NickB

Yeah, when she realized that was her advantage, she used it well.

They have been releasing a lot of fun minis. The ones I've enjoyed are this one, of course. Just finished Tower of Whispers, which I loved. The Crush is cool and I'm really enjoying Spring Fever. Now, Fated Hearts has me obsessed. It's shaping up to be one of my favs like Luminosity Behind the Palace.

The chair to the balcony was what I was talking about. But I see you understood my point.

Not mental gymnastics. Hostage situation is a hostage situation. Quite simple really. The prince wants something from them, and he using methods he thinks will make them cave. It would be better for him if he was honest with her instead of allowing himself to be blackmailed. He has a choice to fight back.

But, I'm enjoying this series and look forward to seeing how it will end.

The scenario in drama and actions movies is very common. And in this case, it was used so that the ML could shine. Like I said. They don't show us how she got into that situation. She had been taking on all opponents be them professional assassins to your average maid for 18 episodes. And for like 17 of those episodes, she won every fight without her secret core strength.

So what I like is consistency. There is a reason why we're not shown how she became his hostage. It's because her fighting back won't fit the narrative they need for the ML to shine at that moment. He had sacrificed so much for her and that is his role.

I even laughed when the prince told him he was a Song. Just based off the jade crest. These Blood Debts. He's so worried she'll find out. Like, he sacrificed half of his life to being her back. He was raised with her and they fell in love. But, much like the knife to the throat scenario, now we have the secret scenario where he'd rather be stressed and blackmailed than tell the truth to her and see how she reacts instead of taking the 9th Prince's word for it.

I would have just lied and said "that's not mine". And no matter how hard the Prince would have tried to claim it was, I would have continued to deny it, just so he wouldn't have anything on me. Because honestly, what other real evidence is there? It not like someone else can prove his identity. But that is version of the knife to the throat scenario.

Alright whatever. I'm not about to argue this nonsense over a series that brought somebody back from the dead using witchcraft. Bottom line is, they just wanted her to be helpless so that the ML could save her. No matter how you want to slice it up. It happens in so many dramas. And if you want to be helpless if you're ever in that situation, not even attempt to try anything to save yourself, be my guest.

There are many more examples if that was didn't satisfy you.

To me, it's just not as serious as you're making it out to be. If he can bring her back from the dead and her previous body had some mythical inner core strength, then I can choose to believe she should be able to get out of that scenario, with or without that it because the skill was still there. I mean, she drowned three women with one hand, and two at the same time without that core strength. So, it could be done,. Especially in a time of sword fighting when that was always a possibility.

It's so an overused scenario too. Some movies or shows show the person getting out of those knife to neck holds while others choose to make the person helpless. And some of those ppl didn't even have martial Arts skills.

that's a lot. I don't feel like reading all that. Besides, how the hell did she even allow him to get her into that position anyway when she was demolishing everyone who came at her the whole series? Also, he didn't expect the attack that came, did he? which means his guard was down anyway, because he expected her to be compliant. He expected the ML to just accept defeat.

For the record, this is just one example, so I rest my case: https://www.youtube.com/shorts/4Cmf1P7SRbk

That isn't why I found her to be frustrating sometimes. Being too prideful is a problem. Also, once the ML let her whip him he switched up his whole attitude because he wanted to help her. She was free to move about in "enemy territory" but the main threat for her was coming from her home territory. I honestly don't think she was afraid being there. Not with how freely she chose to move around and without guards.

Her pride lead to hear nearly being killed. But yes, most amnesia tropes I hate because they lose their personality. This one is nice because she kept hers. It also helps because we don't really know what her real personality is. We've gotten glimpses through memories. But we don't really know how deeply she loved the 2ML, but what we do know is enough and that works for me.

I'm supposed to believe this woman has been kicking ass the whole series, is helpless now? Martial arts is designed for defense as well as offense. There are PLENTY of videos demonstrating how to get out of these scenarios by Martial artists online to view. The series "Are You the One" features a scenario where dude is taken hostage, sword to neck, but he fight out of it in episode one.

I thought it was odd when it happened the the ML in the beginning. Like they can take on multiple assassins with swords, but a knife to their throat by one person is the thing that shuts them down. It's game over?

If you like that kind of thing, fine. But don't expect me to enjoy it.

Fair Enough.

She's been kicking ass throughout the whole series. But now she can't stomp a foot, bite a hand, grab jewels and twist, bang the back of her head against his chin?

Those are just basic defense moves regular ppl without martial arts knowledge have done.

I stand by my statement that I hate when powerful women are made to be weaklings unnecessarily.

Did she forget she knew martial arts in ep. 19? I hate when they have badass female martial artists and then have them become damsels in distress as soon as there is a knife to their throat.

Like, so... You just not going to fight back? You don't have counter moves for this scenario?

I hope she's is someone who can be there for him like he was there for her. I'm only on ep 14, but I was suspicious of the best friend anyway. He was introduced with great fan flare and then vanished.

I'm on ep 14 now. But this poor guy, who hasn't betrayed him other than his mom. Hell, even his sister's obsession/infatuation with the prince is a betrayal because he wants her brother dead and I bet she'll still love him even if he kills her brother. She's that desperate for his approval and affection.

So, he really has to know how to judge ppl and even still, he can't fully know who are his enemies. And he has so many because they know he's smart. He has military and intellectual mastery. He's not going to be an emperor they can control or intimidate.

She is so impulsive and stubborn. I really like her character, but she is a little frustrating. The male lead is so cunning and I love that he's 10 steps ahead of his enemies, while trying to help her and himself. This series is shaping up to be one of my favorites. Up there with Luminosity behind the Palace

True. Most series like this start with the FL being spineless and betrayed. I was happy to see that she does have a spine.

Now, she was talking big game to the prince about how she could shed blood in her own way if he dared to push her. But when it came down to her needing to stand up for herself against the emperor, she was helpless and trembling. Just useless. Don't talk the talk if you can't walk the walk.

FL is the kind of woman who would raise a punk for a emperor. She coddles him too much, shields him too much. She has no idea what he will be truly facing once he sits on that throne. The scheming he'll have to be aware of. The manipulation from his ministers. She can't hold him in her bosom forever and she needs to let the uncle teach the boy a thing or two.

Her acting for me isn't the problem. It's her overall character. So typical of these types of dramas. She is stupid, talks big, but has no plan and denies her feelings out of some misguided duty.

Really? I've seen way better. It is average at best. The ML gives it flare, but the FL is nothing special. Have you seen Tower of Whispers and Gemini? Those are really good. Echo of Self, too. All short series.