What I do not like is that she has the tendency to mentally torture the ML (ripping the butterfly, taking his…
“ Until so far, the ML has clearly said that he does not like her behavior. I hope he remains adamant about it and only falls in love with her after she shows some improvement. I do not want another drama where the ML straight up copes with any of the erratic behavior and goes with it“ —you hit oil with this statement! I hope so! It better not become a Disney movie where they gloss over everything.
Omg I loved the deer scene!Yup, I also very much have issues with the FL's behavior
“ Omg I loved the deer scene!” —I literally rewind that scene and watched it twice. It was hysterical and unexpected lol
“ Yup, I also very much have issues with the FL's behavior” —haha we can love the show and its characters but also disapprove certain scenes and behaviors of certain characters! :)
You can't force people's feelings. If FL and ML are falling in love, then they should be together. Of course ML…
“ You can't force people's feelings. ” —FL should not force relationships to break-up. If she could wait three years to apply for a job at the store, she can wait longer for his relationship to break-up naturally without her interfering.
You can't force people's feelings. If FL and ML are falling in love, then they should be together. Of course ML…
“ You said FL is doing bad things for girlfriend, but the girlfriend also took FL's first love (and she loved ML before the girlfriend). You can't just talk about one character's point of view.”
—what on earth are you talking about? FL does not get first priority because she’s in love with someone lol
—so what you are saying is that the person who falls in love first gets the person? ML is not a material object.
—ML and FL did not date or were in a relationship.
Highlights of Ep3 •KDY is gold! He is comedic fire in his cameo, funny and endearing. His arc is so sad. •Deer scene, need I say more? •Brother love: Sang Tae saving up for that vehicle. AW •The Addam’s Family/Beauty & the Beast Mansion •Chemistry between the leads •Flawed but like-able characters
Discomforts: •FL is acting like a stalker •FL touching ML body. —however I understand she has a mental health condition, I’m looking forward to seeing her character growth and her mental health symptoms gradually improving although I’m aware her illness is something she will have to deal with her entire life.
That’s very misleading —First half of episode 4 is 4.6Second half of episode 4 is 8.3The average of the two…
I didn’t know the dramas you mentioned above were weekend dramas so forgive me.
But like I stated before, it depends on what the expectations are for tHis drama from the studio executives
The two tvn dramas that preceded its okay not to be okay both did average in ratings between 3-5 percent. Before cloy (outlier) was melting me softly which as you mentioned was poor. And then AC did between 6-7 percent.
So the rating patten is pretty consistent for the time slot.
That’s very misleading —First half of episode 4 is 4.6Second half of episode 4 is 8.3The average of the two…
“ Psycho's ratings were perhaps decent in 2012 for TVN and JTBC, but these channels have been pumping out 10%+ ratings for quite a while. Since Memories of the Alhambra, only Melting Me Softly, Romance Is A Bonus Book and When My Love Blooms have performed worse.
KSH is the nation's darling and it is a big budget drama, it should be able to maintain his ratings and not see it drop so significantly between episode 1 and 2.”
—those are only your conjectures, if we look at even 2020 TVN & JTbc dramas, most of their ratings are pretty average or low this year. There are some outliers but most of them are under 5 percent and a good handful of them are 3ish percent and under. JTBC sweet munchies have been getting .5 or .6 in the past couple episodes.
—a big star and a high budget is not going to help a drama that doesn’t interest people. There’s a myriad of reasons. For example: Subject on mental health may be too dark and taboo for the general public in South Korea. Idk
—we don’t know what is the rating expectation for this drama from the high-up folks. So a success or flop, it depends on the expectations.
That’s very misleading —First half of episode 4 is 4.6Second half of episode 4 is 8.3The average of the two…
“ if we use that same argument is it fair to say that "It is Okay Not To Be Okay" is not a good product as viewership ratings are not climbing above 6% (yet)? Just asking, because I was at the other forum and I saw some fans pissed off at people like me mentioning the ratings... Dropping arguments such as quality does not translate to ratings (this brings back the TKEM-memories). Haha”
—I think it’s okay not to be okay ratings are decent especially since it’s airing on a private channel. —there are people who don’t understand that ratings should be looked differently depending on the type of channel they are airing from. —quality is subjective —if the product is not garnering the revenue/views it should to cover the costs and make a decent profit, then it’s a product that isn’t good enough. Not saying it’s bad, but that it isn’t good enough to satisfy certain expectations. It depends what the expectations are for certain people. —it’s awful people are pissed at you, they need to calm down. It’s just a drama, it’s not as important as a human being.
“ Anyways, you do need to give credit to Backstreet Rookie for its ability to survive the backlash, gain momentum and approaching double-digits ratings against all odds... It is like a Ginkgo tree, it can survive any bomb thrown at it.” —I never argued it was lacking ability trying to make it out alive. It’s still at a precarious stage but yes there’s hope for it. It’s too soon to compare it to a ginkgo tree.
That’s very misleading —First half of episode 4 is 4.6Second half of episode 4 is 8.3The average of the two…
“ substitution good. Variety shows and dramas fight for the same attention of the viewers. A viewer can decide to watch a movie, a variety show, this drama or go out. ” —substitution good is when the product is similar in format. —I’m not disagreeing that variety shows can’t take a share of the viewers. —If a drama is alluring and pleasing to consumers, viewers will flock to see it despite competition, in this case variety shows. —viewers who do not like watching variety shows and prefer watch watching dramas, have only one option, which is this one.
“ but have you ever wondered why there are no Friday-Saturday dramas anymore? TVN used to have them (Misaeng is a famous example), KBS2 as well (Producer is a famous example). Friday is ultra-competitive. There is hardly a competitive, comparative or an absolute advantage. Friday's are bloodbaths.” —it’s all about the product, if people like it, they will see it. If they don’t provide the goods, then audience will dip. —jtbc will return on Fridays/saturdays soon —reality shows are cheaper to produce and can make great returns
—I don’t have the data or do I have access to the mindsets of the executives and strategists of the studios.
Female Lead is right to fight for her own love. You go girl!
“ Female Lead is right to fight for her own love. You go girl!” —please tell me you’re not serious. —you are okay with your lover being taken away from you because love is love?
It's not cheating if they break up before he goes to Saet Byul.And don't tell me it's cheating if he just happens…
“ but frankly I will never understand how it's cheating if you actually come clean to your partner and break it off.If he didn't leave his gf for Saet Byul (which I assume will happen),despite liking her,that would be emotional cheating the way I see it.”
—coming clean does not absolve you. It’s like you had a “physical” affair and then you tell your girlfriend about it. Because you disclose the physical affair, that makes things okay? And that it’s not considered cheating?
—what is SB doing? Is she not responsible for speeding up the demise of their relationship? She is providing opportunities for him to cheat on his girlfriend.
If you were in his girlfriend shoes, and you find out that this girl is doing all of these things to your boyfriend, like getting a job at the store on purpose to get closer to him, how you would feel?
That’s very misleading —First half of episode 4 is 4.6Second half of episode 4 is 8.3The average of the two…
“ So it is not like other channels gave them a walk in the park. They are still competing and surviving. Variety shows can still take away viewership ratings from dramas...”
—I don’t disagree with variety shows taking away ratings. But it’s not in the same scope and playing field. There will always be reality shows/game shows/movies and other things on air. But as a drama it has the comparative advantage of being the “only” drama.
My original post is that you left off important details, because people who read your post without further information will think everything is awesome and great, when it’s not, there’s both good and bad news. That’s why I said it’s misleading.
That’s very misleading —First half of episode 4 is 4.6Second half of episode 4 is 8.3The average of the two…
I agree, but we must look at the context of the time slot. And that it’s on a Friday/Saturday when ratings are normally higher than on a weekday. Also it has no competition on Friday, no other drama is aired.
That’s very misleading —First half of episode 4 is 4.6Second half of episode 4 is 8.3The average of the two…
I know what momentum means lol
You only post the ratings for the second half of the episode, that’s why it’s misleading. It’s important to post the entire data because people will think the rating is 8.3 for the entire episode when it’s not.
there are people here arguing that it’s a fictional drama...so they can forgive FL for trying to steal someone man...so why are they so mad at the girlfriend? She’s also a fictional character.
If you are mad at the girlfriend for her not being a great girlfriend, you should also be mad at FL for getting a job at the store and putting herself in situations where she can steal someone boyfriend. That’s double standards.
FL is doing things that you would hate on a second FL for doing in a different drama lol
It's not cheating if they break up before he goes to Saet Byul.And don't tell me it's cheating if he just happens…
“ And don't tell me it's cheating if he just happens to think of SB or fall in love with her while in a relationship because none of us can control that!” —that’s the definition of emotional cheating.
This show is gaining momentum in terms of viewership ratings. 8.3% today.
That’s very misleading
—First half of episode 4 is 4.6 Second half of episode 4 is 8.3
The average of the two is 6.45
—the negative truth is the rating is not good for the time-slot it is in and it’s a public channel. —the positive truth is that the rating improved from last week.
—you hit oil with this statement! I hope so! It better not become a Disney movie where they gloss over everything.
—I literally rewind that scene and watched it twice. It was hysterical and unexpected lol
“ Yup, I also very much have issues with the FL's behavior”
—haha we can love the show and its characters but also disapprove certain scenes and behaviors of certain characters! :)
—FL should not force relationships to break-up. If she could wait three years to apply for a job at the store, she can wait longer for his relationship to break-up naturally without her interfering.
You can't just talk about one character's point of view.”
—what on earth are you talking about? FL does not get first priority because she’s in love with someone lol
—so what you are saying is that the person who falls in love first gets the person? ML is not a material object.
—ML and FL did not date or were in a relationship.
—ML did not like FL at that time.
•KDY is gold! He is comedic fire in his cameo, funny and endearing. His arc is so sad.
•Deer scene, need I say more?
•Brother love: Sang Tae saving up for that vehicle. AW
•The Addam’s Family/Beauty & the Beast Mansion
•Chemistry between the leads
•Flawed but like-able characters
Discomforts:
•FL is acting like a stalker
•FL touching ML body.
—however I understand she has a mental health condition, I’m looking forward to seeing her character growth and her mental health symptoms gradually improving although I’m aware her illness is something she will have to deal with her entire life.
But like I stated before, it depends on what the expectations are for tHis drama from the studio executives
The two tvn dramas that preceded its okay not to be okay both did average in ratings between 3-5 percent. Before cloy (outlier) was melting me softly which as you mentioned was poor.
And then AC did between 6-7 percent.
So the rating patten is pretty consistent for the time slot.
KSH is the nation's darling and it is a big budget drama, it should be able to maintain his ratings and not see it drop so significantly between episode 1 and 2.”
—those are only your conjectures, if we look at even 2020 TVN & JTbc dramas, most of their ratings are pretty average or low this year. There are some outliers but most of them are under 5 percent and a good handful of them are 3ish percent and under. JTBC sweet munchies have been getting .5 or .6 in the past couple episodes.
—a big star and a high budget is not going to help a drama that doesn’t interest people. There’s a myriad of reasons. For example: Subject on mental health may be too dark and taboo for the general public in South Korea. Idk
—we don’t know what is the rating expectation for this drama from the high-up folks. So a success or flop, it depends on the expectations.
—I think it’s okay not to be okay ratings are decent especially since it’s airing on a private channel.
—there are people who don’t understand that ratings should be looked differently depending on the type of channel they are airing from.
—quality is subjective
—if the product is not garnering the revenue/views it should to cover the costs and make a decent profit, then it’s a product that isn’t good enough. Not saying it’s bad, but that it isn’t good enough to satisfy certain expectations. It depends what the expectations are for certain people.
—it’s awful people are pissed at you, they need to calm down. It’s just a drama, it’s not as important as a human being.
“ Anyways, you do need to give credit to Backstreet Rookie for its ability to survive the backlash, gain momentum and approaching double-digits ratings against all odds... It is like a Ginkgo tree, it can survive any bomb thrown at it.”
—I never argued it was lacking ability trying to make it out alive. It’s still at a precarious stage but yes there’s hope for it. It’s too soon to compare it to a ginkgo tree.
—substitution good is when the product is similar in format.
—I’m not disagreeing that variety shows can’t take a share of the viewers.
—If a drama is alluring and pleasing to consumers, viewers will flock to see it despite competition, in this case variety shows.
—viewers who do not like watching variety shows and prefer watch watching dramas, have only one option, which is this one.
“ but have you ever wondered why there are no Friday-Saturday dramas anymore? TVN used to have them (Misaeng is a famous example), KBS2 as well (Producer is a famous example). Friday is ultra-competitive. There is hardly a competitive, comparative or an absolute advantage. Friday's are bloodbaths.”
—it’s all about the product, if people like it, they will see it. If they don’t provide the goods, then audience will dip.
—jtbc will return on Fridays/saturdays soon
—reality shows are cheaper to produce and can make great returns
—I don’t have the data or do I have access to the mindsets of the executives and strategists of the studios.
—please tell me you’re not serious.
—you are okay with your lover being taken away from you because love is love?
—coming clean does not absolve you. It’s like you had a “physical” affair and then you tell your girlfriend about it. Because you disclose the physical affair, that makes things okay? And that it’s not considered cheating?
—what is SB doing? Is she not responsible for speeding up the demise of their relationship? She is providing opportunities for him to cheat on his girlfriend.
If you were in his girlfriend shoes, and you find out that this girl is doing all of these things to your boyfriend, like getting a job at the store on purpose to get closer to him, how you would feel?
—I personally would be angry and ballistic lol
—I don’t disagree with variety shows taking away ratings. But it’s not in the same scope and playing field. There will always be reality shows/game shows/movies and other things on air. But as a drama it has the comparative advantage of being the “only” drama.
My original post is that you left off important details, because people who read your post without further information will think everything is awesome and great, when it’s not, there’s both good and bad news. That’s why I said it’s misleading.
variety shows and reality shows are not dramas. They are different and people generally do not compare them.
—I did not say momentum was decreasing.
—I did not say the ratings decreased.
—My first post even said that the ratings increased.
My original post is to provide more data and to look at context.
You only post the ratings for the second half of the episode, that’s why it’s misleading. It’s important to post the entire data because people will think the rating is 8.3 for the entire episode when it’s not.
If you are mad at the girlfriend for her not being a great girlfriend, you should also be mad at FL for getting a job at the store and putting herself in situations where she can steal someone boyfriend. That’s double standards.
FL is doing things that you would hate on a second FL for doing in a different drama lol
—that’s the definition of emotional cheating.
—First half of episode 4 is 4.6
Second half of episode 4 is 8.3
The average of the two is 6.45
—the negative truth is the rating is not good for the time-slot it is in and it’s a public channel.
—the positive truth is that the rating improved from last week.