I don’t think that name of the book either…the FL died in the beginning of the book and got reborn to when…
Lol…maybe they will kill the secondary male lead after he break them up that lead to killing all three of them and he feel bad so he decided fix it in the last 5 min of the last episode 😂
Is the novel very different from the drama? I mean they kept the title but they never explained in the drama why…
I don’t think that name of the book either…the FL died in the beginning of the book and got reborn to when she is 13 again. She didn’t get “rebirth” for anyone but maybe for herself. So I don’t know why they give it this English name…if they follow the book, no one get reborn at all by afterthe first episode 🤔. It just become a palace story for rest of the story, where people fight to control the throne (in the book). Well..the drama Chinese title is “The Legend of Jianan”….I think is a better fit then “rebirth for you”, at less it make more sense 🤨
Objectively (As in, regardless of what he does, right or wrong, etc), when stars in C-Ent have had horrible scandals…
I am not comparing XZ and ZZH on the ban and/ or their scandal, but more on how the c-net may treated ZZH if he ever come back. When XZ was slowly coming back, he was a lighting rod that provoked extreme reactions, there were no middle ground. His fan were overprotective and his anti fan were aggressively push him and anyone who talk about him. So anyone in the middle was jump on by both side. I see this could happening to ZZH. His news would recieved both hate/anger or love…no middle . As for the government, I can see them suppressing his acting career, but I think he is too small of a fish for them to really want do anything extreme, but did what they did: throw him to the c-net mobs to devour.
All a side note: I glad 😃 I am not the only one who noticed that ZX’s backer was the government. If he didn’t have CCTV and/or Hunan TV backing him during AO3 sandal, I don’t think he would made a come back. I am not saying this a bad thing, but it just prove to me that you need a strong back to survive in this business. For the government they get two hot idols as their face ( ZX and WY), and the untamed boys get some securities.
Objectively (As in, regardless of what he does, right or wrong, etc), when stars in C-Ent have had horrible scandals…
Whose knows, life is full unexpectedly things happening. But yeah…I agreed with most what you said. So days it look hopeless but someday it look up. 🤷🏻♀️ I am realistic, it will be a hard road back for him, but got to stay positive. As for the ban limited, I believe it to soon to know because of there is too many thing happening with Evergrande. So he may go unnoticed for awhile ( which I think is kind of good). C-net business is so fickle and all relationship are all transactional, if someone thinks they can use him they will help him.
The grand feasts that WKX present to Ah-Xu on their date day….it was mostly boil vegetables….😔😂 and the shrimp he give to Ah-Xu at CL’s homecoming party in the beginning…so sad and small, at less give him a Jimbo one if you want to win his love. The soups all look like water. I am glad that producer spend the budget on costume and photography, but the food look like the crew’s leftover from lunch 🤣 I really suspect the nuts company partly put in the contract for funding the show..no other food will look as good as the nut. 🤫
Objectively (As in, regardless of what he does, right or wrong, etc), when stars in C-Ent have had horrible scandals…
This is why I think we won’t hear anything for at till mid-2022. With everything happening now and tension with China and other countries…and the Chinese with thirty high level of nationalism right now, since it’s the CCP’s birthday year, I would be surprised to hear anything from him for while. If he has any good management or advisers, they should be doing things under the radar. The only thing I could think of is government or system wanting to used him as example and it would hard for them back track.
If he does come back, I agree he will be a light rob like Xiao Zhan, where there’s a hater for ever supporter, I just don’t know how much his domestic fan is a diehard fan like Xiao Zhan’s fan or not. Because some people just don’t want to talk about Xiao Zhan because their will get hate from both side. So maybe ZZH will be something like that…who know. I just know that WOH and the CP fan are older and have more money then most drama and CP fan…which is good thing I guess, because money talk.
Yes. This is one of most beautiful drama. The male actor are beautiful, the female actors are flawless, the costume is so well made and become a way for telling the story. The only thing that is ugly is the food…..😏 maybe not the nut.
So we all know that CAPA put a ban on ZZH, but in their letter, they never put what kind of ban it is (in terms of length). To give some information from the articles I read, not all ban is the same. From the earliest from Variety, which has the most information about the new guidelines, they did talk about how a “ban” artist can come back. There are four lengths of ban time, “one-year, three-year, five-year or permanent ban from the entertainment world”. If they are not permanently ban, then they have can apply with the “Ethics building Committee” six months before their ban time limit is over to be assess if they can come back. Even after they are approved, “they must allow the committee to “guide them in… public welfare projects and other activities to improve their social image.” So if he come back, expect a lot of kowtowing of the CCP from him.
Now as for ZZH, they have never stated how long his ban is. Based on the stars that are ban at the same time. Two broke the laws: Kris Wu and Zheng Shuang, I believed these two are permanently ban. Well of course Kris Wu is never coming back and Zheng Shuang’s close her studio down several weeks ago. So she either got a personal message that she is ban for good or she can tell that she too taint to comeback and make the decide herself to quit. As for Zhao Wei, I read her block was send by an internal memo, instead of public statement like the other. So it implied that it was NRTA, not CAPA behind the ban. So I think she is permanently ban. As for ZZH, he could be fall in the 1-5 years ban. However, I believed it partly 1-2 years, but we will won’t find out at less till next year. If he have a 1 year ban or not, he would have wait for 3-6 months before we can see any activities from him.
Two thing can affect his comeback:
1: ZZH can decide to give up acting – he can see how the environment is and may decide it too hard to come back. However, he haven’t close his studio yet like Zheng Shuang. So he may be staying low for now and see what everyone is saying.
2: the government and industries: if the government feel that what he did will go against their morally standard, they may not approval his restatement. The industries can feel that he is a bad investment then he may not find a backer, which the most important thing in the industries. But, I personally think that’s they are waiting to see how things turn because they didn’t put a definitive length on his ban. Also all the angry weibo post are dying down and only his fan or supporter post about him now. Also China’s articles about the new crack down and regulation when mention Word of Honor they will mention him but doesn’t mention his ban -Example, https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202109/1234597.shtml
Also if the industries and government thinks they can made use of him, either make money or use him as figure head, they will bring him back and support him.
He hinted that tainted actor ‘s show are taken down can come back after period of time when thing die down. Wang Hailin is big anti- Xiao Zhan and all traffic star drama. I feel He embodies all these new ban for BL and “cleaning of industry”, if he think that “certain artist had an incident” and his work take off is “not a permanent measure”. It give hope that he maybe talk about ZZH and he may come back. Even if he not talk about ZZH, this give hint that there hope that they will allow certain “actor” and their show to comeback.
So in all, I really don’t know what will happen to ZZH till at less the middle to the ending of 2022. This may all chance because thing are moving quickly in the industries, from BL books and shows being ban.
He just wasted a year in self pity and didn’t go find Kang Sae Byeok’s brother or Cho Sang Woo’s mom. All those people give up their life and he just sat there for year. Granted he got the brother out of orphanage, but just push him to Cho Sang Woo’s mom. He should have just got on the plane at the end. I guess about the old man since the beginning by the time we met up again, I didn’t really care. There is something about main guy I didn’t like from the start to finish. I feel he was just weak.
Secondary couple: the prince and the princessThird couple: MF’s maid and ML’s bodyguard/servant
This is a second season, so the main couple was already established…the MF fall first…love at first sight. The prince is the second male (Ling Zi Ran) in this series, so he has been in love withMF since the first series. The first season, he had more present and you could see that he had a chance of getting the MF away from ML, but this season he reduced to almost background characters and lose his chemistry with the main MF. I think to set up his romance with the second female lead the princess (Yue You Er). I don’t know who fell first because the case got boring and I got bored with ever characters. As for the third couple, they just out right stated they liked each in one of the episode. .
CAPA is affiliate with the government. The government is their backer, whatever they do is directed by the party.
I am confused (and this not out of sarcasm, but real confusions ). What we are “believing”. Do you not believe that CAPA is managed by the government? Or that the government is behind ZZH down fall or they are not involved?
Is your friend saying CAPA is not a government backed organization or that NRTA (SARTF) is not part of government?
I am not saiding that the government was specifically out to get him. I am talking not about his description. I was pointing out that CAPA is “affiliated” with the government. They actually said on their website that they are mangered by China’s Ministry of Culture and Tourism. So they take their directions from the government, in the sense all these new rule is based off what the government wants. Yes, they are a “members”- run organization but their organization is back by the government. This is why they can set these rules and have the government backing them to enforce it. And me pointing out I do research is not a slight on you, but to point out that I did my homework when I wrote these statements about on CAPA and NRTA ( and again not about ZZH specifically) and not just passing rumors.
CAPA is affiliate with the government. The government is their backer, whatever they do is directed by the party.
From all the articles I read, they all said in passing that the CAPA is government backed. it is “non-profit” but still affiliated with government. That’s why it has power to ban actor and directors.
‘’Established in 1988, the previously low-profile, non-profit CAPA is a national-level organization under the purview of China’s Ministry of Culture and Tourism. It has 31 province-level branches across the country and some 10,000 members, its website states.’” -from Variety articles the one that give a little history.
NRTA ( now change to SARFT, it took me awhile to figure out that they are the same, but got reorganize and change their name to SARFT or it is other way around. However, people(all those reviewers) used them interchangeable) is not affiliated, but is a department of the government. It is at ministry level.
So if they “ban” ZZH then he would be really dead in the water, but because he didn’t break any law, the less powerful arm was used and there is tiny, little, creak in the wall he could possibly come back…but it would really hard.
Lol…I do my research and did a lot of reading and keep away most gossip rag or online “new” site, which I can tell are bias either pro or anti-China. 🤷🏻♀️ When I get interest in subject, I get into the weed of it.
So I am helping someone on Reddit with getting a copy of WOH. So I wrote a write-up on how to download 1080p video from YouTube. I thought I should share just case you guys don’t know and want to keep a copy too. You can’t download pay extra, but you can get free ones.
Is it confirmed? Will no new Bromance/BL dramas will air Like which are already finished shooting?
Well, WeTV is releasing A League of Nobleman, but it was really not promoted as BL anymore, more of a real bromance- friendship. No underline of romance. The author and production having being fighting about how much it is true adaptations of her work. They also changed the name again too. Their two other works, immortality and winner king is rumored to get around of editing to pass censorship. But, the regulator has officially ban BL drama, so I won’t expect any new drama at level of WOH with expressing the romantic feeling. I would be surprised if they keep the glances that we got in the untamed in the new drama. I don’t know what they are going to do with Heaven Official blessing, since it is shooting now. They can still change thing around, but I don’t know what the end product would be. All of these are very popular IPO, which all of eye on it.
I am asking because I am confused. The social media accounts can be banned by CAPA?
No, but the government has been putting a lot of pressures on the social and entertainment businesses. So to survive they will do what the government want. So why ZZH is banned because he fall under the “unpatriotic” actor that government doesn’t want to influence the younger generation.
As for the government, I can see them suppressing his acting career, but I think he is too small of a fish for them to really want do anything extreme, but did what they did: throw him to the c-net mobs to devour.
All a side note: I glad 😃 I am not the only one who noticed that ZX’s backer was the government. If he didn’t have CCTV and/or Hunan TV backing him during AO3 sandal, I don’t think he would made a come back. I am not saying this a bad thing, but it just prove to me that you need a strong back to survive in this business. For the government they get two hot idols as their face ( ZX and WY), and the untamed boys get some securities.
If he does come back, I agree he will be a light rob like Xiao Zhan, where there’s a hater for ever supporter, I just don’t know how much his domestic fan is a diehard fan like Xiao Zhan’s fan or not. Because some people just don’t want to talk about Xiao Zhan because their will get hate from both side. So maybe ZZH will be something like that…who know. I just know that WOH and the CP fan are older and have more money then most drama and CP fan…which is good thing I guess, because money talk.
So we all know that CAPA put a ban on ZZH, but in their letter, they never put what kind of ban it is (in terms of length). To give some information from the articles I read, not all ban is the same. From the earliest from Variety, which has the most information about the new guidelines, they did talk about how a “ban” artist can come back.
There are four lengths of ban time, “one-year, three-year, five-year or permanent ban from the entertainment world”. If they are not permanently ban, then they have can apply with the “Ethics building Committee” six months before their ban time limit is over to be assess if they can come back. Even after they are approved, “they must allow the committee to “guide them in… public welfare projects and other activities to improve their social image.” So if he come back, expect a lot of kowtowing of the CCP from him.
https://variety.com/2021/politics/news/china-morality-guidelines-outlaw-lip-syncing-1234905700/
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/general-news/china-ban-boy-bands-reality-talent-shows-1235008064/
NRTA 8 point-plan (ban)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/aug/27/china-bans-celebrity-rankings-in-bid-to-rectify-chaos-in-the-fan-community
https://fortune.com/2021/09/03/china-expands-crackdown-ban-film-stars-incorrect-politics-zhao-wei-vicky/
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/27/business/media/china-celebrity-culture.html
This part is my opinion and speculation:
Now as for ZZH, they have never stated how long his ban is. Based on the stars that are ban at the same time. Two broke the laws: Kris Wu and Zheng Shuang, I believed these two are permanently ban. Well of course Kris Wu is never coming back and Zheng Shuang’s close her studio down several weeks ago. So she either got a personal message that she is ban for good or she can tell that she too taint to comeback and make the decide herself to quit. As for Zhao Wei, I read her block was send by an internal memo, instead of public statement like the other. So it implied that it was NRTA, not CAPA behind the ban. So I think she is permanently ban. As for ZZH, he could be fall in the 1-5 years ban. However, I believed it partly 1-2 years, but we will won’t find out at less till next year. If he have a 1 year ban or not, he would have wait for 3-6 months before we can see any activities from him.
Two thing can affect his comeback:
1: ZZH can decide to give up acting – he can see how the environment is and may decide it too hard to come back. However, he haven’t close his studio yet like Zheng Shuang. So he may be staying low for now and see what everyone is saying.
2: the government and industries: if the government feel that what he did will go against their morally standard, they may not approval his restatement. The industries can feel that he is a bad investment then he may not find a backer, which the most important thing in the industries. But, I personally think that’s they are waiting to see how things turn because they didn’t put a definitive length on his ban. Also all the angry weibo post are dying down and only his fan or supporter post about him now. Also China’s articles about the new crack down and regulation when mention Word of Honor they will mention him but doesn’t mention his ban -Example, https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202109/1234597.shtml
Also if the industries and government thinks they can made use of him, either make money or use him as figure head, they will bring him back and support him.
Also recently this clip from Wang Hailin interview:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6t-r2RX0FU
He hinted that tainted actor ‘s show are taken down can come back after period of time when thing die down. Wang Hailin is big anti- Xiao Zhan and all traffic star drama. I feel He embodies all these new ban for BL and “cleaning of industry”, if he think that “certain artist had an incident” and his work take off is “not a permanent measure”. It give hope that he maybe talk about ZZH and he may come back. Even if he not talk about ZZH, this give hint that there hope that they will allow certain “actor” and their show to comeback.
So in all, I really don’t know what will happen to ZZH till at less the middle to the ending of 2022. This may all chance because thing are moving quickly in the industries, from BL books and shows being ban.
The prince is the second male
(Ling Zi Ran) in this series, so he has been in love withMF since the first series. The first season, he had more present and you could see that he had a chance of getting the MF away from ML, but this season he reduced to almost background characters and lose his chemistry with the main MF. I think to set up his romance with the second female lead the princess (Yue You Er). I don’t know who fell first because the case got boring and I got bored with ever characters. As for the third couple, they just out right stated they liked each in one of the episode. .
Is your friend saying CAPA is not a government backed organization or that NRTA (SARTF) is not part of government?
I am not saiding that the government was specifically out to get him. I am talking not about his description.
I was pointing out that CAPA is “affiliated” with the government. They actually said on their website that they are mangered by China’s Ministry of Culture and Tourism. So they take their directions from the government, in the sense all these new rule is based off what the government wants. Yes, they are a “members”- run organization but their organization is back by the government. This is why they can set these rules and have the government backing them to enforce it.
And me pointing out I do research is not a slight on you, but to point out that I did my homework when I wrote these statements about on CAPA and NRTA ( and again not about ZZH specifically) and not just passing rumors.
‘’Established in 1988, the previously low-profile, non-profit CAPA is a national-level organization under the purview of China’s Ministry of Culture and Tourism. It has 31 province-level branches across the country and some 10,000 members, its website states.’” -from Variety articles the one that give a little history.
https://variety.com/2021/politics/news/china-morality-guidelines-outlaw-lip-syncing-1234905700/
NRTA ( now change to SARFT, it took me awhile to figure out that they are the same, but got reorganize and change their name to SARFT or it is other way around. However, people(all those reviewers) used them interchangeable) is not affiliated, but is a department of the government. It is at ministry level.
So if they “ban” ZZH then he would be really dead in the water, but because he didn’t break any law, the less powerful arm was used and there is tiny, little, creak in the wall he could possibly come back…but it would really hard.
Lol…I do my research and did a lot of reading and keep away most gossip rag or online “new” site, which I can tell are bias either pro or anti-China. 🤷🏻♀️ When I get interest in subject, I get into the weed of it.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ZtKbVyXzE2Th7q9mv52KZ2rEKYc-6I2TQDyeizNP59M/edit
Their two other works, immortality and winner king is rumored to get around of editing to pass censorship. But, the regulator has officially ban BL drama, so I won’t expect any new drama at level of WOH with expressing the romantic feeling. I would be surprised if they keep the glances that we got in the untamed in the new drama. I don’t know what they are going to do with Heaven Official blessing, since it is shooting now. They can still change thing around, but I don’t know what the end product would be. All of these are very popular IPO, which all of eye on it.