MadelineMaureen

Something that's been bugging me since the first episode.

So Zhuang Han Yan is brought into the residence after stating who she is and then passes out. She then wakes in new clothes and has been cleaned up a bit.

So riddle me this....who in the household wouldn't have informed a higher up that her body was covered in deep scars? Like from head to toe covered in old healed scars. Unless the concubine was the one to change her word would have gotten back to someone....right? Am I being dumb? Did I miss something?

In my head canon Xie Yin Lou eventually marries into the Jiang family.

Production redeemed itself in the final episode because only the first 5 minutes deals with the ending of the climax and then the rest of the episode is the checking in on all the survivors of the show and where they are now...epilogue style. Also the dog survived so bonus points. Honestly if it wasn't for the final few episodes overall would have given it a 7, but production was more intentional with their edits and framing in the final quarter of episodes so it became an overall 8.

He has a really good character arch. Because once he realizes what he's done, and why his sister was so strict he does a 180 in attitude. I've liked this actor in other things because he can play the idiot really well, but he also can do serious and "lets get down to business".........to defeat the huuuuunnsss...(i'm sorry i had to) side of a character. I hope you'll like him in the end, because the kid is like a fungus...he grows on you over time. He just needed a reality check.

Her mother and father were a love match. He never remarried nor did he ever have a concubine. They had 3 children. A daughter, son, and then Jiang Si.
Her father is the eldest in his family so they are the "first branch", his younger brother is the "second branch" of the Jiang family.
First branch:
Eldest sister: Married with a young daughter
2nd brother: Jiang Zhang
4th sister: Jiang Si(FL)

The Second branch has a Head Wife(she was supposed to marry the elder brother), and a Concubine(love match). The concubine had 2 daughters. Head wife had a son(we never see him) and a daughter. (This one was a bit tricky for me so I might be wrong on which daughter belonged to who but I'm pretty sure this is right)
1st brother: son of head wife(married and lives in another town)
2nd sister: daughter of head wife(Married to abusive husband)
3rd sister: daughter of concubine
5th sister: daughter of concubine

Both of the concubine's daughters are kind of more or less under the head wife...they are closer to the head wife and aren't as affectionate to their birth mother....the head wife just doesn't want the concubine to have power. Concubine just doesn't want to ruffle anyone's feathers and minds her business.

actually episode 23 or 22 they confirm their love for each other. episode 24-25 is her having to measure up for the royal family and him clearly saying that she is the only one for him.

We see a kiss in episode 6 from a flashback. Episode 9 another flashback kiss as we as present day "drugged kiss"(someone drugs her, he protects her honor, but in her drugged state she gets confused and treats him like her husband...which technically he is). 23 we get our first kiss kiss. Then they are constantly hugging and physically affectionate with one another. Seriously, if he could hug her and still look at her face all the time he would.

This is a very large cast....with many side stories that are actually important later on in the climax of the show. Aka they have to show the dominos being set up before they can start to knock them down properly. He pretty much loves her at first sight and does everything to prove that even if she is who he suspects that it doesn't matter. He is extremely devoted to her and there are a lot of comedic moments of flirting and touching moments once they are together.

Also there are like 3 other "couples" that you will meet and root for.

The only real complaint I had about this show is the editing during the parts that I feel production didn't really focus on. They spent most of their attention on the final confrontations and final climax of the show. If you have the time and you like the actors I don't think it will feel like a waste of time for you. Also the dog survives...you're welcome.

We want our daughter to have a stable life, but she can't do anything she likes or be with anyone she likes. All this money that we made while neglecting our own child...that's our money and we'll spend it all or take it with us when we die so she needs to be sure to marry a wealthy man because our wealth is never going to be her wealth even though we have no other family members to leave it to..................stupid stupid stupid rich people logic.

I'm going to wait until tomorrow so I can speed run through episodes 18-23. No one seems to be able to have a real conversation. She can't seem to realize that her parents were rude as fuck to her boyfriend and friend and just sat there and let them take it. Then instead of telling her parents that they might be able to give her money they never gave her love like his family does. Seriously....these characters are what...early 20s? The parents instead of just supporting her with love they tear down everything that even remotely brings her joy and then go about abandoning her again. They don't treat their daughter like a person they love but an object they can display and sell off.

episode 40. 40minutes into the show. is the horseback flashback kiss

So can't finish the show tonight because i am frustrated. TV app has the subs set to Spanish instead of my set English, tried watching on my laptop....subs out of sync....went over to tencent....cant only watch it on my cellphone....no....I will not pay extra to watch on my smallest device thank you very much.

Anyone know who the fight coordinator/choreographer is on this production? Not only is the fighting dynamic, but also staged/shot well. Haven't seen this level in a minute. Very impressive.

As an American Southern....omg these women talk in the exact same "bless your heart" kind of way that we do when we hate someone....I love it.

Anyone know if the younger version of Yuwen Chang An(Huang Hai Bing) is related to the actor? Because how in the what...I had to rewind and try and figure out if they just have the best deageing tech every. Looked up if the actor has kids but they are way too young. My gasts were flabbered.

Wen Zheng Rong(FL's mother) is seriously such a good actress. I know that it's a different kind of acting than some people are used to. But my goodness does she know how to say one thing with her mouth and body, but be saying something else entirely with her eyes. Like wow...seriously if you are not catching it because of having to read subtitles go back and rewatch her scenes. The ones with her and Chen Du Ling...I swear some of the best double speaking happening. If China ever did a Dune like show she would be perfectly cast as a Bene Gesserit. Also I'm pretty sure she's doing her own voice work so breaks in her voice are sooooo good. Okay back to finishing the episode. I'm already won over by her, because the production has done such a good job showing us how similar her and her daughter(the FL) are to one another.

PS...I totally "girl math" the expense of express on different platforms as the coffee I didn't drink that day....I don't really drink coffee anymore so...✨"girl math" ✨😏

^ this one...and for the ex husband of the Eldest Jiang daughter as he was manipulated in a similar way and took action once he knew that her family was still in danger from Cui Ming Yue. The flashback to his conversation with his ex when she finds out about his death...yeah it got me.

I will do my best. I'll leave this thread open in a tab so I can just refresh and come back to it.

I'm still going back and re-editing my comment...because i'm bored waiting for the express and can find the flashbacks quickly because of the aspect ratio change anytime one happens.

I hope not...that would be so annoying. For all we know the shot wasn't in focus or some other technical issues came up.

So that would have been in one of the flashbacks....I think we did see this in an episode.....hum...hold on checking notes. There was at least one flash back kiss in episode six, but I think that was a beach/river scene.

Looks like I didn't note any other kisses except for episodes, 6(flashback), 9(drugged kiss), 23(2 peck kisses, and first real kiss), 26(secret courtyard kiss), 28(medicine kiss), 32(no notes just that they kiss), 34(married kiss/bed scene)
Episode 9 also has a flashback kiss after the drugged kiss. but again standing

I have a short hand when keeping track of the episodes but sometimes I forget to annotate them in writing. So I might have seen the flashback kiss and not remember to note it after the episode.

They have yet to address this by episode 35. We, as an audience, are still under then impression that Yu Jin mistakenly killed her with an arrow, based off of the shocked surprise on his face when she turns around. (some speculate that someone else shot the arrow that killed her)

Jiang Si never brought it up to him, but because of the amount of times he has saved her in her current life it was very much glossed over.
They haven't extended the flashbacks to include anyone else's POV. Maybe we'll get some in one of the final episodes. But we have no clue what Yu Jin was up to after Jiang Si is forced off the cliff by the Princess Royal.

We can assume that he believes she is dead, but we only see him for a few short moments holding a bow in the throne room and looking shocked. We only heard about Yu Qi being killed from her friends (the Nanwu spy network) They either weren't aware that he was a Prince or they knowingly kept it from her.

We have no knowledge of what was going on with Cui Ming Yue in the alternate future either. Did she in fact marry Yu Jin? We don't know. Did she get killed by Jiang Si in revenge for the death of her brother...we don't know.

As the events that triggered her families deaths were either not known to her at the time, or something that didn't stick out in the moment in her first life we only see her remember in "real time" when past events get closer to repeating. As the character wasn't as calculating prior to her life in Nanwu, she wouldn't have read into some things as much as her present day self would and does.