I am so happy you enjoyed it! Ngl, it was like my second historical C-drama which is when I started getting into…
NiF is as close to a masterpiece as they come - almost a perfect 10, LOL. I used to have such a crush on most of the cast hahaha~ (And such a heartbreak with NiF2).
There are very few that left such a strong impression - TU, NiF, Fangs of Fortune (I admit it's all the pretty and the crazy chemistry), Guardians of the Dafeng, all Chinese, and then there's only Flower of Evil and Life on Mars on the kdrama side :D
This turned out a lot better than I expected. There was no rush, there were no heroics, it eventually came to a natural end. I liked it a lot, even though they did Yin Fang wrong with that hairdo LOL. He's usually quite handsome.
Lin MuRan (playing DongDong) did an amazing job. I hope he gets more important roles in the future.
This was quite a nostalgic watch for me, I'd forgotten what the 90s were like, it's eerie that China in the 90s doesn't seem so different from Europe in the 90s...
Well, a standard Cinderfella story. I wish they'd have gone back to the real/original world. That would've made it a bit better IMHO (still cliche, but everything else was too so...)
My problem with King is that he doesn't investigate to find the culprit, he decides who's the culprit and then…
LOL, that's a bit too extreme, isn't it? These are fictional characters after all, and saying one loves or hates them is a bit of an euphemism at all times. At the same time... one can expect some idealistic traits AT LEAST from fictional characters, right? Because if not for that, why would we need fiction for?!
That being said, I'm not hating King. I'm just stating he is scum. In an idealistic (fictional) supernatural world where ghosts exist and can affect living people, LOL.
I don’t understand the king hate. He is the only logical person in this series! He said singha shouldn’t bring…
My problem with King is that he doesn't investigate to find the culprit, he decides who's the culprit and then goes all the way to fit the facts to his decision.
That's not what a good police officer would do. He's scum.
Ep 42what's the timeline for Nie Mingjue's death? obviously after yiling patriarch's death, but how long after?
Novel timeline - about a year after the Burial Mounds siege (because the remaining Wen people did not surrender, in the novel), XY takes his revenge on the Chang Clan (the clan leader had at one time caused his finger to be destroyed when he was a child), there's a clan conference about it, XY is caught and released by JGY. NMJ catches him at it, throws him off a stair and calls him "son of a whore". Two to three months later he was dead by a qi deviation.
The drama timeline is pretty much scrambled so much that it can't be easily seen - XXC, Song Lan and XY meet WWX and LWJ in their past lives (they do not, in the novel). NMJ is still alive at the Nightless City siege before WWX dies, just like in the novel, then soon (unreported when) LXC teaches JGY the mind-calming song, JGY gets access to the library and twists the music, NMJ eventually gets a qi deviation.
In the drama, the one who calls JGY son of a *** is a Nie individual whom JGY pretty much immediately kills, NMJ throws him out of the clan, he then becomes a hero at the end of the Sunshot Campaign (having presumably waited his time to get revenge on NMJ eventually, because NMJ sees through him) and the rest is the same.
There are a bit more details in the spin-off movie The Fatal Journey. There, the timeline of his death is about 2 months after he burns down NHS's art and fans.
Umm, no, JZX was a b!tch to YanLi about their arranged marriage. WWX is in the right. JC is being a little more…
He's more at fault actually, than shown. But I'll leave that for you to discover :)
I know - he's frustratingly easy to love and try to defend for anything he does, even when he's wrong. I'm not saying he needs to be defended - just that he does do wrong once in a while and then has to deal with the mess he's caused. I love that in a character. He's only (drama/danmei/fictionally) human.
LOL, why does his hot blood get ahead - all kids are immortal (til they aren't anymore). He was in his immortal phase :D
Umm, no, JZX was a b!tch to YanLi about their arranged marriage. WWX is in the right. JC is being a little more…
Again, this needs a lot of context.
So, for one - arranged marriages in noble clans (in real history and in wuxia/xianxia) is the NORM. No matter how independent and willful he was, JZX WOULD have married YanLi if his parents had insisted. If he wanted it or not - didn't matter. Look at it from the other side - if this was the Jins insisting on the Jiangs to give them their daughter anyway no matter who she loved, they would have had to.
Because it's a marriage agreement, and it's pretty much as good as marriage (only missing the forms and rituals).
I am not trying to say he couldn't really love her, just that he acted like an obnoxious b!tch and wasn't entitled to do what he did just because she wasn't a cultivator. His own mother wasn't a cultivator. Most of the wifes of the clan leaders were not. Mme Yu was an exception, not the rule. So to reject her because she was not a cultivator, and "plain-looking" (or not as pretty as he would have liked - in the novel; not going to comment on how Xuan Lu is so pretty, because she IS, but the drama/novel said she was plain, LOL), and gallivanting around with a team of cheerleaders instead is not him being a rebel, it's him being a b!tch. Sorry, I'll stand on this hill til kingdom come, That YanLi was so in love she could look past his faults is not my problem, I'm a side judge of their situation.
Err, WWX is not bought and paid for just because he was taken in by JFM. Yes he was raised by the family, but he would have never inherited the clan leader's place. That was set apart for Jiang Cheng and there was basically no way WWX could have ever come in his place. Also, he did not directly cause them harm - and yes his actions eventually circled back to them being in danger but the Wens would have come anyway. Everything stemmed from WRH's ambition to rule all the clans and if there wasn't a WWX there would have been another reason or made up incident and they would have come and done the same as they did.
WWX himself realised that - in the snow Silent Room scene, he muses about how the world sometimes just needs a target and any reason will do. If it wasn't him, it would be another - and it was immediately proven when he was ~redeemed~ and JGY fell from grace at the same time. And nothing about it had anything to do with righteousness and the world recognising bravery and right or wrong.
RE: JC yes he is a complex character (one of my favourites TBH). He is impulsive and has an inferiority complex and feels unloved and at times he speaks before he thinks - but he was never more mature than WWX before the war. None of them were - they were almost children (15-16 when in school). All of them were basically consumed with dreams of being the top warrior, being admired and recognised by all, etc.
And TBH all of them are allowed to make mistakes - actually the story would've been bland if they were all perfect or rotten from the very beginning. That's why we all love character progress in a novel/drama, LOL.
There are very few that left such a strong impression - TU, NiF, Fangs of Fortune (I admit it's all the pretty and the crazy chemistry), Guardians of the Dafeng, all Chinese, and then there's only Flower of Evil and Life on Mars on the kdrama side :D
Lin MuRan (playing DongDong) did an amazing job. I hope he gets more important roles in the future.
This was quite a nostalgic watch for me, I'd forgotten what the 90s were like, it's eerie that China in the 90s doesn't seem so different from Europe in the 90s...
Thanks!
But it looks very promising, I want a solid cdrama to end the year, here's hoping.
That being said, I'm not hating King. I'm just stating he is scum. In an idealistic (fictional) supernatural world where ghosts exist and can affect living people, LOL.
That's not what a good police officer would do. He's scum.
Also, NO, Darin is off-limits, you hear me, scary ghost thing?! Hands off him! Choose another Wednesday.
No jump scare this ep though. *sad*
Famous last words :D
The drama timeline is pretty much scrambled so much that it can't be easily seen - XXC, Song Lan and XY meet WWX and LWJ in their past lives (they do not, in the novel). NMJ is still alive at the Nightless City siege before WWX dies, just like in the novel, then soon (unreported when) LXC teaches JGY the mind-calming song, JGY gets access to the library and twists the music, NMJ eventually gets a qi deviation.
In the drama, the one who calls JGY son of a *** is a Nie individual whom JGY pretty much immediately kills, NMJ throws him out of the clan, he then becomes a hero at the end of the Sunshot Campaign (having presumably waited his time to get revenge on NMJ eventually, because NMJ sees through him) and the rest is the same.
There are a bit more details in the spin-off movie The Fatal Journey. There, the timeline of his death is about 2 months after he burns down NHS's art and fans.
I know - he's frustratingly easy to love and try to defend for anything he does, even when he's wrong. I'm not saying he needs to be defended - just that he does do wrong once in a while and then has to deal with the mess he's caused. I love that in a character. He's only (drama/danmei/fictionally) human.
LOL, why does his hot blood get ahead - all kids are immortal (til they aren't anymore). He was in his immortal phase :D
So, for one - arranged marriages in noble clans (in real history and in wuxia/xianxia) is the NORM. No matter how independent and willful he was, JZX WOULD have married YanLi if his parents had insisted. If he wanted it or not - didn't matter. Look at it from the other side - if this was the Jins insisting on the Jiangs to give them their daughter anyway no matter who she loved, they would have had to.
Because it's a marriage agreement, and it's pretty much as good as marriage (only missing the forms and rituals).
I am not trying to say he couldn't really love her, just that he acted like an obnoxious b!tch and wasn't entitled to do what he did just because she wasn't a cultivator. His own mother wasn't a cultivator. Most of the wifes of the clan leaders were not. Mme Yu was an exception, not the rule. So to reject her because she was not a cultivator, and "plain-looking" (or not as pretty as he would have liked - in the novel; not going to comment on how Xuan Lu is so pretty, because she IS, but the drama/novel said she was plain, LOL), and gallivanting around with a team of cheerleaders instead is not him being a rebel, it's him being a b!tch. Sorry, I'll stand on this hill til kingdom come, That YanLi was so in love she could look past his faults is not my problem, I'm a side judge of their situation.
Err, WWX is not bought and paid for just because he was taken in by JFM. Yes he was raised by the family, but he would have never inherited the clan leader's place. That was set apart for Jiang Cheng and there was basically no way WWX could have ever come in his place. Also, he did not directly cause them harm - and yes his actions eventually circled back to them being in danger but the Wens would have come anyway. Everything stemmed from WRH's ambition to rule all the clans and if there wasn't a WWX there would have been another reason or made up incident and they would have come and done the same as they did.
WWX himself realised that - in the snow Silent Room scene, he muses about how the world sometimes just needs a target and any reason will do. If it wasn't him, it would be another - and it was immediately proven when he was ~redeemed~ and JGY fell from grace at the same time. And nothing about it had anything to do with righteousness and the world recognising bravery and right or wrong.
RE: JC yes he is a complex character (one of my favourites TBH). He is impulsive and has an inferiority complex and feels unloved and at times he speaks before he thinks - but he was never more mature than WWX before the war. None of them were - they were almost children (15-16 when in school). All of them were basically consumed with dreams of being the top warrior, being admired and recognised by all, etc.
And TBH all of them are allowed to make mistakes - actually the story would've been bland if they were all perfect or rotten from the very beginning. That's why we all love character progress in a novel/drama, LOL.