MadelineMaureen

I haven't been as active in this comment section because of it. Some people are commenting on episodes that I don't think have even technically aired. Like episode 26-27 I was like...nope...peace out.

Anybody else find it weird that they are in school when they should technically be on summer break? Usually summer break in SK is like mid July to mid August. Which they are currently in, in episode 3-4.

I believe we are seeing his POV from the "original timeline".

Most of the most important dates are clearly noted on screen for the viewer. The ones I included in the discussion are mainly for my own amusement and to keep track of where I am as I'm not binge watching the show.
As am actively watching about 10 North American shows plus 3 or 4 Asian/European shows...plus whatever movie sparks my interest that week I like to have a place to keep track to refer back to later on.

As the character never existed in the original IP and was completely made up for the show...I'm going to go with no.

The longer production time could also have to do with the nature of the show. The back and forth multiple versions of the same scene from different perspectives. Just a few minutes on screen could take a week to film. They are doing lots of day and night shoots outside with very little being on controlled sets in the first 4 episodes. Also looks like there is some location work later in the show as well. So weather could have played a major role.
And as @Yichannvoice said, working around people's schedules could have played a factor. ML was scheduled to do press and publicity for Netflix for Strong Girl as well as the Busan Film Festival in October. Which was in the middle of fliming.
TVing normally has a larger budget for their shows so they are able to take the time during filming and post.

We haven't figured out what triggers the time jumps back to the present. Whether it's a time limit or an external trigger.

Like SO serious, and for WHAT? I was like how are these people doctors. (PhDs)

Do you do better with binge watching shows?

It might be a loop. Or this is just an original timeline POV change. When he is in the hotel the photo is not on the coffee table. So either he gets it out AFTER having opened the door to whomever is ringing the bell or again this is the original timeline flashback.

Made a discussion with important dates. Though most of the people watching this show have watched the episodes multiple times between air dates. I just wanted a central place to put them all without having to scroll for my life.🤣

he NEEDS, future tense, to put her in her place because her other family members can't seem go get it done.

He was in the penthouse of a multistoried hotel when he fell into the water. It would have been like falling on concrete depending on the height. So if he wasn't already dead on impact it would have knocked him unconscious. He would have hand major internal injuries from the fall. It's not the water that killed him it was the blunt force trauma.

No the second time around I noticed this too. Like either he was expecting someone or a "Oh they found me" kind of expression. Cause why is he at a hotel if he lives in Seoul? I don't understand why unless his place was being watched or he was in the middle of moving.

4/5. Fakest tears I've ever seen. Sus as fuck.

9. Seems like an abduction and escape situation. Like she was abducted got free and was run down with the car.

11. Girl, same.

12. Most likely a brain disorder of some kind like dementia or Alzheimer's disease.

13. She keeps hurting her knee because she hasn't really been aware of her legs for 13 years so she kind of forgets she can feel them.

15. I think we'll be getting to see that scene with the police in another episode.

It was all about those emo boys back in the day for a lot of people. Looking back on the idol styles in 08/09 is wild wild.

1. It's still just speculation around the circumstances of his death. I speculate that the CEO continued his argument from the concert at the hotel and possibly snapped.

2. He felt guilt about Im Sol because he wasn't able to save her in time for her to live the way she was before her accident. The things she screamed at him in the hospital were really rough. A lot can happen in 13 years. We have seen those who struggle the most be the ones to reach out to those they see suffering. So it's not unheard of for someone who uplifts others not being able to do it for themselves.

3. "Younger" Im Sol did not remember the last few weeks that "Older" Im Sol was in the past. So she remembers confessing to her crush with her letter and then the next thing she knows he's in front of her asking her out to be his girlfriend. It wasn't until after this that she started to realize that time had passed and she was missing a large chunk of time. People most likely noticed the difference in personality too. As she is now dating Tae Sung he would have mentioned things to her that she doesn't remember doing. Also Sun Jae coming up to her like they know each other. Yeah she's going to think she was possessed.

Essay level comment coming. Sorry in advance. Total understand if you see the length and nope your way out of reading it. But there were a few points that I wanted to expound on.

I don't know if I want it to be a self exist, but I also don't think that it will necessarily be a murder case so much as an accidental death caused by outside forces. Aka manslaughter without intent.
There is a the possibility that there was a heated argument that was continued from the concert venue with one or more parties. He might have gone back out to get some air or distance from the person he was talking with and if he was ignoring them and not explaining why he wants to retire again he might have been shoved/pushed. The person might not have meant to kill him or they might have seen an opportunity to save their own ass by framing his death as a self exit.

I have money on the CEO of the company being the one to cause his death. He has the most to lose if Sun Jae quits. The band members could lose some things too, but we've seen how bands continue on making music even when members leave. C.N. Blue, Day6, FT Island etc.
It's not exactly clear, but it seems like Sun Jae became the breakout star of the group as other members fans blame HIM for their lack of concerts and promotions because of his acting schedule. If he was the "cash cow" of the group only the CEO would feel pressure to keep him working.
His bestie and the leader of the group only seemed mad that Sun Jae wasn't communicating with him about wanting to leave, not that he was actually leaving the group. His anger seemed more so that he was being pushed away by Sun Jae emotionally. I'm really hoping that we are able to see more into this dynamic in the original timeline to see how they got to this point in their friendship.

We are already seeing the ground work for Sun Jae's mental health struggles even before the music industry gets involved. He is feeling pressure from his father to succeed and provide not only financially, but to provide honor to the family. For those who don't know Olympic Medalists in South Korea don't just get sponsorships. They get grants/prize money from the government as well exemptions from military service if they are a male athlete.
He takes on burdens that are not his own to carry, and keeps silent until it bursts out of him. Instead of telling his dad that he's so hurt he can't swim anymore, he tells him he doesn't WANT to swim anymore. He wanted to have what little control over his new circumstances that he could by making it a choice rather than a sentence. (that wording is weird but whatever)
The character's dynamic with Eclipse reminds me a lot of how people threated Suzy when Miss A was still an active group. The amount of hate she received from people within the fandom was a level I don't think I've seen since. (Mainly because I tend to stay out of as much fandom drama as humanly possible) It does need to be explored more, but I would hate to think that just at the moment he sees Sol again, and is breaking away from the public eye and pressure that gave him, he would end things. But self exists are always complicated. It is the last stage of depression. Most people who self exist and know they plan to are the happiest they've been in a long time on that day because they feel free.

He likes complicated/complex characters/scripts. He doesn't so much dislike HE he dislikes that they tend to be more boring in their storytelling. So projects that have tragedy are the ones he gravitates towards.
As the tragedy happens within the first script I think that might have been what hooked him. Both main characters go through multiple trials so it's definitely not all fluff of your typical romcom.

I haven't heard of any confirmed cameos, but typically shows like this one will have cameos sprinkled in. We've already had a few within the first episode with Yuri(SNSD), Han Seung Yeon(Radio Host/Idol) and Park Tae Hwan(Olympic Gold Medalist). And with the writer and the cast having close friendships with others I wouldn't be shocked to have few people pop up in the back half.