ShortCircuit

That's extremely clear and helpful, thank you a lot!!

Oh, so her brother is still alive? She said (in that first half ep I had time for) her father and older brother died and her family fell from grace. Maybe she had more brothers).

Thank you!

I haven't read the novel either, sorry. So when the drama timeline starts, according to the novel, would she be in her first or her second life? (What I want to know is if she already knows how things unfold in the future or not).

And if they were defeated that means they died... does it? (That's so sad, they seem to be a bunch of cute brotherly fellas).

- at the beginning of the drama, is she already reincarnated or it didn't happen yet?

And what happens to the whole bunch of Wei brothers? Are they all going to die soon? (I saw them all as guest roles).

Trying to decide if I want to watch this, I only had time for half of the first ep and it looks good so far, but I'd like to know where it's at, in time.

Questions for the novel readers -

ETA So my questions are answered, and it looks good AND I like the FL a lot (that sword dance was mesmerising). Ding YuXi isn't bad at all either, LOL. I guess this one goes on the PTW list.

This is my fourth WYL drama and in all of them she seems to be acting almost the same - wide-eyed telegraphed emotions, not much actual feeling into it (or not that I can see), all three roles kind of ditzy damsels (I'm counting IAN as two dramas). Though in IAN she was supposed to be like that. In this one and the other (When Destiny Brings the Demon - that I haven't finished yet despite liking the ML a lot, too), she's just ditzy, clumsy, yell-ish (is that a word?), not-quite-there acting.

It sure didn't help that the time-travelling romance didn't quite mesh with the palace/revenge drama. Or that Li YunRui didn't seem to have a lot to do except fawn over her. I mean, usually in these kind of dramas, the support cast give it some weight, but instead we spent a lot of time on romcom and not enough time of any consequence with the villains. What was the need for so much time and scenes wasted on Yu Lun and when it needed details, suddenly they're flashbacks to him being already caught - and tied up in a clownish manner - and spilling out his master's most important secrets. Which, BTW, how did he even know where the secret documents were?! And they were particularly important to solving the rebellion basically in a minute.

So yeah, that was clumsily done.

The OP promised a lot of action, and it happened, but also, it pretty much never had any real consequences. Like, she sew his wound up - AWAKE - with not much prep, and after he had lost so much blood etc, and nary a fever?! Like, this IS a thousand years back right? There still are NO antibiotics, right? That ~sterilisation~ thing she did was basically a joke. At least pretend he's actually hurt, dammit. And then some days later he's back to being up and about and fighting off dozens of trained soldiers.

So I guess this was supposed to be just romcom. With some heroics so that the ML also looked good.

Oh well. It was nice while it lasted.

Best male character: Big Bro with his inferiority complex. That man knew his limits and braved them anyway.

Best female character: the Princess. That woman knew what she wanted and went about to get it. Props to her.

This is kind of forgettable, but it did help pass the time.

Dunno. I thought they might make cameos in the future timeline, but I guess that didn't happen. Maybe they were there before the family went back in time, but I'm not interested enough to go and check.

TBH, I might just not like the FL (or the character). But I liked the heroic parts (even when they were kind of silly) and didn't like the romance.

The best chara - for me - is the brother. He seems to grow the most (while not changing all that much). The way the switchback happened kind of muted my enjoyment of the whole drama, also. But I was entertained, and that matters, a bit.

Pei Fei married into the Shen clan (I think the Princess too was part of it). I guess Pei Fei was a lot more pragmatic and married for kids instead of love, LOL so probably not to the princess.

Lin Yan's wife is Lady Shen (but that's ambiguous since there's no first name), and the grandad liked talking about Lin Yan instead of Pei Fei so those details didn't matter in the end.

The first few minutes of WoF are BREATHING TTEOTM, LOL. I'm going to take that as TTJ coming back to give all of us a second round :D

I only had ten minutes to spare, LOL, Tantai Jin is SO back! Up to and including hairdo, AND that building off which the first crow attack happened (this time it was wine fishes).

If only they had given him some music lessons on the way back, LOL.

This will definitely go on the watch list as soon as I can get more than a few minutes at a time to use...

Yeah, I also think the Chinese opera eps were the best part of the police cases, the guest cast were amazing and totally convinced me (I felt so bad about both main guest charas, neither deserved what happened), and the actual parallels were chilling - when Shen Yi was painting his face I was kind of certain he had gone off the rails to see what's on the unhinged side of his consciousness. (Not to mention it seemed to me he was a bit too interested into looking into the abyss, even in the first season - always taking chances, always making it a bit dangerous... because he wanted to SEE. I love those teaching moments where he explains the tableaus - it's an insight to the way his mind works.)

I don't think Shen Yi ever was on Fang's side, I totally think he was pretending from the very beginning, because he saw something of himself in Fang and "invented" an almost transparent mask of himself to play along with Fang. That's why the seducing/luring him to the other side seemed possible throughout the series, because he was pretending but at the same time sincere about it.

WHY would he had told Du Cheng earlier? Have you seen Du Cheng's poker face yet? Neither have I, LOL. Fang was too smart (and kind of powerful) for Du Cheng to deal with, and so Shen Yi needed to have him SEE Shen Yi going over to the enemy's side and REACT honestly to it. I promise you Fang was always aware of Du Cheng's reactions every time Shen Yi was around, and Shen Yi used that to mislead and distract him.

Shen Yi is quite smart, though he got paired with Du Cheng who's a lot more of a hands-on kind of type, so this second season used a lot of its time to show Shen Yi's possible roads not taken, LOL. Pretty anxiety-giving for me throughout the series.

And then they slap that ending on it!!!! I STILL think it's all in Shen Yi's imagination, that dark road's SY compared to the nice road's SY but not in actual reality. Or so I hope. Or we're going to see a third season. (Not that I'd say no to that, LOL).

It comes to me I haven't yet watched him in a costume drama either, LOL (mostly because I either don't like the FL, or that he's main cast but not the ML and I don't like the ML either, or something. Or too many good costume dramas, too little time.)

There'll come a day, though :D

Is your thriller itch scratched, then? :D

This is so cute! I already quite like Hatano, and finally a BL character reacts normally to a sudden strange proposal, LOL - go, Saku! But my favourite is Hotaru :)

Tan JianCi (Shen Yi) is appreciated in costume dramas LOL. He's good in modern dramas too, anyway, so it doesn't matter. I'll be a bit of a fangirl here and admit I like how small he is, LOL. Whenever he comes up against taller or bigger guys, he has to pull the focus on himself, I guess he does it in dramas, too, when needed.

Jin ShiJia, on the other hand, IS way taller and bigger. He doesn't really fit the esthetics of nowadays' costume dramas (maybe he was too young for NiF-like casting, 'cause those guys knew how to pick'em.) So probably that's why he gets to play big, tall guys - police officers a lot of times, too.

If your crime thriller itch isn't completely scratched after UtS2, maybe have a look at Be Reborn or The Embers - those are good, IMHO. And pretty thrilling, too, LOL.

That's why I said it's a bit Nietzschean, LOL - you are probably uncomfortable with the way Shen Yi seems to let himself be... seduced toward the dark side. A lot of watchers commented on the colder relationship between Du Cheng and Shen Yi in the second season - it's mostly Shen Yi's story (despite the collaboration on different police cases). It's a lot more introspective (because in the first season we all focused on how cute Shen Yi was in his oversized t-shirts and helpless around Du Cheng's badass antics and we all forgot he's actually a pretty smart guy... and smart guys make bad choices when they overthink things.)

Don't worry, though, and trust the process. Myself, I like more cool-cut psychological stories (unless they turn bad at the end, as some do), and I watched S2 as a story of quiet dread ('cause I obviously watched it as it aired and didn't know the ending, which I won't even tell you how it's like LOL. Suffer like we all did :D)

BTW, don't you think the gene-editing rich guy has a lot in common with the guy in Mobius? The characters struck me as pretty similar.

I have dozens of accounts and never bothered to remember all the DIFFERENT passwords I set. I have a recovery account and that one's password I do remember, LOL. But you'll be surprised that way too many people write very simple passwords and worse... they use THE SAME password on all their accounts - banking included.

Will you go watch the second season? You might have noted the deep bromance (there's no slip-over into BL, but there are some undertones - and YES they took some pretty courageous turns in some of the cases) and the second season is more Nietzschean, so to speak - Shen Yi will have his integrity tried, and Du Cheng can't seem to find the way to do anything about it.

PS If you want to see police being a grayer shade, maybe try The Embers (though the city where things happen isn't "actually" in China, plot-wise, LOL.

Who and why changed the title?! It still is "I DON'T want to be brothers with you" so why the edit?!

It's not the drama though. This IS danmei (very watered-down re: the romance aspect) but danmei nevertheless. The novel it's based on is unapologetical about it (though the romance is still just subtly in the focus). Even with the censored approach, it comes through beautifully.

And people (mostly women, LOL, or at least mostly the women admit to it) like danmei.

Sadly, with TU's success and later with WoH's success, the censorship woke up and inflicted more rules so we've been robbed from more danmei dramas (that had already been filmed...)

If you like The Untamed and would like to try some more of the genre - Word of Honor, The Sleuth of Ming Dynasty, The Spirealm, Guardian are also available :)

It looks like they're going for a more OP version of the ML and a less techy version of the setting than in Fabricated City.

I guess it could be good. We'll see. (Though TBH what I actually liked in Fabricated City was precisely how powerless the ML was).

The Chinese Reset in which Bai JingTing is ML, LOL. It's another time-loop drama, but IMHO, better than this one (not that this one isn't pretty good too).

Still just on episode 5 because life - but omo! OMO! Omo-omo-omo! That's developing fast, didn't expect it.

I like it LOL, though I can't stand sound effects that tell me something's funny. I can recognise it myself if it is funny for me, thankyouverymuch.

Anyway, the censor guy went from "don't get close to a merchant wife" to "you're SUCH a lucky man" in about three seconds flat - as long as it took him to inhale that skewer, LOL.