Lol That's because they were still in the honeymoon phase ^^ The way Eun Ho is, it's like it's literally second nature to take care of her. Although one could argue he's got a very young daughter and Ji Yun is as clumsy as a kid 😂

Also yeah... The umbrella just 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

They should have added "Fantasy" in the tag list: There's absolutely 0 chance a man like that exist in real life.

Not gonna do a detailed translation but basically its Myeong Ho and his cronies humoring Su Ra regarding Deok Su's situation. Saying how the Haona Quartet have fallen to the bottom of the pit because of Hong Deok Su, how come such a pretty looking dude turned out to be such a frightening murderer blablabla. Myeong Ho adds that he knew Hong Deok Su was weird from the get go and another asks how such an individual managed to get enrolled here... All the while poor Su Ra is staying silent. He's then joined by Jun Hwa who asks where is Eun Ho.

But since he's not getting any reaction, Myong Ho asks one of his friends, how many times somebody must be hit by a cudgel before they DIE. Then he goes on to detail how her life will PAINFULLY with EACH HIT leave her body after about 30 hits... But another friend of his says that Deok Su is such a wimp, she's probably gonna turn belly up after 10.

That's when Eun Ho turns up and kicks the last idiot's chair. When he asks what Eun Ho is doing, Eun Ho answers he's wondering how many times somebody has to be kicked off his chair to die. Then he turns all intimidating and says "Should we... ( test it)?"

They uploaded a scene from episode 7 on youtube ( you need to put your VPN to South Korea to see it):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sILkaMbnTok

1st Answer to this comment is an explanation to what happens in the scene for those of you who don't speak Korean.

Seems it's not gonna turn 100% serious, there's still gonna be some light moment.
Under some videos, I've seen some Korean viewers nicknaming Myeong Ho "조선 말포이" - "Joseon Malfoy".
Gotta say, they've nailed it with that nickname ^^ particularly that scene... It's so on point.
Vengeance is best served cold but GOSH I CAN'T WAIT to see him get humbled 😈😈😈

Oh ^^
So there's romance ^^GREAT. Thanks!

LOL! Answering you here since I saw you answered but I had to open the thread in a private window since I blocked the individual who answered to you ^^ and hence can't see any subsequent answers on my account.
Since this topic appeared I went from 6 blocked users... to 32.
I'd say that's a GREAT haul 🤣🤣🤣 Makes my stay on MDL so much more agreeable😂

It has been mentioned several times, but that part has been mistranslated in English it's actually Izmael bombarding Paltima in Korean.

Lol Vico SDL. I'm actually really 'enjoying' it. I come back from time to time just to check who I should block... such as the individual who just answered to you... I can still answer here because I haven't refreshed this page yet... As you mentionned, they're being needlessly aggressive ^^ Hence, blocked. Don't want to interact with such people on any topic whatsoever:

" i’m getting free bullets just by BEING here (can’t believe i didn’t Even take sides and i’m still getting shot)"

I got that several times on MDL just talking about dramas and actors. Rude and aggressive people are the same regardless of the subject.

I'm an idiot so personally shows I've naively started are probably shows I'm gonna try to finish, that includes a couple of K dramas fully produced by the US unfortunatly... Including Squid Game... WHICH 2nd season I didn't bother to watch for one reason: we already knew there'd be a 3rd.

So right now I'm playing the waiting game: First: Let the 3rd season come out... Then check the 3rd season IS THE LAST SEASON.
Than watch it.

If they trick people with a 4th season, I'm gonna drop it like you did. Right now I know they don't deserve it but I haven't completely thrown the towel.
This being said I'm like you, I'm reluctant... but I still give in. Just. The selection process is complicated and doesn't always work.

Gyeongseong Creature looked interesting... then before I started it, I learned a second season had already been announced as it had already been filmed.
So I thought there would be a conclusion... Started the show soon after the second season finished airing.... and then learned the ending is not really an ending... Now I'm reluctant to start the second season.

This being, I watch most of my K dramas on Viki which is far less expensive than Netflix and Disney + and since Viki doesn't produce any shows, theirs is always fully produced by K Companies. That's not to say sequels aren't available (Taxi Driver is one such example) but compared to Netflix and Disney + it's a tiny minority so at least when I pick up a show I'm not thinking too much regarding if there's gonna be other seasons or not.

If K Dramas turn like US series... Well, there's still Chinese shows, so there's that... Lots of them are pretty awesome in my opinion... but culturally speaking... it's not the same... and sometimes the censorship just drag the story down. so there's that...

I've got no hope for US shows anymore. I don't remember when I stopped watching them but I think it dates back to a series called 'Pushing Daisies'. I LOVED that series, but then scenarists went on strike as it was airing - I haven't followed the latest conflict but the bottom line is Hollywood never learns to respect and value their creators - and the series' ending got completely butchered... I guess it wasn't successful enough for them to save it after the strikes?

And it was so quirky and lovely too...

The problem you're mentioning is a new one that has literally come with streaming platforms. they want instant success and instead of waiting and giving the time to audience to discover the show they just cancel it if it doesn't get a huge success from the get got regardless of the quality of the show.
Hugely successful shows are milked dry, good shows that go unnoticed for a couple of months or even less get canceled.

WHICH IS STUPID. Not every show can be Squid Game or Stranger Things, does it mean all other shows don't deserve a little love?

Maybe at some point they will learn if enough people start being fed up with them and no longer bother to watch these, who knows? But good luck to them to gain back the audience they've repeatedly disappointed.

Are you saying this because you read the info somewhere or are you just hoping that's the case?

It's not really the issue... They could do that with another series and new characters ... These characters have finished their journey, let's put them to rest. I'm gonna quote a post I made on another series to explain what problem I have with that system...

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Said post was made regarding the next series staring Ju Ji Hoon as lead and though it speaks of Netflix and Disney + the core problem is the same:

" The idea is not to sell you 8 episodes but at least 30 or even more over the span of many years so that you keep coming back to their plaforms.

Stories aren't made to 'binge' or 'not binge'. They're supposed to have a beginning, a middle and an end whether you watch it in one go or over the span of several days or weeks is your own preference.

Netflix or Disney + or any other such big American platforms' goal is not to provide you a with good story: it's to provide you with something that makes you come back to their platform.
Quality doesn't matter what matters is your time.

Hence the idea is to sell one good season. If people are hooked, they're gonna milk it as usual and people are gonna stick to it as they always do because they get attached to the show's characters even if season 2 is not as good as the first one and the 3rd season is worse than the second and so on and so forth... hoping desperately for the feelings they got watching the 1st season to come back... Which... is not going to happen since all subsequent seasons are gonna be mediocre: Not bad enough for you to drop it given the time already invested but not good enough to rave about it.

Until there's no viewers left and most people feel like they've been cheated out of their precious time and money and complain endlessly about the fact that the series should have stopped after the first season... AS IT ALWAYS HAPPEN albeit for a few exceptions.

Anyway, anybody is free to spend/waste their time as they wish. I've fled US TV series because of that, now they want to bring it to K-tv... For the moment it's still a minority of shows... but a growing minority alas...

But it's cool I'm out of that shit show. Not trusting any K-dramas exclusively produced by Netflix or Disney + any more. "

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If you skipped that part because the post is long, it's cool. I'm not judging a show that hasn't aired yet, it might turn out to be good HOWEVER I'm sick and tired of American multi seasons shows, sick and tired of movie sequels, movie and series remakes... And it would be okay if that stayed in the US but nope. I guess shareholders have seen that people still give a chance to these shows so now it's invading K-Dramaland.

I don't think I'm the only one who is not seeing this as something positive.

This being said, I'm personally not gonna bother unless people are raving about it AND I know it finishes with some form of closure and not a 'see you next season'. Anybody's free to do what they want. It's just my personal opinion, not judging anyone who wants to give this show a chance.

I'm just very disappointed by what is currently happening. The more they do that, the more I'm turning away from K dramas and moving to Chinese ones.

What's the point exactly? Getting a second season for Signal is normal given how the series ended/not ended but this is just another proof of South Korea being polluted by the US multi-seasons format. I didn't watch Misaeng entirely but I spoiled myself the end so yeah. It was a good ending.

Really just why?

The beauty of K dramas is the fact that each time you get a new story you know is going to end. In the US, you know when a series starts never when it's gonna reach a conclusion. So many creative writers with fresh ideas but nope, gotta recycle the same story over and over again.

But thanks for the article anyway. It just reminded me that I still want to watch that one. I'll be watching the first season and staying away from the second ( which if successful will probably get a third season and so on and so forth).

Really K dramaland dashing to the path of self-destruction ruining everything that made it successful in the first place...

Based on what you said, it's not easy for you as well for sure...
The issue when you combine religion + homophobia is that in the mix, the people who hurt you the most are the same who are doing it for your 'own good'. They think you're bound to wake up one day from your 'deluded episode' and regret bitterly the life you've led and the 'choices' you've made as if these were a choices in the first place. They're basically doing it 'for you' because they 'love you'. They think they don't necessarily hate you but your 'condition' even if said 'condition' is just part of who you are.

Even if they are 'right', the only person you're hurting is yourself at the end of the day but since they can't bear the idea of something horrible happening to you because of your 'condition', they want to 'save you' even if YOU don't realize they're doing it with your sole interest in mind... if we follow the logic of the 'less toxic' members of the group.

Regarding this, something I've repeated a LOT to my own mother:
'The only person I will have to live with until the day I die, is myself so my first and most important duty to myself is to make sure I live according to who I am, in order to be at peace with myself, and not according to how others want me to.'

Hope it gives you a bit of strength. Life's a long journey, and these issues are complicated but honestly I think one of the worst thing you can do to yourself, is pretending to be what you're not, so I salute you for being courageous enough to embrace yourself as you are.