Noble Lady Lie

I don´t recall all the details, but yes, he was mean.

I´m under the impression after watching Eastasian dramas for almost six years that until today young women who are childish, over-naive, dress like teenagers are attractive to good looking, older men - at least on screen. However it can be said that older men vs very young women/girls even - are a thing all over the world on screen and in real life. Anyways, in these dramas an older male lead gets seriously involved with a younger, girly, naive female lead behaving even younger than she is. Many Chinese actresses look much younger than they are, anyways, at least on screen (make-up, styling, filter, cam-angles, character´s behaviour), and when paired with a (much) older ML- actor the tone is set. It´s not just Cupid´s Kitchen. I also saw a huge age gap between (somewhat childish) FL and (mature) ML in Beauty from the Heart (2021), The Forbidden Flower (2023), Count Your Lucky Star (2020), Goblin (Guardian: the lonely and great God) 2015, to name a few. There are many more, of course. A famous french film after a novel by Marguerite Duras is L´Amant (The Lover), about a teenager, a French schoolgirl and her 30-something Chinese lover played by the gorgeous Tony Leung Kai Fa (aka ´Big Tony´). A new development in C-drama seems to be the ´older woman - younger man´ theme.

Marcelito, `Nothing but Thirty´ is a female oriented, female centered C-drama. Watch it again, xiao xiongdi, with an unjugdmental mindset.

Marcelito, we disagree about what the % of ´being at fault´ is in a C-drama marriage that goes through one of the most difficult situations a couple can go through as a couple, and as individuals, as woman and as man. You think the woman, Xiao Tin, is 90% at fault, and the man, Chen Yu, only a mere 10%. I simply disagree with you. I think it is 50% vs 50% of responsibility for each, Xiao Tin as well as Chen Yu are emotionally immature, in different ways. They are both responsible for the awful (non) communication between them. That´s all. Besides that, we disagree about the concept of ´cheating´. I think that Xiao Tin did not cheat or in other words ´betray´ Chen Yun. To compare, Huan Shan did cheat on (betray, lie to) his wife Gu Jia. The rich playboy Zheng Xian who is with Man Ni is a serial cheater and liar, I mention these other couples to contrapost them to Xiao Tin and Chen Yu to compare different kinds of cheating (a form of lying and betraying). Xiao Tuin may has been ´guilty´ in your view of ´emotional cheating´. I think differently about that too, End of discussion. Happy dramawatching Marcelito.

You can check recaps of C-drama episodes elsewhere on line. E.g.: https://cyn-lynn.blogspot.com/2020/07/nothing-but-thirty-recap-and-review.html

Again, let´s agree to disagree. I am watching the series for the 2nd time now, and I almost finished it (for the 2nd time). You are confusing my comments with those of someone else, or you are misinterpreting. However, it is clear that we have conflicting views in life, resulting in different reflections on characters in this C-drama and their behaviour . You (and some other commenters) are very judgmental, using expressions like `should, shouldn´t have, being at fault, etc.`. I tend to react and reflect on characters from the perspective of the human condition, human imperfections etc. You seem to react and reflect on these characters from a judgmental attitude, rather than seeing how they develop and act from who they are at that moment in this difficult, painful situation. In this series: one husband cheats behind his wife´s back, the second man is a serial cheater with some kind of twisted consent of his main girlfriend, the third man does not cheat, and neither does his wife.

Let´s agree to disagree. Unless one of the partners has a severe personality disorder, a drinking-drugs-problem, marriage issues are usually the responsibility of both partners. Like 50-50. As I see it, there was no guilty person in this marriage, just two imperfect humans in a very painful and sad situation (miscarriage). They both have their shortcomings. She was childlike, he was emotionally closed off. In their marriage there was no mature, open communication. A miscarriage has for a woman an emotional (intense loss), a fysical (pain, still bleedingj<) and a hormonal (moodswings, emtional rollercoster) side. It is way more complex than the emotional, more distant pain the man goes through. He is more of a powerless bystander, and in emotional pain too. These are facts. The feeling of loss of a child is not a match or a game. it is souldeep and real life. There usually is an enormous gap between the female and the male experience. It takes not just love, but emotional maturity, openness, communication to support eachother in the mutual, but different, pain. Sometimes external help is needed to heal. Wether it was wise of her to distract herself with a superficial amourous affair or not, can be discussed. To me it is one of those things that is part of the human condition. She was divorced, so in that sence she was free.

Critique, or not liking something about a drama or its actors, is fine. Discussion is fine too. However, why write down such a toxic comment using rude words, impolite symbols and bad language. On top of it all it is based on untruth.

filters, photoshop, they made his skin very white.

Please cover your spoilers, thank you!

Watching The first Jasmine, I wrongly assumed the actress playingh the sister-in-law is Zhang You. But somehow, Liu Cong Dan and Zhang You look similar enough to be sisters or cousins, at least.

Sometimes vpn helps. I use vpn specifically to watch C- and K-dramas, pretending I´m from another continent or another country or continent. Be sure to get reliable advice on which vpn is the best to install.

You´re welcome. With the C-drama Forbidden Flower the director supposedly intended to leave it up to the viewer, he created three possibilities: HE, Open Ending, SE. So it is actually your choice. There is a C-drama thread on redd-it with discussions about this, with several links in the comments to deleted scenes (censored?). Maybe you want to check it out before or after you watch the series. https://www.reddit.com/r/CDrama/comments/1kftkiz/i_finally_watched_the_forbidden_flower/

Somehow your link has an error of some kind. The film still is on YouTube, channel; Jetsen film, with this link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W7TT47YQiXA

thnx a lot, really wante to see this, the link works, I tried every ´button´ because I can´t read it. Finally one of the buttons worked.

I like the actor who plays the ML, Huang Xuan. Somehow I´ve only seen him in roles where he develops from a seemingly lovely and kind man to a horrible man.

Mon Cherie?

There seems to be a misunderstanding about the ending of The Double. Somehow quite a few watchers are convinced it is a SE, while others are convinced it is a HE. That misunderstanding is because the last scene is filmed in a dreamy atmosphere. Like the intentionally ambiguous (post credits) open ending of the drama Forbidden Flower with Jerry Yan and Xu Ruohan, and several other C-dramas. However, The Double has the same happy ending as the original novel it was based on. Due to some adventures it takes time before ML returns home to the FL, so she waits patiently for his return. He definitely returns home, be it filmed in a dreamy style. The director of The Double even created an extra, short episode to make clear to the public that the CP had a happy ending indeed.

Something strange with the Netflix logo link above, I get a warning, which I usually don´t get with MDL links. However, the Chinese series Pursuit of Jade (逐玉) is available on Netflix anyways in most regions, including the Netherlands - according to AI, @Vuurvliegje. This one should be safe https://www.netflix.com/nl/title/82706180

I didn´t find an e-pub yet, but several translated webnovels (different versions, and where to find them) are discussed on Reddit and MDL.