MadelineMaureen

Ak Hee is so childish and immature compared to Sajo Hyun. Hyun is still unpacking a lot of childhood trauma, and is cautious with his words and actions as he has seen first hand what happens when you step out of line. Ak Hee doesn't care about anyone's feelings but his own 99.9% of the time. That 0.10% is for his KyeRa. It's not that he doesn't want Wol in harms way staying in the palace...he wants her gone because he doesn't want Hyun to have her and not HIM.

Hyun is so thoughtful with his actions toward Yeon Wol as he gets to know her. He feels helpless when it comes to protecting her, but is willing to give up his life to save her. i.e. when he broke the enchantment keeping Ak Hee dormant.
Yeon Wol is willing to die if it means that the people in the kingdom could live a better life. Ak Hee just wants to run away from his responsibilities like an actual child. Not because he feels he can't do a good job like Hyun. No, he just can't be bothered with other people's suffering.

Yeon Wol and Sajo Hyun's goals are the same. They want a more peaceful kingdom for the people and to right the wrongs of the past. Ak Hee is pure chaos and selfishness.

Sometimes letting the world burn to save the one you love is worth it. But when the one you love loves that world, if you become the thing that destroys it, you become the villain in their eyes. And you could loose their love forever.
(For those who have read the Hunger Games I keep thinking about how Ak Hee is like Gale. Ready to bail at any second with the girl one day and send bombs down to kill innocent children and first responders the next, if it means getting to his goal. Katniss could never see him the same way after the bombs dropped. The artistic, thoughtful, calm, and patient Peeta, like Sajo Hyun, was always whoever he needed to be to insure that Katniss survived along with her family, and was ultimately the one who soothed her soul. Even when Peeta's goals didn't align with Katniss' it was never at the expense of others, just his own happiness and self.)

Please excuses the run-on sentences and horrible grammar.

I agree. She both physically and verbally sparred with him the first 2 times meeting each other. She liked his introspective and artists qualities more than the bombastic prideful version of himself. She told him to stop pretending to be someone he isn't.
She's been raised as an assassin, she had to learn to read people quickly. She doesn't trust Ak Hee because he puts on airs and is a lair. Hyun on the other hand is thoughtful with his actions and vulnerable in a way that Yeon Wol connects to on a deeper level...even after just that first conversation.
Hyun, like Wol, (at first meeting) are in professions that go against the gendered stereotypes that the King had forced on the people. That alone would have sparked her interest.

I think that they knew each other growing up. She has only been at the palace for a year. His bodyguard only came to the palace a few months ago. Weeks at the start of the show. I think he must have left the queens orbit prior to the crown princess selection process starting. She spoke about the person she missed having disappeared in this episode some I'm assuming she was talking about the bodyguard. I'm also assuming that either he planned to enter the palace after finding out that she was there or he had always planned to work within the palace guard. Either way I don't think he has ill intent for Sajo Hyun.

I think he was just shutting his eyes, because unlike Hyun, Ak Hee can sometimes look in on what Hyun is doing when in control of the body. He didn't want to see them together, nor did he really want to see Wol(Gyera) leave.

She was in an abusive relationship for over a decade...then she was murdered while battling cancer....then she awoke 10 years in the past & still with her killer....hummmmm...im going to say that a few months to get adjusted isnt too much to ask for.

question for those who are caught up.

the glasses in the desk are THEY putting the red dot on Jung Min, or is there some sort of device on his body? i want to know if the glasses can detonate a device or if it's just to see infrared light.

So theory as I haven't read the source material, and that means i can go full conspiracy theory if i want to....so please indulge me this.

Brother, was found on the last mission that Jeong Jin Man had before visiting his family. He was possibly only in town to set Brother up in the shop below his house.(though i still suspect that someone made his mother sick/killed her to lure him out).
9 days later Jian is now in Jin Man's custody. I feel like Jin Man would have stressed that Jian is Brother's mission...to watch over & let him know when she is in danger. That he is her Brother, like Jin Man is her Uncle. Brother is the one who would have heard her scream out "Jeong Jin Man, Jeong Jin Man, Jeong Jin Man!" the few times that Min Hye spoke of.
Bae Jung Min, never was helping her uncle with anything. He has something to do with his death & used his past with Jian to finish cleaning up the crime scene(or investigate it himself)...the cop was definitely in on it as well. Jung Min was in that town as a child, but he hasnt even been seen other than that one scene in front of the storage room. With how observant Jin Man is I figure he got that kid the hell away from Jian as quickly as possible.

I'm interested to see if anyone else will show up to protect the code Green, & if they would have infiltrated the other side.

Jeong Jin Man was shown faking an injury & fever in ep3 to train Jian survival techniques....so the theory that he is actually still alive could be a possibility. & the weird looks the cop was giving about the autopsy would have been about not wanting cut into his very much alive friend. I personally think this is the least likely possibility, but if he wanted to lure out all his enemies at once this is one way to do it and as a final test for Jian to take over his business. He always stepped in once she took care of the initial threat to her. The lead dog, the 2 other men...so I feel like he would have already popped back up by now.

Glad it's 8 episodes as it's keeping the pacing tight & dynamic. It also means everything shown and said is or will be important later on.

Yu Ra has been mentioned a few times, so I think she might could possible still pop up. But I think that if the webtoon is long they might have cut some plot devices to save for time. I haven't read it so I'm unsure how pivotal of a role that character plays in the overall story.

It's gets better imo, but I also thought the first two episodes were interesting sooo...🤷🏻‍♀️
Ep8 is when they start really moving pieces in the game.

Abuse...emotional abuse, of this nature is very hard to readjust to what is true and what is fabricated. It's a form of brainwashing. The brain needs to be reprogramed before true action can happen. Telling someone they are being abused and to leave the person abusing them NEVER works the first time. THEY have to fully accept that the behavior they are experiencing isn't right and make the choice to leave themselves. Emotional abuse can be slow and brushed off as "just a bad day" or "he didn't really mean it" or "I messed up it's only right that he's upset with me" because the abuser makes the victim think THEY are the ones in the wrong. That it's THEIR(victim) fault that they(abuser) are upset.

I spent 2 hours listening to an employee talk(sob uncontrollably for a while there) about, what was very obviously to me to be, her extremely emotionally abusive relationship only for her to try and rationalize everything he had said and done. She talking about some of the most fucked up behavior I have ever heard as though it was NORMAL... I kept having to repeat that his behavior and words were messed up and not okay. That her feelings DID matter. I had to toe the line of flat out saying "That's abuse. That's manipulation." I finally told her to keep a log of things he says and does that upset her, so that when he "apologizes" and tries to downplay his words and actions she can remember her truth/reality. When a person's entire world revolves around their abuser it is extremely difficult to get out. She broke up with him a few weeks later only to get back together when he threatened to kill himself...a real peach that one...For reference she's been dating this person for less than a year...

With Ji Won she doesn't want someone else to solve her problems, but she is still processing the trauma of being killed by her husband of 10 years and betrayed by who she thought was her best friend of 20+ years. Everything she thought she knew was a lie. She gave them allowances in their behavior prior because SHE would never intentionally be hurtful, so it wouldn't make sense that her best friend "meant" to be mean or thoughtless. Also, statistically speaking 34% of female murder victims in the US alone were perpetrated by an intimate partner or former partner, for men 6%. -bjs.ojp.gov 2021 findings. Making it HIS idea is the safest exit strategy for her.

It's to tell Ji Won subtly that he(Ji Hyuk) was behind the change in proposal. As this is also her birthday he gave her a gift....a move on their chessboard.

AkHee would normally be a character that I would go for. The "I'd burn the world to save you" type, but.....Wol reads more as the "I can sacrifice myself to save the world" type of person. I just need Ak Hee to stop acting like a child whose toy was taken, and act like a damn man/demon. Punishing someone for their feelings is a weak move. This, whatever it turns out to be next episode, is going to blow up in his face. Wol is just as, if not more, observant than Ak Hee.

A pet peeve of mine with characters and humans irl, is when communication is available but one or more parties refuse to participate in said communication. Even an "I don't know how I feel about him or you" from Wol would work if Hyun/AkHee would take two seconds to stop pissing circles around her and let her speak. I hate it when someone tries to tell me what i feel.
Hyun is just as bad as Ak Hee when it comes to communicating, but he just has a harder time hiding his internal feelings/thoughts. (Park Ji Hoon is really nailing the subtle differences between the two personalities. He is playing Ak Hee, acting as Hyun...acting-ception. )
I haven't read the webtoon so I could be way off base, but if this is a case of DID and not a supernatural entity sharing the body of a prince/king....Ak Hee would be the protector. He would be hyper aware of everything around him. A seducer rather than a people pleaser to get what he wants. Playing down his strategic side as to not appear to be the threat he is.

He hasn't really changed much since 2012(17 years old) when i saw him in 'May Queen'. His eyes a bit. Not shape or anything, just the look of experience/knowledge. His body & jaw are more adult male than adolescent, but that giant sweater is hiding that. He is kind of the male version of Jang Na Ra.

that server probably has access to things they want. Also money, that shop has billions of dollars in contracts & assets associated with it. The programs might have fail safes that will default to Jian when Jin Man died. As the manual for handover was super thick I'm going to assume that we will learn more about the business later. & Brother knows a lot more as well. If Jian listens to her uncle & stops arguing with Brother she could get a leg up on the new group coming in.
I'm sorry, but I would have trusted Brother a bit more as her uncle clearly put him there. The second Bae Jung Min tried to shut him up for simply saying when he arrived at the shop....yeah 🚩🚩🚩

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I get it. She's so focused on the wrong things. I dont even think she actually likes him as a person at all, just what he represents(power) for her family.

I also am going to need a moment of them sparring later on as he continues to train her & she gets more confident in the Judo skills. 🫠

My Lovely Liar

The scream I scrumpt 🥰🫠

if they didnt already alter it in the script before PMY signed on im sure it would have been requested to change as she is an advocate for the prevention of how he died in the og version.

not the kiss i wanted in episode 8, but I was still happy that the game is truly beginning now.