Kannadin

Glad to see I'm not the only one. Dropped for the same reason.

Dropping this one. Lots of people liked it but quoting my previous comment:

"On episode 4 and I still don't know how I feel about this drama. It won't be a 10 for sure and though Bit Na has only punished scumbags so far... I personally take no pleasure or enjoyment watching anybody exert gratuitous violence. Sure they deserved it and sure Bit Na is a demon so I get that this is basically supposed to give the audience some form of a cathartic feeling seeing an evil person be on the receiving end of what they inflicted on others but I find these scenes overly long and painful to watch...

I like Park Shin Hye and Kim Jae Young enough to give this show 2 additional episodes to stick around before I decide whether I drop this or not but for the moment... I'm going to be part of the minority who doesn't understand the hype. I see what I'm supposed to feel (i.e mostly being amused by Bit Na's antics and satisfied when she punishes bad guys) but I feel none of the emotions I'm supposed to have."

Somebody told me it would diminish as time goes by... Episode 6 is the last episode I saw entirely than I checked later episodes a bit... Still overly violent and I also personally cannot stomach seeing people being violent and enjoying it at the same time. In this drama whether criminals or demons, they're all completely twisted. Hence, in spite of the overall consensus that this series is worth watching, I think a warning for people who are sensible to violence is due.

This is not a show for everyone.

I like thrillers and Fantasy like the next person but I believe suggested violence is just as effective as putting all that blood onscreen. It makes me sick and utterly disgusted to such a degree that I've lost all curiosity for the romance that is to come and the mystery regarding real Bit Na's death.

I respect your point of view, but not way in hell am I watching a drama I disliked twice. I'm not into sadomasochism. I've watched everything from start to finish once and it's already too much in my book. Given how many dramas come out all the time, I'd rather give that time to dramas that I consider worth my time than this one. I don't regret watching it... But I truly feel like I've wasted my precious time.

I just can't get past the mother. She deserves no forgiveness. Everyone acts like they forgot the years of mental abuse and the fact that she left Choi to live in poverty never visiting her and her niece until her husband died + forcing Wichai to marry a woman he didn't love and then mentally torturing said woman (who basically was only a tool to pay their debt) until she committed suicide.
And I'm not even talking about all the general slurs she used on a daily basis talking about Chantorn, Anong and Wichai's former wife. That is another form of abuse.

WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE!!!

Final ratings: 2

I know Asian forgiveness is a staple of these family dramas but I just can't forgive nor forget. I love the main couple but Anong forgiving this witch goes beyond my understanding. That's 3 points removed for how IRRITATING, ANNOYING and FRUSTRATING the mother was with her getting an undeserved redemption for crying a little by the end. That might work for some but not for me.
And another 2 points removed for all the misunderstandings. I just hate that trope.

I didn't drop this because of how lovable the main couple was... and all their gorgeous outfits, especially Yaya who was stunningly beautiful from start to finish.... but unfortunately I'm left with feeling mostly frustrated instead of happy by the end of this journey in spite of all the syrup we got in the last episode.

Best traditional lakhorn I've seen this year ( and I dropped MANY)... Still not one I would qualify as a good drama unfortunately.
Given how the ratings is currently at 8, I'm sure I'm not the only one who is deeply dissatisfied with how this drama played out.

Is everyone suffering from amnesia in this drama?

1. End of episode 11 sorta. They get together/not get together but basically they're together. Can't explain more without spoilers.
2. No breakups.
3. See 2/
4. They have some minor arguments but since 2/ nothing worth mentionning.
5. Not really but there's a "fake" love triangle at the beginning that is not a triangle from the outside since the ML doesn't pursue the FL to let the SML get together with her.
6. No
7. Happy ending (I'm personally not entirely satisfied but I'll have to make peace with it).

Basically your questions apply to generic type of romance in most dramas, but this drama has a very refreshing romance in which roles are basically reversed so none of your questions really "hit the mark" in a sense because they just don't apply to this story.
Basically the main couple is golden but expect LOTS and LOTS of misunderstandings and one side character who is just TERRIBLE.
The romance between the lead is actually the only part that I found perfect from beginning to end but the side characters... My God...

Hmm yes and no...
Yes Anong misunderstood that woman's deed... But at the same time, given how the latter had behaved so far, we can't blame Anong for thinking the worse of this woman.

As for having using Lady Mahorn to put pressure on the mother... Let's not forget the MOTHER intended to use Anong through Lady Mahorn in the first place. If this woman had a shred of humanity, she would have confessed without Anong having to resort to indirect blackmail. I honestly don't think this woman can be defended in any aspect. She is just plain selfish, now that the consequences of her disgusting behavior are going to touch not only her sons but also her sorry ass, she's feeling sorry all of a sudden.

Agree 10 00000000000000000000000000000000000000%

I love Anong, but honestly comforting this monster after what she's done? NO WAY. It might be in the past, but a young woman was treated like shit for months, years even and ended dying in a cupboard all of that from sheer cruelty.

After that, instead of learning her lesson, this woman kept on acting like she was above everybody else, treated her eldest son like shit, and called "tramp" every woman who approached her golden son... who also ended up rejecting her which says a lot about what a horrible person she is.

She does deserve an award: WORST MOTHER IN FICTION. Sure she didn't beat her children, but mental torture is just as cruel. BUT OF COURSE, she's gonna get her redemption arc because this is a lakhorn.

MAN I'M SO PISSED.

This drama is best when we only deal with the romance aspect, anything involving Wichai's family is just frustraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaating as hell.

Now planning on giving this series a 7.

This show would have been perfect WITHOUT the mother. I know we need a little bit of drama, but this character makes my blood boil so much it just spoiled the whole experience for me.
And it's too bad because I truly LOVE the main couple. I even think Chantorn and Chut are well matched... even as I'm not a huge fan of Chut's man's child attitude.

JESUS!
Finally finished episode 18. No amount of crying will ever redeem the mother in my book. Also...

I agree about everything except regarding the mother. Soon was innocent. She didn't know how to give the money back. If the mother was a good person, she would have tried to give Soon a way out or contact Wichai so that he found a solution to the problem. Instead, Soon was isolated and helpless which led to her death.
What I wonder though... is WHERE WAS SOON'S FAMILY?

We're told Wichai married her to get rid of his mother's debt but in that case that means Soon's family was wealthy. How come they let Soon be treated this way?

As for Wichai and Anong's discussion, I personally didn't agree. Wichai said "let's face things together" but when you listen to their argument it's clear he's got the "I'm the man, I should be responsible for everything" type of old-fashionned personality. Given the character and the period at which the book that gave birth to that series was written, it's not abnormal he has such a mindset... ( as infuriating as it is) but Anong is a woman who is ahead of her time and I was feeling for her because it was obvious everything he said didn't sit well with her.

She should not hide things but the issue is if she doesn't Wichai is going to take everything on his shoulders without listening to what she would suggest in the first place, so It's obvious from her point of view that it's better to do things her way to protect him and THEN tell him about it since he's got a savior's complex.

Glad I wasn't born during this era.

Well Actually I just remembered... There was "My Stand-In" and "4 Minutes" from Thailand that I actually adored this year in spite of their flaws. Both became favorites. Completely forgot about these two among the sea of dissapointments... But these are BLs. For traditional lakhorn unfortunately... this is the only one I haven't dropped with "Ready Set Love"... And I'm not sure the latter count as a "traditional lakorn"... Plot took a nose dive by the end but the series was short enough that it wasn't too bothersome.

I think it's an Asian thing. You have to respect your elders even if they're a***holes. Btw thanks for the recommendation! 😁

Thanks for the info. Well that's good news ^^

There are literally hundreds of dramas coming out each year. At the end of the day it's down to your personal taste and more importantly the shows you've seen. But I'd never give my personal "drama of the year" award to a drama with such annoying side characters and as mentioned above, I utterly DESPISE misunderstanding tropes especially when that could be avoided if people behaved like adults and TALKED.
Translations for episode 18 are out by the way... I haven't seen the episode yet but I've spoiled myself some key scenes and YES, they managed to make the woman who should not be named look even worse than she already was.

As for my personal favorite romance of the year, my personal vote goes to Lovely Runner. It has its flaws, but overall I enjoyed every single episode I watched without being irritated or annoyed or feeling the drama was too long. For me it was a huge treat with which I was totally enamored from start to finish so there's no contest in my heart for which drama is taking my "drama of the year" award (for now).

Unfortunately so far Thai dramas have been extremely disappointing for me this year... I dropped over 12 Thai shows and the few I finished were meh at best.
This one is actually the best of the lot I've seen. I'm currently giving it a solid 8 in spite of its length and all the things I mentioned above.

This being said, there's 1 month and 10 days left so we'll see.
Also if you read my bio on my page, I watch shows when I want to. I don't bother with following shows whenever they come out or whatever. Too much hassle. So I'm sure I've missed some good shows in the middle.

On episode 4 and I still don't know how I feel about this drama. It won't be a 10 for sure and though Bit Na has only punished scumbags so far... I personally take no pleasure or enjoyment watching anybody exert gratuitous violence. Sure they deserved it and sure Bit Na is a demon so I get that this is basically supposed to give the audience some form of a cathartic feeling seeing an evil person be on the receiving end of what they inflicted on others but I find these scenes overly long and painful to watch...

I like Park Shin Hye and Kim Jae Young enough to give this show 2 additional episodes to stick around before I decide whether I drop this or not but for the moment... I'm going to be part of the minority who doesn't understand the hype. I see what I'm supposed to feel (i.e mostly being amused by Bit Na's antics and satisfied when she punishes bad guys) but I feel none of the emotions I'm supposed to have.

Oh thanks for the information ^^
Well then, both actors are even more amazing then, being able to portray that much chemistry without having interacted much ^^

Finally caught up with episode 17 just in time to finish the series at the same it finishes airing this week.

This won't be my favorite drama of the year... nor even my favorite Thai drama of the year as I think the series is overly long like most lakorns I've tried ( in fact this is one of the few "traditional lakorn" i.e not-bl that I'll manage to finish, most of the time I end up dropping them) and I LOATHE, HATE AND UTTER DESPISE misunderstanding tropes and the beginning of the series is filled to the brim with it...

BUT! Anong and Wichai? Hands down, best couple of the year, all dramas/country whatever included. Girl pursuing the Guy first is one of my least favorite trope but here it just works so well. Couldn't have worked otherwise. Like most of the time, you see the girl pursuing the guy, who rejects her and then he changes his mind, and the girl who was really upfront turns into being shy as soon as the guy ups his game... And I don't mind that...

But there's something really refreshing with Anong's personality. She's sassy and beautiful, she knows what she wants and she goes for it. Only somebody like that could get a man like Wichai because with his personality, if it wasn't for Chut, he would never have dared talk to her. I just love their dynamic, such a well-matched couple 😍😍😍 Also If I didn't know Yaya had a fiancé IRL, I would have thought these two were involved IRL as well. They're so sweet together and their chemistry is I-N-S-A-N-E.

As much as I'm not a huge fan of the Thai system which consists of having actors belong to certain channels and hence always acting together ( albeit for a few freelance actors), I have to admit that one positive thing is that these actors are so used to work together that after a couple of years, they end up having crazy chemistry onscreen. It can only feel real like that when people are used to each other.

Also, it's just so refreshing to see that dynamic from time to time... It's not my favorite ( yeah I prefer the guy to pursue the girl first, but I'm a woman so obviously I prefer the fantasy of being desired than the opposite) but when its done well such as here, it's such a treat!!!

Apart from the misunderstandings, the most annoying thing in this drama is the woman who should not be named... BUT Not kidding I just finished "One and Only" , for those of you who have watched it, you understand when I say that the woman who should not be named is NOTHING compared to what some of the characters have done in this series.
Honestly next to them, she's pretty nice.

Doesn't mean I can tolerate her though.

This being said I'm 10 000% sure she's gonna do a 180 and turn all nice this week because of "thai drama", gotta forgive your parents even if they SUCK and deserve to finish their lives alone.

BUT nothing will ever compare to the trauma of One and Only... So I'll probably vent a bit, but I'm also getting ready to the fact that the woman who should not be named will be forgiven by the end.

EDIT: Forgot to add! Chut, you're a man-child but as we say in French "La vérité sort de la bouche des enfants" - "The truth comes out of children's mouths" . I've started to like you since episode 17. Still a shitty husband but putting that awful woman in her place was oh so satisfying... Wichai should learn from you in that aspect.

Yet another drama on MDL that I've seen many negative comments about and it turned out the show was actually pretty solid when watching it.
Apart from the romance which I'm honestly not a fan of ( insta-love is a turn-off for me, couldn't believe it for a second given how little time our leads spent together), it was an amazing show, very emotional and touching but also pretty grim.

Took me over 2 weeks to watch the 2 last episodes given how depressing things turned out to be.

Anyway, I think I'm going to forfeit watching any shows as they are airing altogether because for the past year, apart from Lovely Runner, my opinion ran contrary to the ones of most people watching it live. Shows that were endlessly praised turned out to be disappointing, and shows people kept on criticizing turned out to be amazing. Better wait at least a couple of weeks to see a more balanced opinion in the comment section.

So here's my 2 cents: Give it a shot and judge for yourself but be sure to be in the mood because this show is DARK as hell. It definitely differs from the usual K drama fare though. Watch it for the story and forget the romance even though it becomes the most important motivation for the ML by the end . The family story though... is chef's kiss, as tragic as it is.

I probably will never rewatch this - too dark for me - and I'm gonna wait a couple of weeks before watching season 2 because I need to "digest" the show but overall it's a solid 9 for me.

So...
Just finished it. I don't understand the bad reviews. This show is like most romance shows: pretty predictable but overall pretty enjoyable and cute.
I've seen way worse shows on MDL getting better ratings.

The only thing I was "mildly annoyed" is how little screentime was given to the second couple. I would have preferred more of them than the last "plot twist" regarding the triple AAA game development I never cared about.

Also general remark...
I've only been watching C dramas for a bit over two years now ( I did watch a couple of shows before but like... as for truly following C dramas, only since 2022) and I just DON'T UNDERSTAND
why literally every single wuxia I've watched have butchered ending, completely rushed to the point of not being understandable... while every single romance I've watched feels like they're always adding many extra unnecessary episodes when the series should have ended 5 to 10 episodes before. WTF China?

This show was pretty cool up to episode 20. The 4 extra episodes are overkill. I wasn't annoyed per say, nor did I feel these episodes sucked either... but they just felt unnecessary.
I was in the mood for something light, so It didn't truly bother me... but usually this is the time of thing that would make me remove 2 to 3 points for "gooey sweetness and unnecessary dragging".

Final ratings 8