No matter how many times I watch this I still don’t get why people are concerned with the age gap. This is well…
It is not the age gap that bothers people. It is the ages of Sang Zhi and DJX at the beginning that concerned viewers. Throughout the drama Sang Zhi is technically a child because she is not of marriageable age (20 for females). However, she is considered old enough to have sex with anyone age 14 and up (age of consent). She does not turn into a full adult until the end of the drama. On the other hand, DJX is basically an adult throughout the drama. The only time he is still a child is when he is 19 as is he not of marriageable age (22 for males). So a five year age gap isn't a huge age gap, but it makes a huge difference as to when that age gap occurs.
Hope this helps. You're right five years is not a huge difference, except when she is 14 and he 19 and also when she is 17 and he is 22. This is very intentional by the writer as this is a social commentary on the age of consent law which is 14. The Chinese people are working hard to get it changed, but no luck. If you can't change a law, change the people's mindset about the law.
I’m sorry, the age gap isn’t even THAT big. I seriously don’t understand the issue here 😭A five year…
It is not the age gap that bothers people. It is the ages of Sang Zhi and DJX at the beginning that concerned viewers. Throughout the drama Sang Zhi is technically a child because she is not of marriageable age (20 for females). However, she is considered old enough to have sex with anyone age 14 and up. She does not turn into a full adult until the end of the drama. On the other hand, DJX is basically an adult throughout the drama. The only time he is still a child is when he is 19 as is he not of marriageable age (22 for males). So a five year age gap isn't a huge age gap, but it makes a huge difference as to when that age gap occurs.
Hope this helps. You're right five years is not a huge difference, except when she is 14 and he 19 and also when she is 17 and he is 22.
Yes, but they end it at the beginning of his 10 years left.
No, I made it half way through the first episode and had to drop it due to one of the male lead's bad acting. However, I heard I need to give the drama at least 6 episodes before it turns better. Don't know if I can make it that far with the bad acting. Also, fantasy is not my favorite genre. However, I would like to watch it because of all the references people make to it.
Also, I skipped like two episodes of this drama because they were about war and not much else (episode 38 and 39).
Hope this helps. This drama was one of the few fantasy dramas I could watch mainly because of the chemistry between Zhao Lu Si and Yang Yang.
No wedding 🥲🥲 the ending episodes were a bit rushed. Whole plot circling around their wedding and there…
I love how viewers want HBY and NN to have a traditional wedding when they are by far not a traditional couple. If they had gone ahead with the traditional marriage, everything that NN had worked for would have been lost. For me, their wedding started at about 32 minutes in the last episode with them paying respects to the empress and HBY's family (looking at the night sky). Then proceeded to say their vows to each other with their parents looking on in approval. They are in a military camp, him wearing the very cape he met her in and her wearing the reverse of her cape at the festival. It was a beautiful and fitting wedding. jmo
Yes, but they end it at the beginning of his 10 years left.
If you are looking for romance, for me, Yang Yang and Zhao Lu Si deliver. If you are not really into political dramas, I would stop, as this just keeps getting more political.
This was my first Cdrama and it made me want to watch more, especially those with Zhao Lu Si. Yang Yang is a hit or miss for me. I have dropped many "popular" dramas well after 18 episodes, so its okay. Not the end of world if you don't like it or drop it.
Thank you for this comparison with the novel. I only read eight chapters and knew where it was headed, so stopped.…
Yes, Zhao Lu Si is not just an actor. She is a social activist. Every role she plays speaks out against or for some social aspect of Chinese culture. Even when she plays the "villain" in Untouchable Lovers, her character speaks out about using women as pawns to boost the family status.
This drama is no different. Yes, it talks about bullying, education for women, and the sins of the father not affecting the son, but also about the age of consent. As I wrote before, they are trying to get the age of consent law changed to 16, but are not having any luck.
Using The End of Eternity (TEE) as a guide, the writer managed to produce a social commentary about the age of consent without saying it is right or wrong. TEE is about the use of nuclear energy. If you can't change a law, change the people's mindset about the law. This drama is a cautionary tale and a modern retelling of Little Red Hood. Not every guy is going to be a green forest.
The controversy that Erica talks about is very intentional as the writer wants viewers to think about the pairings of 14/19 and 17/22. While legal, at both ages the child (male or female) is still a child. The height and maturity level are still those of a child. Our definition of childhood has changed from a 100 years ago. It is why she talks in a childish voice when she 17. She continues to talk like a child even at 19 because by law she is not old enough to marry, so in a sense she is still a child even though she is legal in consent and age of majority.
This generation of Chinese will hopefully change the law when they grow up! To change something takes time.
Yes, but they end it at the beginning of his 10 years left.
During a battle Bai Feng is injured to the point of death. Hei Feng gives her most of his life force in order to save her. It is why his hair goes from black to white and she must stop calling him Black Fox. Why the magic number of ten, I don't know, but that seems to be the magic number in all fantasy dramas.
Thank you for this comparison with the novel. I only read eight chapters and knew where it was headed, so stopped.…
Yes, they are products that Zhao Lu Si at one time promoted, but in the drama they have very symbolic meanings. This drama almost didn't air because the first director backed out, and they lost their sponsors. Zhao Lu Si asked the companies that she promoted to sponsor the drama. This was such a well thought out production and script. jmo
Thank you for this comparison with the novel. I only read eight chapters and knew where it was headed, so stopped.…
Yes, the flashbacks complete the story. This imitates Harlan's (the main character in The End of Eternity -TEE), tube that takes him from the past to the present to the future. If you notice when they are on the bike ride, the petals from the trees fall behind and in front of them, but never on them. That's because the love they have for each other at the time is secret from the other. Perception plays a huge role in this drama. This concept is found in TEE. Even the title of the book, The End of Eternity, reflects the main theme of the entire drama. My favorite easter eggs are the creative use of the product placement as they also enhance the themes of the drama.
You really should read The End of Eternity. It will bring this drama to whole new level for you. Happy drama watching. It is definitely not a fluffy, simple love story that everyone is making it out to be.
Well stated.Another thing to mention (or maybe you did and I forgot because I needed to refill my coffee) is that…
Once you do, you will understand the story structure and why they changed the age gap to five years. Many concepts found in the drama are found in the novel. For viewers who think this is just a fluffy, simple love story, they are right, but so much more is going on. Also, have you caught all the "hidden" easter eggs? The trees were just one of them.
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Thank you for this comparison with the novel. I only read eight chapters and knew where it was headed, so stopped. Have you read the novel The End of Eternity by Isaac Asimov? It is the novel shown several times at the beginning of the drama?
Well stated.Another thing to mention (or maybe you did and I forgot because I needed to refill my coffee) is that…
Have you read the novel The End of Eternity? The book is shown several times at the beginning of the drama with him as well as her reading it. This drama is structured and pays homage to this novel.
Well stated.Another thing to mention (or maybe you did and I forgot because I needed to refill my coffee) is that…
Thank you for this comment about the age of consent law in China. I have been trying to explain to people that this is a social commentary on that law. They have been trying to change the age of consent law with no luck.
Thank you, I wondered what they were as well. The Chinese meaning of the tree goes so well with the drama as well. Another of this drama's many "hidden" easter eggs.
While I agree with your analysis of the drama, there is far more going on in it than you are letting on. If Sang…
Yes, we have had many wonderful and not so wonderful conversations and I have enjoyed every one of them. You are the one who helped solidify my thinking in this matter, plus reading the novel, The End of Eternity. Have you read The End of Eternity yet?
Actually, Sang Yan finds out that DJX went to her school at field day. The running gag of Sang Yan being her dad is again brought up. Yes, Sang Yan gave DJX permission to go the school, but Sang Yan had no idea that DJX even went. Remember the two kept it secret even from Sang Yan.
You're right he didn't push it when she was 17 because Sang Yan and Qian Fei shut DJX down in the car when DJX flirts with her as they are going to the mall, so this identity is blocked to him for the time being. However, that doesn't stop him from "courting" her: carrying her book bag, giving her a bicycle ride, giving her a piggy back ride, and getting her a bear from the claw machine.
Yes, DJX is a green flag male. I will agree with you there, but he is a dog for liking someone who is five years his junior when she is 17 (even though it is perfectly legal). Episode 23 when he mentions in the bar that he has liked her since she was 17, all the friends stop and see how Sang Yan responds to this. Sang Yan says it's okay as now she is older. The past is the past. The friends continue on with a conversation about Sang Yan. Please don't tell me what DJX said was a joke as DJX learned never to joke about things like this after talking with his female boss.
Again, I ask you to compare how Sang Yan treats her as to how DJX treats her when she is 17. I also ask that you compare common scenes b/n when she is 14 & 17 and then again at 17 & 19. Also, I can't stress enough read The End of Eternity.
Hope this helps. You're right five years is not a huge difference, except when she is 14 and he 19 and also when she is 17 and he is 22. This is very intentional by the writer as this is a social commentary on the age of consent law which is 14. The Chinese people are working hard to get it changed, but no luck. If you can't change a law, change the people's mindset about the law.
Hope this helps. You're right five years is not a huge difference, except when she is 14 and he 19 and also when she is 17 and he is 22.
Also, I skipped like two episodes of this drama because they were about war and not much else (episode 38 and 39).
Hope this helps. This drama was one of the few fantasy dramas I could watch mainly because of the chemistry between Zhao Lu Si and Yang Yang.
Good luck and happy drama watching.
This was my first Cdrama and it made me want to watch more, especially those with Zhao Lu Si. Yang Yang is a hit or miss for me. I have dropped many "popular" dramas well after 18 episodes, so its okay. Not the end of world if you don't like it or drop it.
This drama is no different. Yes, it talks about bullying, education for women, and the sins of the father not affecting the son, but also about the age of consent. As I wrote before, they are trying to get the age of consent law changed to 16, but are not having any luck.
Using The End of Eternity (TEE) as a guide, the writer managed to produce a social commentary about the age of consent without saying it is right or wrong. TEE is about the use of nuclear energy. If you can't change a law, change the people's mindset about the law. This drama is a cautionary tale and a modern retelling of Little Red Hood. Not every guy is going to be a green forest.
The controversy that Erica talks about is very intentional as the writer wants viewers to think about the pairings of 14/19 and 17/22. While legal, at both ages the child (male or female) is still a child. The height and maturity level are still those of a child. Our definition of childhood has changed from a 100 years ago. It is why she talks in a childish voice when she 17. She continues to talk like a child even at 19 because by law she is not old enough to marry, so in a sense she is still a child even though she is legal in consent and age of majority.
This generation of Chinese will hopefully change the law when they grow up! To change something takes time.
Hope this makes sense.
Hope this helps.
You really should read The End of Eternity. It will bring this drama to whole new level for you. Happy drama watching. It is definitely not a fluffy, simple love story that everyone is making it out to be.
Thank you for your insight and discussion.
Actually, Sang Yan finds out that DJX went to her school at field day. The running gag of Sang Yan being her dad is again brought up. Yes, Sang Yan gave DJX permission to go the school, but Sang Yan had no idea that DJX even went. Remember the two kept it secret even from Sang Yan.
You're right he didn't push it when she was 17 because Sang Yan and Qian Fei shut DJX down in the car when DJX flirts with her as they are going to the mall, so this identity is blocked to him for the time being. However, that doesn't stop him from "courting" her: carrying her book bag, giving her a bicycle ride, giving her a piggy back ride, and getting her a bear from the claw machine.
Yes, DJX is a green flag male. I will agree with you there, but he is a dog for liking someone who is five years his junior when she is 17 (even though it is perfectly legal). Episode 23 when he mentions in the bar that he has liked her since she was 17, all the friends stop and see how Sang Yan responds to this. Sang Yan says it's okay as now she is older. The past is the past. The friends continue on with a conversation about Sang Yan. Please don't tell me what DJX said was a joke as DJX learned never to joke about things like this after talking with his female boss.
Again, I ask you to compare how Sang Yan treats her as to how DJX treats her when she is 17. I also ask that you compare common scenes b/n when she is 14 & 17 and then again at 17 & 19. Also, I can't stress enough read The End of Eternity.
Thanks once again for our discussion.