There is a song played in Episode 28 that I am trying to identify. It is the one that accompanies the hotel room scene and starts at 12:05. The first few lines are: Somebody, catch me Lord Before I fall too far Save for these memories, Lord I 've given up all you are
I have tried a few online "song identification" apps but have had no luck. Is there anyone here who can help?
His daughter seems to be fine with it? Even suggesting him to go on dates?
I am fully aware that it is fiction, as was "One Spring Night", see my other comment. If the "struggles of a single father" were not integral to the story, then why have they played such a role? For example, his year of parental leave resulting in his firing, and his daughter "accidentally" meeting future stepmother in the bookstore and bonding over reading?
As I said, I realise it is fiction, but why do we have to have it become fantasy? Even "Terius Behind Me" (https://kisskh.at/27703-terius-behind-me) did a better job in its portrayal.
I wonder when does he has time to take care of his daughter? Before he said he will go home eariel to spend time…
This is the main reason why I decided, after episode 3, to not watch until the end. Why didn't the writers follow the lead of "One Spring Night", where introducing the ML's son was a difficult decision, that was handled very well with a lot of empathy.
His daughter seems to be fine with it? Even suggesting him to go on dates?
Which shows that none of the writers and producers have ever experienced being a single parent. I have and had to experience a manager (not mine) regularly shout to the rest of the office "Banker's hours again, Kevin" when I left to pick up my two children from daycare before it closed, and that was in Canada.
saw 4 and it's a bit disappointing that single father part is just a mere character trait in this drama. he's…
To further highlight the annoying discrepancy, here are two quotes from the DramaBeans recap of episodes 5 and 6.
"Ji-yoon merely falls asleep on Eun-ho’s shoulder, and we get a tender moment where he pulls her close and leans his head on hers. ... The next morning, Ji-yoon convinces herself that last night’s incident was just a dream, and when she probes, Eun-ho assures her that he didn’t return to the office from the team dinner."
"In a casual (read: stylishly probing) conversation about Eun-ho’s fatherhood with Mi-ae, Ji-yoon learns that Eun-ho got divorced when Byeol was less than a year old and he has been raising her alone since then. Mi-ae has glowing reviews for daddy Eun-ho, and Ji-yoon agrees that he’s a good father."
saw 4 and it's a bit disappointing that single father part is just a mere character trait in this drama. he's…
I am relieved that other people have found this part of the story disappointing. It is the main part of the reason why I decided to stop watching after episode 3 and will binge watch when it is finished.
The first article, especially, shows how the media will feed the stalker mentality in its efforts to make more money.
Also, it has taken me a little while to decide to ask this question, but here goes. How many people have watched Love Scenery (https://kisskh.at/52895-love-scenery) and were disturbed by the stalker activity of the secondary character: Ding Jia Yun? I know I was.
This all is just BS ..are you willing to believe you can track a person's flights ... Such sensitive information…
Have you not seen this website (FlightRadar24, https://www.flightradar24.com/37.75,-97.82/6) or Jack Sweeney (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jack_Sweeney)? I just checked FlightRadar24 and I can see a huge number of planes in the air over China. Flight tacking information is covered by international treaties and is essential to ensuring safe skies.
iam thinking about watching it but the comments are confusing me. should I watch it or not
Everyone is different. So, my recommendation is to watch the first episode and decide from there. I have watched the first 3 episodes and have decided to wait until the programme has finished its run before re-starting.
I have been one of the people who has posted negative comments about the programme. In part, this has been because I had high hopes for it and they have not been met, so far. And, as someone who has experience as a single parent to young children, I am disappointed with the portrayal, even allowing for the large difference between Korean and Canadian societies.
Hello, there! I don't usually comment on ongoing shows (since everything can change) but I think this deserves…
Thank you for the excellent comments; none of which I necessarily heavily push back on. Perhaps invoking "misogyny" was too harsh and insulting, and I apologise for that. My defence is that I "re-role reversed", and believe that people would have been harsher if it had been a male CEO and a single mother executive assistant.
I have watched Her Private Life, What's Wrong with Secretary Kim, and Business Proposal. I would even add Something about 1% to the list. However, I do not think that any of those shows went to the extreme of CEO excellent at one thing/useless at everything else and Executive Assistant extremely competent at the "everything else".
Like you, I love shows where difficult issues are raised and explored. This is one of the key reasons why I love Korean dramas. Yes, the issues are rooted in Korean/East Asian culture, but they are often found in Western culture.
Last week I wrote that I had started watching the show with high hopes and they had been dashed somewhat. I will watch the show completely once it has finished the run, and I hope that it surprises me in the remaining 8 episodes.
I feel like we’re watching different dramas because I don’t see what you’re seeing, at all. To each their…
We are watching the same programme; it is just that we are viewing it through different life experience lenses.
For context, I separated from (and later divorced) my wife when our children when they were 6 and 4. Although I was a "single" parent for only 50% of the time, I still recall the difficulties of balancing work demands (I was a project manager) and being there for my children. And unlike One Spring Night, the rest of my family were on a different continent and could not help.
Can’t deny that there are scenes that Eun Ho worked until late night as he’s adjusting to his new role, but…
I am not certain if you were referring to me when you wrote "all of sudden he’s a bad father who doesn’t prioritize his kid anymore to some people?" However, I did not say that the character was a bad father. I was questioning the fact that he originally said he would leave at 4:00 but is now working longer hours.
The synopsis above states "He is a single father, who is also good at parenting and housework."
You have a point. I enjoy it though. It's reminding me of many Sandra Bullock movies from the 90ies and 00ies.…
I have to say that "One Spring Night" is one of my favourite dramas. And, yes, the female characters are presented with much more balanced and realistic personalities and situations.
Why take everything to this seriousness? (3) Peoplz is a successful company headed up by two women. It takes a…
Well, my comments seem to have touched a nerve. I am not going to respond to all of your comments but here are a few comments.
-- Note that I wrote "headed up by 2 women". While there is the male manager and the male investor, my point was that the CEO appeared to be capable of doing only one thing: Identifying the right candidate. She could not even remember the names of her staff. -- Yes, she is a "genius" as headhunter; however, as CEO, her job is way more than that singular thing. -- I am intrigued how the trauma of being blamed for the suicide (with the blame continuing) negatively affects everything except her ability to find the right candidate. -- I recognise that many dramas (and not just Korean ones) mess up with the continuity. But, the reason he got fired from his old job was because he took parental leave for a year. Now, within a very short period of time, he is presented as completely job/love interest focus.
Last week, I wrote that my high hopes for this series had been somewhat dashed. I had planned on watching the rest of the episodes once they had all been aired. However, I had some time over the weekend and decided to watch episode 3. After that I am going back to waiting, even if I have more spare time. While people are focusing on how the ML lead looks (e.g., breathaking handsome and I screamed, giggled and smiled like crazy), what seems to have been lost is the misogynistic undertones in this story.
(1) Yoo Eun Ho took a year-long parental leave because his daughter was struggling badly with her mental health. I applaud the writer to putting that in. I recall that part of the agreement to work at Peoplz was that he would leave at 4:00. However, now he is going in early, working well into the night, driving his boss around in circles so that she can "sleep", and even sleeping in the office. All the time, the female, work-from-home struggling writer is tasked with looking after (including feeding) his daughter along with her nephew! The daughter even goes to the bookstore (apparently on her own). So, now we have: "Man works all hours while woman stays at home looking after the children".
(2) Kang Ji Yun is the CEO of a highly successful company (apparently No. 2 in Korea). However, she completely useless at anything aside from finding the right candidate for a position. This uselessness is attributed to the stress/trauma of being blamed for the suicide of the CEO of her previous company. Along comes (super)man to save the day and fix all that is wrong with her life.
(3) Peoplz is a successful company headed up by two women. It takes a man to fix all the problems, regardless of what they might be.
I recognise that some will write "yeah drop it if you don't like it" or a variation of that. However, I am entitled to my opinion and to post it, even if it runs counter to the prevailing gushing, love-in sentiment that many have stated.
ep 2: miranda priestly and her new emily are different here lol... apart from that, FL having a relationship with…
I also find the identical family backgrounds weird. This is what I wrote yesterday:
"I must say here that I cannot fathom why the FL has to have the same family background (daughter of a single parent, father) as the ML? The difference being her father did not keep the promise whereas the ML seems have done so. Is this some sort of father-figure healing romance? Yuck."
I hate to be the contrarian here, but this has gone from a "watch as new episodes drop" to a "wait until all episodes are released". I will admit, I was hoping for something approaching the quality of One Spring Night (which is one of my favourite programmes).
One of the things I really love about Korean dramas is the willingness to highlight societal problems/issues and address them head-on. For example, here we have a single parent stepping back from career progression to spend time to help his daughter; A daughter who is struggling emotionally. Also, we see the issue of workplace bullying by bosses. Although, it is presented as a big negative in the ML's case (his boss is the bully), but is tolerated (ignored) in the FL's case (she is the bully).
However, in the these two episodes, there were many parts of the story that raised red flags for me. Here are some of my observations.
Kang Ji-yoon: - Complete professional and one of the best when it comes to being a headhunter. - Way less than professional, bordering on incompetent, as a CEO. [See bullying comment above.] - Life outside of work is disastrous. - Pops sleeping pills like candy. Apparently, she has been taking them long-term. How does she get them? No reputable physician would merely prescribe powerful drugs without regular check-ups and some sign of progress. - Collapses at work, goes to the Emergency Room, and magically is okay after an I.V. The ER doctor is able to "diagnose" brain overload, along with a detailed list of symptoms. All, apparently, after reading an MRI scan of the patient's brain. [For the record, my daughter is a general surgeon, a good friend is a senior ER physician at a large downtown hospital in Toronto, and another is Head of Cardiology in another Toronto Hospital.] - Her back story seems to be of her being the child of a single parent. Her father promised to stay by her side for ever (huh?), but then runs into a burning apartment building and dies. [The scene shows many other people around but no firefighters, even though the building is completely engulfed in flames.]
Yoo Eun-ho - Highly competent at almost everything. Although, he totally failed with understanding the engineer who left for China. - A single parent, who took a year off to look after his daughter. While Korea allows for 1 year of parental leave (soon to be raise to 18 months), I am not certain that it can be taken when the child is in pre-school/kindergarten. - Has promised to stay by the side of his daughter forever (see above). - Has the ability to leave work at 4:00 in order to pick up his daughter, but also stay in office until late organising the mess that is the CEO's office and work schedule. - Is a great cook, who can whip up a magical breakfast for his daughter and a huge spread for his college friend and wife, all while working and looking after his daughter.
I must say here that I cannot fathom why the FL has to have the same family background (daughter of a single parent, father) as the ML? The difference being her father did not keep the promise whereas the ML seems have done so. Is this some sort of father-figure healing romance? Yuck.
I will not comment on the surrounding cast of characters because it would take too long. What I will say is that the writers and producers seem to have included almost every one of the cliched characters. At this point, I would not be surprised to see the White Truck of Doom make an appearance.
Apologies for the lengthy comment, but it reflects how disappointed I was after watching the two episodes.
Episode 4 got decidedly dark ....... there should be a trigger warning for it .....NGL I still prefer the teenage…
As I posted below, episode 4 and its dark turn saved the show for me; it was unexpected. I hope the show continues to explain what happened and why, while allowing the current day couple to re-build their relationship.
The school is very beautiful. I have now seen their past, and after all that development i dont understand why…
I do not think that we have reached the point where that is explained. So far, we know that the FL had major depression due to 4 different tragic events, and that the ML was in the background trying to protect her.
I am anticipating an explanation of why they "can't stand each other" this weekend, and will not be surprised if the ML's father was involved. Going to Dubai must have been for a reason.
There is a song played in Episode 28 that I am trying to identify. It is the one that accompanies the hotel room scene and starts at 12:05. The first few lines are:
Somebody, catch me Lord
Before I fall too far
Save for these memories, Lord
I 've given up all you are
I have tried a few online "song identification" apps but have had no luck. Is there anyone here who can help?
As I said, I realise it is fiction, but why do we have to have it become fantasy? Even "Terius Behind Me" (https://kisskh.at/27703-terius-behind-me) did a better job in its portrayal.
"Ji-yoon merely falls asleep on Eun-ho’s shoulder, and we get a tender moment where he pulls her close and leans his head on hers. ... The next morning, Ji-yoon convinces herself that last night’s incident was just a dream, and when she probes, Eun-ho assures her that he didn’t return to the office from the team dinner."
"In a casual (read: stylishly probing) conversation about Eun-ho’s fatherhood with Mi-ae, Ji-yoon learns that Eun-ho got divorced when Byeol was less than a year old and he has been raising her alone since then. Mi-ae has glowing reviews for daddy Eun-ho, and Ji-yoon agrees that he’s a good father."
Prince Harry versus newspapers: This is the one that matters: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2l00xkgwnyo
Police investigate reported stalking of Gladiators star: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c23n4r1lv7ko
The first article, especially, shows how the media will feed the stalker mentality in its efforts to make more money.
Also, it has taken me a little while to decide to ask this question, but here goes. How many people have watched Love Scenery (https://kisskh.at/52895-love-scenery) and were disturbed by the stalker activity of the secondary character: Ding Jia Yun? I know I was.
Celebrate a star (actor, footballer, etc.) for what they do, not who they are.
I have been one of the people who has posted negative comments about the programme. In part, this has been because I had high hopes for it and they have not been met, so far. And, as someone who has experience as a single parent to young children, I am disappointed with the portrayal, even allowing for the large difference between Korean and Canadian societies.
I have watched Her Private Life, What's Wrong with Secretary Kim, and Business Proposal. I would even add Something about 1% to the list. However, I do not think that any of those shows went to the extreme of CEO excellent at one thing/useless at everything else and Executive Assistant extremely competent at the "everything else".
Like you, I love shows where difficult issues are raised and explored. This is one of the key reasons why I love Korean dramas. Yes, the issues are rooted in Korean/East Asian culture, but they are often found in Western culture.
Last week I wrote that I had started watching the show with high hopes and they had been dashed somewhat. I will watch the show completely once it has finished the run, and I hope that it surprises me in the remaining 8 episodes.
For context, I separated from (and later divorced) my wife when our children when they were 6 and 4. Although I was a "single" parent for only 50% of the time, I still recall the difficulties of balancing work demands (I was a project manager) and being there for my children. And unlike One Spring Night, the rest of my family were on a different continent and could not help.
The synopsis above states "He is a single father, who is also good at parenting and housework."
-- Note that I wrote "headed up by 2 women". While there is the male manager and the male investor, my point was that the CEO appeared to be capable of doing only one thing: Identifying the right candidate. She could not even remember the names of her staff.
-- Yes, she is a "genius" as headhunter; however, as CEO, her job is way more than that singular thing.
-- I am intrigued how the trauma of being blamed for the suicide (with the blame continuing) negatively affects everything except her ability to find the right candidate.
-- I recognise that many dramas (and not just Korean ones) mess up with the continuity. But, the reason he got fired from his old job was because he took parental leave for a year. Now, within a very short period of time, he is presented as completely job/love interest focus.
(1) Yoo Eun Ho took a year-long parental leave because his daughter was struggling badly with her mental health. I applaud the writer to putting that in. I recall that part of the agreement to work at Peoplz was that he would leave at 4:00. However, now he is going in early, working well into the night, driving his boss around in circles so that she can "sleep", and even sleeping in the office. All the time, the female, work-from-home struggling writer is tasked with looking after (including feeding) his daughter along with her nephew! The daughter even goes to the bookstore (apparently on her own). So, now we have: "Man works all hours while woman stays at home looking after the children".
(2) Kang Ji Yun is the CEO of a highly successful company (apparently No. 2 in Korea). However, she completely useless at anything aside from finding the right candidate for a position. This uselessness is attributed to the stress/trauma of being blamed for the suicide of the CEO of her previous company. Along comes (super)man to save the day and fix all that is wrong with her life.
(3) Peoplz is a successful company headed up by two women. It takes a man to fix all the problems, regardless of what they might be.
I recognise that some will write "yeah drop it if you don't like it" or a variation of that. However, I am entitled to my opinion and to post it, even if it runs counter to the prevailing gushing, love-in sentiment that many have stated.
"I must say here that I cannot fathom why the FL has to have the same family background (daughter of a single parent, father) as the ML? The difference being her father did not keep the promise whereas the ML seems have done so. Is this some sort of father-figure healing romance? Yuck."
One of the things I really love about Korean dramas is the willingness to highlight societal problems/issues and address them head-on. For example, here we have a single parent stepping back from career progression to spend time to help his daughter; A daughter who is struggling emotionally. Also, we see the issue of workplace bullying by bosses. Although, it is presented as a big negative in the ML's case (his boss is the bully), but is tolerated (ignored) in the FL's case (she is the bully).
However, in the these two episodes, there were many parts of the story that raised red flags for me. Here are some of my observations.
Kang Ji-yoon:
- Complete professional and one of the best when it comes to being a headhunter.
- Way less than professional, bordering on incompetent, as a CEO. [See bullying comment above.]
- Life outside of work is disastrous.
- Pops sleeping pills like candy. Apparently, she has been taking them long-term. How does she get them? No reputable physician would merely prescribe powerful drugs without regular check-ups and some sign of progress.
- Collapses at work, goes to the Emergency Room, and magically is okay after an I.V. The ER doctor is able to "diagnose" brain overload, along with a detailed list of symptoms. All, apparently, after reading an MRI scan of the patient's brain.
[For the record, my daughter is a general surgeon, a good friend is a senior ER physician at a large downtown hospital in Toronto, and another is Head of Cardiology in another Toronto Hospital.]
- Her back story seems to be of her being the child of a single parent. Her father promised to stay by her side for ever (huh?), but then runs into a burning apartment building and dies. [The scene shows many other people around but no firefighters, even though the building is completely engulfed in flames.]
Yoo Eun-ho
- Highly competent at almost everything. Although, he totally failed with understanding the engineer who left for China.
- A single parent, who took a year off to look after his daughter. While Korea allows for 1 year of parental leave (soon to be raise to 18 months), I am not certain that it can be taken when the child is in pre-school/kindergarten.
- Has promised to stay by the side of his daughter forever (see above).
- Has the ability to leave work at 4:00 in order to pick up his daughter, but also stay in office until late organising the mess that is the CEO's office and work schedule.
- Is a great cook, who can whip up a magical breakfast for his daughter and a huge spread for his college friend and wife, all while working and looking after his daughter.
I must say here that I cannot fathom why the FL has to have the same family background (daughter of a single parent, father) as the ML? The difference being her father did not keep the promise whereas the ML seems have done so. Is this some sort of father-figure healing romance? Yuck.
I will not comment on the surrounding cast of characters because it would take too long. What I will say is that the writers and producers seem to have included almost every one of the cliched characters. At this point, I would not be surprised to see the White Truck of Doom make an appearance.
Apologies for the lengthy comment, but it reflects how disappointed I was after watching the two episodes.
I am anticipating an explanation of why they "can't stand each other" this weekend, and will not be surprised if the ML's father was involved. Going to Dubai must have been for a reason.