It's like Weak Class Hero. Never ending misery. Power games. Strong vs. weak. Rich vs. poor. Lots of violence. I personally don't see the entertainment value is this. I dislike all the characters, good or bad. In Weak Class Hero at least the main guy was such a terrific actor, that I had to keep watching. So bottom line: It's not bad, if you like such stories. I don't.
They were talking about family, as in relation. I don't remember the exact word, but WQ sees ZY as little brother…
I think you should understand the characters and putting yourself into their shoes, rather than looking at everything from your point of view. That's a big problem regarding how people perceive a story. They aren't willing to really engage into the characters and their story, they just want to see characters who behave like they should regarding THEIR morals values. That's a big issue you see in Hollywood nowadays, where a movie isn't judged by its value, its depth, its good writing, but only praised if it's "politically correct", as if that is the only scale on which you can measure its worth. Back to Unknown: This is based on a rather old Chinese (!!) novel. Sure they can make some changes in the adaption, but certain things have to be the same. Like I myself and many others said: Being gay is nothing to be celebrated. You're either brainwashed or just plain naive to think there is ANY society ANYWHERE who doesn't give a gay person a hard time. I personally know some stories from Canada, although you would think this is one of the most liberal countries in the world. Being gay means you're different. And being different is always difficult. If you go against society's norm, some hardships come with that. So Qian is not really caring about Yuan doing sexual stuff with some other guy, he is only focussing on the impact this will have on his life, how he will find his place in society. You can argue Qian is old-fashioned, but since he has seen the gangster life (and there are also certain societal rules applied), he wants to create a better life for his family, a successful life, which means (for him) succeeding in society. Not once was he grossed out by Yuan coming near to him, embracing him etc. Part of the reason may be, because he indeed enjoys his company, deep down he likes Yuan taking care of him. But at the moment he doesn't want to think and accept that Yuan may be in love with him, because this means PROBLEMS. They are a family after all, he may not be sure about his own feelings at this point, and last but not least, he was ALWAYS worried about Yuan being too fixated on him, so he may think this is just an extension of this fixation and very unhealthy. Since he himself was emotionally and physically abused by his mothers, he may have some extra fear that he raised him wrong. There are so many issues those two have to deal with. So many! It's honestly just naive and annoying to scream "He is homophobic!" Also, I said that before, Qian doesn't seem to be a romantic person, he isn't very interested in relationships/love, so I wonder how they will make this work. But such people exist: Who don't revolve their whole well-being about finding your love and being in a relationship. It's obvious that caring for his siblings and helping them build a successful life is more important to him than having his cute little Disney-romance.
Honestly. I think the scene wiill be heavily edited. 😑 maybe the actors were so professional, but the editors…
I trust the editors, they did a good job until now. This series has such a nice flow to it. The kiss scene at the lake was very nice, and since it took many takes to get there, the end result was great.
I'm a sucker for NC scenes, but I'm very picky. I need two good actors who are both committed, well written characters, aesthetically pleasing kisses etc. I really loved the NC scenes of the 2nd couple in Kiseki Dear To Me. Louis and Nat did a terrific job. Sensual, romantic, beautiful looking boys, beautiful looking kisses. I felt blessed watching those two, haha!
Well,I don't even need a nc scene at this point,this is doing great with anything supporting it,I would love to…
This is Taiwan after all, they do great NC scenes. But for some reason I thought this series won't have them. The trailer looked like this will be a very soft and tender story.
They were talking about family, as in relation. I don't remember the exact word, but WQ sees ZY as little brother…
?? Qian said it's hard to accept homosexuality, especially when it's your own kin, not being aware that Yuan is not his real family, since he always thinks of him as a brother. Yuan took the opportunity to remind him, that they aren't blood-related. He wants Qian to stop seeing him as a brother, since he wants to be his lover. Qian took it the wrong way, and judging from his face, he felt bad, since he didn't want that Yuan felt like an outsider and not part of this family. He didn't want to push him away.
There was a lot going on in this conversation, but it had nothing to do with adopted children not as valued as biological ones.
This series has such a nice flow to it. Every scene is acted perfectly, every scene is important and well-thought-out. The music and the cinematography are also on another level. Very high quality. The writing is also pretty deep. You don't see that often in the BL genre.
Let me just say, Qian is an ass and if I were Yuan I would be so turned off. It’s like he’s trying to torment…
Qian is not a romantic. That Yuan is in love with a guy so much, is suffering so much ... Qian can't really understand it. He wants to prepare him for the worst. He was showing him how to box, because he wants him to be strong. Qian knows that strength (physical and mental) is important to survive. What is he supposed to do? Patting Yuan's head and assuring him that the guy will love him back one day, and they for sure will be happy ever after and dance together under the rainbow? It would be out of character. He tries his best to be supportive and understanding, but he won't sugarcoat the situation.
man the next episode looks heart breaking :( well it is not surprising for Qian to be a bit homophobic ig but…
Qian is not homophobic. No sane person is happy when a relative or friend comes to them and says "I'm gay". It means your life will be more difficult, and you don't wish a difficult life on someone you love. He tries to do the right thing, but his disappointment (in his own parenting) was showing. He didn't push him away. He told Sang Peng, because in his eyes this is a crisis, and he wants to find a way to handle it best. They are all family.
They should upload the episodes earlier. I paid for YouTube Membership for nothing.
There is no exclusive content, though. I'm happy to support them, but I'm disappointed that they don't offer anything. I can't pay for the app, so I was hoping to watch the series on Saturday legally on their YouTube channel, but nope. I still stream the episodes in the background after they air on Youtube to give them views, but well.
I dropped this, because I thought, nothing made any sense, not to mention that it was so slow, that sometimes just nothing happened, like the characters were frozen. I came here today and expected the rating being around 8.2 or so, but look! 8.8? Well, maybe I should try again? Or are the fans of the actors rating this so high?
If they aren't exaggerating, and it's true, that they have intense love scenes, they will break the internet. There is nothing hotter than good love scenes between characters that are well written and actors that can act and a good build-up with lots of tension and heartbreak, which we will get for sure.
So bottom line: It's not bad, if you like such stories. I don't.
This is based on a rather old Chinese (!!) novel. Sure they can make some changes in the adaption, but certain things have to be the same.
Like I myself and many others said: Being gay is nothing to be celebrated. You're either brainwashed or just plain naive to think there is ANY society ANYWHERE who doesn't give a gay person a hard time. I personally know some stories from Canada, although you would think this is one of the most liberal countries in the world. Being gay means you're different. And being different is always difficult. If you go against society's norm, some hardships come with that.
So Qian is not really caring about Yuan doing sexual stuff with some other guy, he is only focussing on the impact this will have on his life, how he will find his place in society. You can argue Qian is old-fashioned, but since he has seen the gangster life (and there are also certain societal rules applied), he wants to create a better life for his family, a successful life, which means (for him) succeeding in society. Not once was he grossed out by Yuan coming near to him, embracing him etc. Part of the reason may be, because he indeed enjoys his company, deep down he likes Yuan taking care of him. But at the moment he doesn't want to think and accept that Yuan may be in love with him, because this means PROBLEMS. They are a family after all, he may not be sure about his own feelings at this point, and last but not least, he was ALWAYS worried about Yuan being too fixated on him, so he may think this is just an extension of this fixation and very unhealthy. Since he himself was emotionally and physically abused by his mothers, he may have some extra fear that he raised him wrong. There are so many issues those two have to deal with. So many!
It's honestly just naive and annoying to scream "He is homophobic!" Also, I said that before, Qian doesn't seem to be a romantic person, he isn't very interested in relationships/love, so I wonder how they will make this work. But such people exist: Who don't revolve their whole well-being about finding your love and being in a relationship. It's obvious that caring for his siblings and helping them build a successful life is more important to him than having his cute little Disney-romance.
I'm a sucker for NC scenes, but I'm very picky. I need two good actors who are both committed, well written characters, aesthetically pleasing kisses etc. I really loved the NC scenes of the 2nd couple in Kiseki Dear To Me. Louis and Nat did a terrific job. Sensual, romantic, beautiful looking boys, beautiful looking kisses. I felt blessed watching those two, haha!
Qian said it's hard to accept homosexuality, especially when it's your own kin, not being aware that Yuan is not his real family, since he always thinks of him as a brother. Yuan took the opportunity to remind him, that they aren't blood-related. He wants Qian to stop seeing him as a brother, since he wants to be his lover. Qian took it the wrong way, and judging from his face, he felt bad, since he didn't want that Yuan felt like an outsider and not part of this family. He didn't want to push him away.
There was a lot going on in this conversation, but it had nothing to do with adopted children not as valued as biological ones.
Very high quality. The writing is also pretty deep. You don't see that often in the BL genre.
It would be out of character. He tries his best to be supportive and understanding, but he won't sugarcoat the situation.
Well, maybe I should try again? Or are the fans of the actors rating this so high?