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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 19, 2019
Title Love and Destiny Spoiler
It wasn't hard for LX to get out since she sealed him from outside. It was much harder for JC to get out because…
It not that hard to get in and out of the abyss once it is opened- JX and his sidekick did when they were trying to kill LingYue and JC rescued LY with no issue as well - LX is a high goddess it shouldn't be hard for her. I vaguely remember LX transformed into a bird and flew out after sealing the gate.
JC was tricked by JX - JX told him that he would have to sacrifice himself to guard the gate and give up his life with LX. JC believed him and put his affairs in order. It was kind of true because he could only push the evil forces back but he couldn't seal the gate. They couldn't harm him either. It was a draw and he was stuck there. YT was the one that told him two people were needed to seal the gate - he wasn't powerful enough on his own - also not complete info but what do u expect from the baddies? It all came together when they realized JX became the Demon King and was already outside the gate and drawing all the evil forces out towards him. Once JX came back to the gate to confront them, they were able to push him into the gate. JC restrained JX while LX sealed the gate.
My guess is it took JC 300 years to finally kill off JX and then it was safe for him to unseal the gate to get out and seal it again. The last part is just my guess it is left open. But the drama gives us many hints on how he got out. JX admits that his desire for LX was his inner demon that made him cross to the dark side. LX tells their daughter that YT was someone who loss her battle with evil. And the Demon King had once also accused JC of opening his heart to evil once he fell for LX. So the key to emerging from the gate has to be something to do with defeating the evil in his heart figuratively or if you want to make it literal then killing JX (evil). LX and JC are both so moral and honorable, they have almost no dark side and are forgiving to their enemies. You could say they have no evil in their hearts so if anyone is able to get out it should be JC and LX. And maybe it is just as simple as once JC can eliminate any evil from his heart he can literally just walk out because the seal only keeps evil in. I like it that they left it to us to think about it.
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PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 19, 2019
Review Love and Destiny Spoiler
Yes it does have a happy ending. And yes well worth watching even though to me TMOPB was still more addictive.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 18, 2019
Agree with you and@JaLD last sentiment. I replied @dramaguzzler below explaining why I think so too.
To @dramaguzzler and re your laid back feel comment.
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Skye-N-Rain Oct 18, 2019
Looks super but I must admit I am quite disturbed to find that my ratings are quite consistently not age appropriate... Maybe I need to lie about my age group to properly align my ratings... LOL - half kidding, this will help a lot.
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Replying to ClockworkHime Oct 18, 2019
Title Love and Destiny Spoiler
What a journey it had been...I was afraid for a moment there that we'll have to wait for a sequel but thank the…
It wasn't hard for LX to get out since she sealed him from outside. It was much harder for JC to get out because he did it from inside. But I think Tien Jun and Zhonghao father (fact check- my memory is faulty) did it before in the past. It takes a very powerful immortal to be able to get back out - that is why JC was the only one who could go instead of his sifu. YT shared with him the final missing info on how to come back out.
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Replying to Azaniah Oct 18, 2019
It's a beautiful drama. Throughly enjoyed it. Finaly found a drama that is as beautiful as TMOPB. These dramas…
Agree with you and@JaLD last sentiment. I replied @dramaguzzler below explaining why I think so too.
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Replying to Jas A Oct 18, 2019
Can anyone recommend where I can find the English subs for all the soundtracks especially the theme song (I think…
Check Viki.
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Replying to dramaguzzler Oct 18, 2019
Title Love and Destiny Spoiler
I didn't gather any similarity from the description. It sounded more like Journey of a flower. But it was promoted…
The same director made JOF, TMOPB and L&D. You can see many common ideas. She loves cross dressing the men for example and makes the supporting characters very androgynous. I was kind of disappointed she didn't put CC in a dress but I guess with his star power he drew the line at the pastel outfits. She was obviously able to bully MC into much more girly outfits including that darn nightgown.

CC+NN are both much better actors than MC+YM. We probably would have gotten a lot steamier scenes in this were it not whitewashed on many levels due to the CP 70th anniversary. CC is a very uninhibited actor that has made some very highly acclaimed movies of a more adult nature. NN bears a strong resemblance to Shu Qi who was in a pretty hot love movie with him and was once linked romantically with him. L&D was supposed to be inspired by Lolita and I think the original intent was to take things up a notch from TMOPB. CC is btw paired up with YM in Brotherhood of the Blades 2.

I love both dramas and I think L&D is better done. I am in a slump but not re-watching it. I binge re-watched TMOPB over and over again - in fact I had to ban myself from it. I think the difference is as much as I love them the leads are just too nice. They don't have a dark side. I disagree that YH was perfect - he was a ruthless cad who sneaked into SS's bed even though he was engaged. And when he went after BQ he just moved in. He totally manipulated BQ and made sure she transferred her loyalty from MY to him before helping her save MY. He is definitely a very ruthless character. And the way he stabbed SJ. Not to mention how bad-ass BQ herself was. I really wanted to see JC/LX hit back hard at their enemies but they didn't give it to me. I think the lack of complication and darkness in their natures made the show very enjoyable but not as addictive for me. It also helps that TMOPB was a book so the story is more substantive and rounded out. I think Pillow Book is an even better story with more morally ambiguous characters but sadly I think the actors will fall far short. Hope I am wrong on that last bit.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 18, 2019
Title Love and Destiny Spoiler
I wouldn't go as far as to call it a love triangle in the sense that LX doesn't ever really fall for JX. She is…
Yeah,really makes me laugh to think that the immortals are just confused about this! Actually this is a very well explored topic in both L&D and TMOPB. To JC, LX and LM are the same - he tells LM in the mortal realm that he doesn't want her to forget him. And LX only becomes a high goddess skipping all the other levels because of her experiences during her mortal trials so LM is part of the LX she grows up into. It was also in TMOPB where to YH, SS and BQ are the same right away but BQ had to try not to be jealous of SS and she was very adamant that YH is not allowed to love anyone else during his mortal trial . FJ and DJ were both impacted by their love in the mortal realm- neither could leave it behind. Generally observe the women seem more confused about their identities in each incarnation. Men are more visual: looks the same means they are the same!!! LMAO!!!
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 17, 2019
Is that confirmed? The novel is interesting but I ain't watching Yang Zi. Please say its not true.
And I respect whatever those different opinions are - it has zero impact the fact that I am still entitled to mine. That's the point which you don't get. Everything is personal to you - I don't attack other fans or non-fans for their different opinions. But if you want to make it personal well then no holds barred. No one voted for you as Drama Nazi but hey if that's what you wanna be, go for it.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 17, 2019
Is that confirmed? The novel is interesting but I ain't watching Yang Zi. Please say its not true.
LOL - so says the person who thought hater is anyone that doesn't agree with their opinion until google taught you otherise!!! That would of course be practically everyone on MDL that dislikes any actor you like.... Say who can't take criticism again? That mirror of yours should be real handy. Better than google.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 17, 2019
Is that confirmed? The novel is interesting but I ain't watching Yang Zi. Please say its not true.
LMAO - zero self awareness!!!
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 17, 2019
Is that confirmed? The novel is interesting but I ain't watching Yang Zi. Please say its not true.
Sigh! You just don't get it. Please enjoy the actors you like and I will enjoy the ones I do. And next time you look in the mirror, behold the real hater.
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Replying to PeachBlossomGoddess Oct 17, 2019
Is that confirmed? The novel is interesting but I ain't watching Yang Zi. Please say its not true.
Not at all, I had no pre-conceived idea of who ought to get the part but having read the book, I was expecting someone very intelligent. And I have only seen Yangzi pull off dumb and insipid roles so I don't have a good impression of her from White Snake and AOL. I think I have gave her enough of a shot to know I have seen enough and I don't need to see a character I like in a book destroyed by an actress I don't. Women supporting each other doesn't mean loving everyone out there just because they are women. You are welcome to have your likes and dislikes, I wouldn't call you a hater just because yours don't agree with mine but your attack on me for simply having an opinion that doesn't agree with yours does come across as pretty hater-like.
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Replying to Jas A Oct 17, 2019
I abandoned this drama at episode 20 something. It’s too dragging
Yeah these slumps really suck... Maybe try Detective L if you like mysteries? Its only 24 episodes, easy to watch, fun and there is some romance - I just reviewed it. Hotel del Luna also seems popular but I sadly I only watch Chinese or English dramas. I am too lazy to read subtitles, esp since I am usually on the treadmill when I watch... I am also much enjoying Musketeers if you have access to BBC.
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Replying to dramaguzzler Oct 17, 2019
Title Love and Destiny Spoiler
I didn't gather any similarity from the description. It sounded more like Journey of a flower. But it was promoted…
Yeah I think so too. Its like they remade JOF in the 3L3W universe and took away all the giant flaws, especially the ML who was extremely cold and cruel there. It is especially obvious with JX character - think Dongfang a manipulative and revenge driven character after father's wrongful death who falls for the FL along the way. I didn't mind though - it comes off like a different production. I watch all of this director's work, even the really terrible stuff. I like it because its so insidiously subversive that it cracks me up.
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Replying to Jas A Oct 16, 2019
I abandoned this drama at episode 20 something. It’s too dragging
I just finished Detective L and I am trying very hard to get into Advisors Alliance but struggling. In a terrible slump sad to say. I watched too many super excellent c-dramas this year everything I have tried lately feels so meh. I picked up Western again am watching the Musketeers which rocks but is not quite the same.... :(
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Ceki Oct 16, 2019
OMG I hope not.She perpetually wears a smug, self satisfied expression that is not consistent with her very mediocre acting skills. She is living proof that some people just owe it all to luck or karma. Instead of being grateful, she evaded taxes and made a disgrace of herself. If she can come back then there is truly no justice in this world.
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Replying to Mimooo Oct 16, 2019
Title Detective L
If anyone is wondering: there hasn’t been any news of a second season at all. I don’t think we’re getting…
Why not? The ratings are high enough...
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Replying to etcetera Oct 15, 2019
Title Love and Destiny Spoiler
i'm at episode 46 and already losing my patience with this drama. up until episode 30 or so i was really enjoying…
He chickened out and doesn't want to face what happens next. Anyway it gets better from 50. I really liked the show but I was also seriously bored to tears from 30-40 as well as around where you are.
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