This is just saying that CJ ENM will be exclusively distributing WB products in Korea. It has nothing to do with what is happening to Asian drama distribution here in the states.
reading the article this is about WB peddling their old products in Korea, not the other way around, or did I…
Yeah, it's just saying that CJ ENM will be exclusively distributing WB products in Korea. It has nothing to do with what is happening to Asian drama distribution here in the states.
Soooooooo I see why you've drawn the conclusion you have, and you've got some of the facts right, but you're overall conclusion is incorrect. The reason Dramafever was shut down doesn't have anything to do with their personal business decisions. AT&T, who owns Warner Brothers (who owns Warner Brothers Digital) who owned Dramafever (therefore AT&T owned Dramafever), announced a year or so ago that they were putting together a major streaming competitor to Netflix. This is an extremely expensive endeavor and one that they most likely did not have the funds for at that time. That meant they were going to have to come up with the money from somewhere, and one of the best ways of doing so is shutting down businesses they already own that aren't financially successful enough to keep alongside their new service and that would only act as competition to said service. As you mention, AT&T also shut down Filmstruck. They also shut down a third site within the last month which was dedicated to horror movies. All three of these sites were financially successful, provided a quality service, and had a dedicated userbase. Shutting them down says to me that AT&T didn't have any issues with each respective site's business decisions. They were simply collateral damage in AT&T's pursuit of the 'almighty Netflix competitor.' We all should expect to start hearing about other niche streaming sites owned by AT&T being shut down over the coming year. (Heads up to all you Crunchyroll fans out there. Start binge watching your favs/to watch list now, cause AT&T just laid off a bunch of people at Otter Media (which AT&T owns) who owns Crunchyroll.)
As heartbreaking as it is to say (as someone who was a volunteer for the site until the day of shutdown and who knows people who worked there), Dramafever's not coming back. It just isn't. AT&T will either put all of the dramas they currently hold licenses to on their new streaming site in some back corner somewhere, or they will just not do anything with them at all. The later feels more likely to me seeing as they cared so little about Dramafever that they didn't even bother giving anyone any sort of warning or heads up before shutting down, yet they gave the other two sites they shut down a warning a month in advance. That says to me that they see classic film and horror movies as financially viable and didn't want to totally anger those sites userbases so as to hopefully brings those users to their new site. But they don't see money in Asian dramas, or they wouldn't have screwed us over like they did.
As far as the email address handle goes, the tech side of Dramafever was actually consolidated into WB digital awhile ago, and those employees have been effectively working for both companies ever since. That's why they still use their Dramafever email addresses and probably will for some time.
I started this drama with a lot of hope and interest. While everyone else was complaining about the plot saying they were tired of these kinds of stories, tired of female leads changing themselves to get the guy, etc., I was looking forward to what the writers did with the trope. I love makeover stories and 'made beautiful by magic' stories, so I wasn't immediately bothered by the drama's premise. I believed there was just as strong a possibility for the drama to have the 'fat girl' get the guy for being exactly who she is as there was for her to only get the guy once she changed herself. (I even have a comment just a few down from this one suggesting that everyone should give the drama a fair shot before deciding it's not any good, because it might have something worthwhile to say about it's overall theme.)
At episode 5, I'm losing hope. That's really early in, and things could change drastically before the end, but my overall experience with Korean dramas is making it hard for me to be optimistic. My problem with the drama as it is right now is not the magical transformation. I'm just not sure if I can trust the writers to use the trope wisely.
A well-written drama wouldn't necessarily be set up any differently from this one. Part of exploring the idea of beauty and what makes someone beautiful often involves letting your character(s) get what they want and find out it's not what they actually need. Lee Seul Bi being granted this magical coffee that makes her look exactly how she wants to isn't automatically avoiding the question of what is beauty and how do we learn to respect and appreciate the uniqueness of our bodies. If done right, it's a tool of exploration and understanding. It's the means by which Lee Seul Bi comes to accept the shape her body is in, not the shape she thinks it should be in.
But do the writers understand this? So far, they haven't given me much reason to believe they do. The drama has made 'pretty Oh Go Eun' very vivacious and fun and interesting, and I really like her. I can totally see why Hyun Woo would fall for her. But while I really like 'fat Lee Seul Bi' just as much and sympathize with her struggle, I'm frustrated by how the drama seems to be sidelining her in a lot of ways and not giving me a reason Why. There's a wide difference in confidence level between both versions of the character, and I don't have a problem with that, because I can understand why she might feel more confident in her 'Oh Go Eun' body. But I need some sort of deeper discussion about why she doesn't have that same confidence in her real body.
If I had faith that the writers were setting things up as they are now in order to tear it all down later, I definitely wouldn't be angry or frustrated. Because there's a really good message here worth sending. The idea that confidence isn't dependent on how we look but rather on how we Perceive ourselves. 'Oh Go Eun' isn't confident because she's 'pretty.' She's confident because she Believes she's pretty.
I would really love to see that kind of story, and maybe that's what the writers have planned. But the way things are going in the story right now, I'm not confident that that's where we're headed. I'm not confident that Lee Seul Bi is going to find that inner confidence required to see yourself as lovable and worthwhile, regardless of how you look or others perceive you. And even if she Does get the guy at the end by being herself, I don't know that it's going to feel at all satisfying. Because yes, the girl he's falling for is Lee Seul Bi, just in a different wrapping and with a little more confidence than normal. But he wasn't interested in her until she changed the wrapping, and I'm not sure I'm going to feel like he deserves her when he strips the fake wrapping away.
Reminds me of one of my favorite gateway dramas, "My Name Is Kim Sam-soon." She wasn't really fat either, but…
What's interesting about Sam Soon is the actress actually gained weight for the role in order to be more realistic. Which I both commend her for her pursuit of acting integrity and am saddened by, because she's such a normal, healthy looking weight the entire drama.
the synopsis can be misleading, or maybe I just filled the gaps for myself the wrong way. Both leads know each…
I think people are drawing way too many conclusions about what the story is about and what the overall message is going to be before giving it a fair shake. So far, I'm enjoying it. The drama doesn't give the impression that you are supposed to dislike the female lead or think she's ugly. On the contrary, I think the writers want you to root for her and hope for her success and happiness. Which, for my part, I do.
I'm seeing a lot of people commenting here and elsewhere that they refuse to watch this, because they hate the plot and how it's 'fat shaming', etc. But guys, it just started. We don't know how it's going to end. The story might surprise you and have something actually kind of nice to say about the female lead rather than tear her down. Yes, some of the characters are mean to her, but some of them are very nice, including the male lead. It's unfortunately just the harsh reality of living in many Asian countries that if you don't fit into a very narrow beauty standard, especially if you are way outside of it, people aren't always nice to you. I'm perfectly okay with an Asian drama being honest about that as long as the Drama itself doesn't treat it's characters that way. And this drama doesn't. So maybe don't give up on the story so fast?
They even change the love interest character, as far as i read the mc's love interest is the most beautiful in…
Actually, it's fairly common for some people to be able to speak multiple languages. It's called being a polyglot. So it's really not an unusual addition to his character. As for the lying thing, that's also just another facet of his character. He has strong moral fiber and believes lying is wrong, so he doesn't do it.
Girl, I feel these feels. Don't set up a romance and then just...leave it hanging at the end. I ain't about that…
Second seasons are rare in Kdrama's. If you count the number of shows that have received a second season in the last five years, I don't think it reaches even ten. Compare that to the number of Kdrama's that have actually been made over the last five years. It's a pretty big difference. With those numbers, I've found it best to assume it won't happen so that I'm pleasantly surprised if it does rather than really disappointed when it doesn't. Also, no offense to the show, because it's good, but I don't know that it's quite good enough to warrant a second season. The only thing that would really work in it's favor is if it has a massive audience following. I haven't seen any evidence of that yet. Of course, I could be totally wrong and there are plans for a second season already. I'm just not getting too excited about that yet.
I am MAD seriously what was that ending ? I didn't get anything, I truly hope they're making an epilogue or a…
Girl, I feel these feels. Don't set up a romance and then just...leave it hanging at the end. I ain't about that life. Unfortunately, I really doubt this will get a second season, even if it is a YouTube drama.
I wish they hadn't left the ending quite how they did. Everything was perfectly laid out. Except for that one, really major piece. I don't expect this to get a second season (although I'd watch the fool out of that), so I'm just left disappointed by what was one of the most important parts of the story for me being left hanging. Of course, I thoroughly loved everything about this drama, so I'm going to be giving it a good score in my review, but I'm also salty.
Not surprised by this, honestly. I know people were really worried about where they were going to watch Chinese dramas now that Dramafever is gone, but Chinese entertainment companies are hungry for the western market (at least they certainly seem to be to me), so I knew they'd find a way to get their dramas in front of our eyes. Glad there's a company stepping up to fill in the gap.
I have recently gotten into Korean dramas with Descendants of the Sun, Healer & Goblin being some of my first…
That drama really frustrated me. I loved the premise, the leads had insanely good chemistry with each other, and I wanted them together, but the logic around her powers wasn't properly laid out, and he was a little too controlling for my tastes, so I dropped it 3 or 4 eps before the end.
Am I the only one that had major second female lead syndrome with this one?? I found Adachi a lot more likeable…
I'm literally writing a review right now after I decided not to finish the movie with 30 minutes left, because I truly hate it. The whole back and forth, back and forth, back and forth makes me want to burst my own eardrums, and the way they ruined the really fascinating premise of a Heroine who's not actually the heroine of the story she thinks she is just....uuurrrrgggghhhh.They also ruined pretty much every character, Especially Adachi, and I ended up disliking all of them. (Although the second male lead is pretty much a cardboard cutout of every bad boy character ever, so they couldn't really ruin him cause he was bland to begin with.) Now that I know how it actually ends, I'm really glad I didn't finish it, because this movie is dumb.
I get shutting it down so that time and resources could go into their new streaming platform. Still don't like…
Part of me wonders if this would have happened if the creators hadn’t sold it to someone else to begin with. Maybe we wouldn’t be in this situation now.
I sincerely hope that their new media platform is unsuccessful, because they don't deserve our business.
They’ve now shut down at least three niche streaming sites. And Crunchyroll and Funimation ended their deal with each other just recently. I think Crunchyroll will be shutting down pretty soon as well. Guess that means I need to go marathon some stuff real quick.
As heartbreaking as it is to say (as someone who was a volunteer for the site until the day of shutdown and who knows people who worked there), Dramafever's not coming back. It just isn't. AT&T will either put all of the dramas they currently hold licenses to on their new streaming site in some back corner somewhere, or they will just not do anything with them at all. The later feels more likely to me seeing as they cared so little about Dramafever that they didn't even bother giving anyone any sort of warning or heads up before shutting down, yet they gave the other two sites they shut down a warning a month in advance. That says to me that they see classic film and horror movies as financially viable and didn't want to totally anger those sites userbases so as to hopefully brings those users to their new site. But they don't see money in Asian dramas, or they wouldn't have screwed us over like they did.
As far as the email address handle goes, the tech side of Dramafever was actually consolidated into WB digital awhile ago, and those employees have been effectively working for both companies ever since. That's why they still use their Dramafever email addresses and probably will for some time.
At episode 5, I'm losing hope. That's really early in, and things could change drastically before the end, but my overall experience with Korean dramas is making it hard for me to be optimistic. My problem with the drama as it is right now is not the magical transformation. I'm just not sure if I can trust the writers to use the trope wisely.
A well-written drama wouldn't necessarily be set up any differently from this one. Part of exploring the idea of beauty and what makes someone beautiful often involves letting your character(s) get what they want and find out it's not what they actually need. Lee Seul Bi being granted this magical coffee that makes her look exactly how she wants to isn't automatically avoiding the question of what is beauty and how do we learn to respect and appreciate the uniqueness of our bodies. If done right, it's a tool of exploration and understanding. It's the means by which Lee Seul Bi comes to accept the shape her body is in, not the shape she thinks it should be in.
But do the writers understand this? So far, they haven't given me much reason to believe they do. The drama has made 'pretty Oh Go Eun' very vivacious and fun and interesting, and I really like her. I can totally see why Hyun Woo would fall for her. But while I really like 'fat Lee Seul Bi' just as much and sympathize with her struggle, I'm frustrated by how the drama seems to be sidelining her in a lot of ways and not giving me a reason Why. There's a wide difference in confidence level between both versions of the character, and I don't have a problem with that, because I can understand why she might feel more confident in her 'Oh Go Eun' body. But I need some sort of deeper discussion about why she doesn't have that same confidence in her real body.
If I had faith that the writers were setting things up as they are now in order to tear it all down later, I definitely wouldn't be angry or frustrated. Because there's a really good message here worth sending. The idea that confidence isn't dependent on how we look but rather on how we Perceive ourselves. 'Oh Go Eun' isn't confident because she's 'pretty.' She's confident because she Believes she's pretty.
I would really love to see that kind of story, and maybe that's what the writers have planned. But the way things are going in the story right now, I'm not confident that that's where we're headed. I'm not confident that Lee Seul Bi is going to find that inner confidence required to see yourself as lovable and worthwhile, regardless of how you look or others perceive you. And even if she Does get the guy at the end by being herself, I don't know that it's going to feel at all satisfying. Because yes, the girl he's falling for is Lee Seul Bi, just in a different wrapping and with a little more confidence than normal. But he wasn't interested in her until she changed the wrapping, and I'm not sure I'm going to feel like he deserves her when he strips the fake wrapping away.
Cause Did he get to know her? Did he really?