I completely agree with that. I was actually just going to type that she saw the evidence and yet she was still…
She is acting like the typical FL you normally find in these scenarios. Even when they know the truth, they don't want to accept it because they're too weak to see the shades of gray to black in their own reality.
It is stupid to keep her in the dark, why does she need that level of protection when the victims she claims she wants to protect are at risk and from her family.
It doesn't shine her in a good light, TBH.
And the emperor giving his pledge was silly too because if you want to take down the slavery ring, you're going to have to expose all of the players no matter who they are. The promise he made to his nation is greater than any he could make to a single individual.
I completely agree with that. I was actually just going to type that she saw the evidence and yet she was still…
Exactly. She is too old to be coddling. She is now the mother of the nation. Future mother to the future ruler of that nation. If she can't handle the truth, what can she handle?
If those kids have to face the horrible things her master did to them, then she should have to face the truth. It's not fair to the victims to allow her to have some 100% perfect image and memory of her master or her father and adoptive brother.
They did these things and she's an adult she should hold them accountable. Especially if she wants to be some kind of hero. It starts with facing reality.
Not fair for the emperor to bear the burden of her fantasy and the truth.
Because of her , they ended up staying at the location longer than they should have. The leader left the battle to save her, threw down his weapon and got stabbed, then jumped off the cliff to do what they do in Cdramas. Imma need for these writers to be more creative when he comes to forcing the ML to have alone time together. Does it ALWAYS need to involve a freaking cliff and stranded in the wilderness until they spend time in a cave?
I would have let her get carted off because HIS mission was not to escort the princess or protect her. She had a bodyguard for that. His mission was to get the prisoner to their destination and he failed because he focused on her when she shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Golden opportunity to kill the Lu jerk when he was mocking the Capt. They were just attract by bandits, you could slit his throat and blame it on the bandits. That's one less villain to deal with.
She is so annoying because this man is on a serious mission where mistakes can get him and others killed and she wants to play spoiled brat games. Making his job difficult because now, instead of focusing on his mission and making sure his prisoner doesn't escape and watching out for his min, he has to placate and waste time with this asinine woman. She's doing stuff that could get him killed like claiming he's violating her. Or trying to force him into marriage using the same tactics villains use in other dramas.
I'm actually not rooting for them at the moment, but I hope they make her character more tolerable. All she is right is a distraction to his mission. She's probably going to end up being used against him, make him drop his sword and get stabbed and all she'll be able to do is scream his name.
The advice she gave the kid she should have taken herself and stabbed her dad in the throat with a pen when he came for money after breaking into her house.
Dude who creates the weapons needs to step up his game. They should have had catapults loaded with gunpowder to launch at the enemy when they came marching up with those chariots.
Nothing to do with the age gap.Wu Ji Yan was much older than Wang Xiang Yue in the Double but they had sizzling…
Yes, that's my issue. She's only supposed to be 3 years older than him, but comes off as if she's lived a lifetime already with over a decade of experience. The chemistry just isn't there for me. In The Double, their chemistry was through the roof. The way he looked at her. The way she smiled at him. You felt that love and passion. I don't feel that with this couple.
the female lead is, to me, a bad choice.I have watched her work in the past, her acting, her diction are perfunctory,…
I get your point. She's supposed to only be 3 years older than him, but act like she's 10-15 years old. I'm not really feeling the chemistry between them as much and when it started to creep in, she doused water on the flames.
SML wants to pretend like he's better and more noble, than ML but he isn't. He likes to twist scenarios to make it seem like he has more morals. Like Mingyue, he clearly heard the CP ask her if he were to refuse her , would she still do it and she said yes. But SML still wanted to make it seem like ML was forcing her and using her. But dude, you brought her to him and helped carry out the plot.
And like he told the FL, when he was trying to make himself look better, that "if he was a real assassin, your husband would have let me take you". But he wasn't a real assassin, so he didn't respond in the same way. So, how can he try to use that scenario to make his case. SML needs to find a new obsession.
SML is also very selfish. The stunt he pulled, could ruin her reputation since he was known as an assassin. Also, what kind of chaos will he cause if she never returns? If he thinks the ML is so evil, what level of revenge will ML take against her and him then? Who will suffer in their place?
It's been a year since I've seen this one and it still sticks with me as one of the best Cdramas. The ML is very morally gray, so if you're looking for a Prince Charming, look somewhere else. This one wasn't typical at all and I appreciated the bold direction it took.
He has a way of manipulating ppl to make them think it was their idea, all the while, they're doing his bidding. LOL
This is the reason why I don't care about her and her grandfather getting killed and her being mad about it. She didn't really care about the ppl her Danchi family kidnapped and made unwilling slaves. She didn't advocate to free them or attempt to free them on her own. She just didn't want to see the cruelty for entertainment, but that was it. She didn't really care that they were there. As if those ppl didn't have families that loved and would miss them. Just like she didn't care about any solider who had to risk their lives to come search for her. When they did, did she mourn them? Know. It's all about her.
So, I'm not entirely on her side, either. She needs to take her selfish behind on a field trip to the plains to see all of the families her Danchi ppl destroyed when they took ppl from those villages during their pillaging. She hates the ML for killing her grandfather. Well, what emotion should those families have against her and her Danchi family?
She thinks everything is a game and that's why when things got serious, she couldn't handle it.
Oh boy, this one is a doozy. I'm only on ep. 13 and I can tell it's only going to get ruthless from here. If this guy becomes the next emperor, not one minister will be able to handle him.
I'm also trying to figure out what the hell this teacher Gu was supposed to be teacher her. She can't read, she can't fight, she couldn't swim... what the hell.
I lost count of how many times he tried to tell her the truth. He hated living the lie. It was destroying him.…
I never said that he didn't care about her. In fact I've clearly stated he did. You just want to excuse the fact that he remained dishonest until the truth revealed itself.
You're also having a hard time sticking to your own argument. In your first post. You said "he tried to tell her so many times" and you made it seem like she was the one purposely making it difficult. And even trying to pressure him into having kids. Now you claim he couldn't tell her. That lying to her was some sort of mercy because she could have just been in prison instead of manipulated into being a housewife. Let's not forget that he wanted her to trust him and reveal secrets.
He fell in love. No one is disputing that. I joked that they will have five kids by the time he finally tells her. Considering he punked out telling her and just confessed when asked, means I had a point. And he was even more miserable when she left him. And that's why he fought so hard to earn her trust back.
I enjoyed the series, but I don't care for the dishonesty tropes when it's at the point where it will obviously backfire or when it makes no sense to keep at it because you're doing more harm than good.
I lost count of how many times he tried to tell her the truth. He hated living the lie. It was destroying him.…
By that same token, her reaction to what happened is completely justified. He took advantage of her weakness because she couldn't remember who she was. He wasn't very supportive about the endeavors she wanted to take on like her pottery business. All of her success she achieved on her own in spite of him being a foil. He was hardly home. He lied to her multiple times at first it was heartless because he just wanted to use and manipulate her to get information. But she blew him away by her own personality. She was loving, supportive, determined and innocent in the sense that she had no memory of her former life. She just wanted to be the best wife she could, help him along the way, since she was told that she was his wife and in a very loving relationship by not only him, but his friends and servants. So her hanging on was her trying to fulfill the role they all told her she belonged in. Because she had her doubts. She asked ppl "are we really in a loving relationship" and everyone told her "yes".
So, her not accepting his cop out divorce because he didn't have the courage to face her, even he says that... Even I knew, with her forthright personality, that she wouldn't accept that divorce.
His fear came from falling in love and not knowing how to be honest with her.
My criticism was how long was he planning on holding out? He'd already told his mother and ex fiance that he'd never marry anyone but her. So, now he just needed to tell her. He didn't. She figured it out on her own and that was one of the reasons she was so upset with him.
And I said "it's on him" because he's the one who created the relationship between them in the first place. He's the one pulling the stings. He's the one telling the stories. He's the one who could have ended it by being honest regardless if the outcome.
I see your points, but the bottom line still remains the same. His fear of being rejected, of making her angry, becoming her enemy or losing her entirely came to fruition anyway. Who knows how she may have handled it had he told her the truth that day when she came to confront him about that divorce.
And you mentioned the writer adding conflict. The writer created all of the drama. And they replied on that trope to create conflict. That wasn't the only way to do it.
Really? I've seen way better. It is average at best. The ML gives it flare, but the FL is nothing special. Have…
Yeah, me too. They are perfect for those moments when you're waiting in between more eps to come out in the longer series. Lol. I'm finished one on YouTube called Love & Bid Fairwell and that one was dark. I was like, damn! I LOVE and obsessed lover trope and that one went all out. And it's a short drama. It's funny, because the 2 main leads are in a new drama playing a loving couple.
The “keeping secrets to protect the other” was a very popular trope a few years back. It was mainly used to…
I know and it's just so annoying to me. It screams lack of creativity. Just like the "misunderstanding trope". Where one character believes something is true and instead of asking the other person if it is like an adult, they just treat that person badly or keep away until they are forced to acknowledge the elephant in the room.
It is stupid to keep her in the dark, why does she need that level of protection when the victims she claims she wants to protect are at risk and from her family.
It doesn't shine her in a good light, TBH.
And the emperor giving his pledge was silly too because if you want to take down the slavery ring, you're going to have to expose all of the players no matter who they are. The promise he made to his nation is greater than any he could make to a single individual.
They did these things and she's an adult she should hold them accountable. Especially if she wants to be some kind of hero. It starts with facing reality.
Not fair for the emperor to bear the burden of her fantasy and the truth.
I would have let her get carted off because HIS mission was not to escort the princess or protect her. She had a bodyguard for that. His mission was to get the prisoner to their destination and he failed because he focused on her when she shouldn't have been there in the first place.
Golden opportunity to kill the Lu jerk when he was mocking the Capt. They were just attract by bandits, you could slit his throat and blame it on the bandits. That's one less villain to deal with.
I'm actually not rooting for them at the moment, but I hope they make her character more tolerable. All she is right is a distraction to his mission. She's probably going to end up being used against him, make him drop his sword and get stabbed and all she'll be able to do is scream his name.
And like he told the FL, when he was trying to make himself look better, that "if he was a real assassin, your husband would have let me take you". But he wasn't a real assassin, so he didn't respond in the same way. So, how can he try to use that scenario to make his case. SML needs to find a new obsession.
SML is also very selfish. The stunt he pulled, could ruin her reputation since he was known as an assassin. Also, what kind of chaos will he cause if she never returns? If he thinks the ML is so evil, what level of revenge will ML take against her and him then? Who will suffer in their place?
This is the reason why I don't care about her and her grandfather getting killed and her being mad about it. She didn't really care about the ppl her Danchi family kidnapped and made unwilling slaves. She didn't advocate to free them or attempt to free them on her own. She just didn't want to see the cruelty for entertainment, but that was it. She didn't really care that they were there. As if those ppl didn't have families that loved and would miss them. Just like she didn't care about any solider who had to risk their lives to come search for her. When they did, did she mourn them? Know. It's all about her.
So, I'm not entirely on her side, either. She needs to take her selfish behind on a field trip to the plains to see all of the families her Danchi ppl destroyed when they took ppl from those villages during their pillaging. She hates the ML for killing her grandfather. Well, what emotion should those families have against her and her Danchi family?
She thinks everything is a game and that's why when things got serious, she couldn't handle it.
I'm also trying to figure out what the hell this teacher Gu was supposed to be teacher her. She can't read, she can't fight, she couldn't swim... what the hell.
You're also having a hard time sticking to your own argument. In your first post. You said "he tried to tell her so many times" and you made it seem like she was the one purposely making it difficult. And even trying to pressure him into having kids. Now you claim he couldn't tell her. That lying to her was some sort of mercy because she could have just been in prison instead of manipulated into being a housewife. Let's not forget that he wanted her to trust him and reveal secrets.
He fell in love. No one is disputing that. I joked that they will have five kids by the time he finally tells her. Considering he punked out telling her and just confessed when asked, means I had a point. And he was even more miserable when she left him. And that's why he fought so hard to earn her trust back.
I enjoyed the series, but I don't care for the dishonesty tropes when it's at the point where it will obviously backfire or when it makes no sense to keep at it because you're doing more harm than good.
So, her not accepting his cop out divorce because he didn't have the courage to face her, even he says that... Even I knew, with her forthright personality, that she wouldn't accept that divorce.
His fear came from falling in love and not knowing how to be honest with her.
My criticism was how long was he planning on holding out? He'd already told his mother and ex fiance that he'd never marry anyone but her. So, now he just needed to tell her. He didn't. She figured it out on her own and that was one of the reasons she was so upset with him.
And I said "it's on him" because he's the one who created the relationship between them in the first place. He's the one pulling the stings. He's the one telling the stories. He's the one who could have ended it by being honest regardless if the outcome.
I see your points, but the bottom line still remains the same. His fear of being rejected, of making her angry, becoming her enemy or losing her entirely came to fruition anyway. Who knows how she may have handled it had he told her the truth that day when she came to confront him about that divorce.
And you mentioned the writer adding conflict. The writer created all of the drama. And they replied on that trope to create conflict. That wasn't the only way to do it.