After 29th, myself. Think about it like this. If those people were allowed to continue with whatever they had…
He's not aggressive at all (or enough) IMHO. His anger and need for revenge needs refueling - the first time he falls in love with the FL, he's about to decide he doesn't need to get revenge actually, so Gao Ming makes arrangements to remind him and stoke it all up, for reasons revealed in later eps. He's aware he's causing loss of life and at least distress for lots of people, and he regrets involving Zhixing in it - but seriously, if it were MYSELF... and I'd seen my parents' SKINS hanging on Zhixing's father's secret room for TEN FREAKING YEARS, I would torch the whole city and not need reminders on why I should have to get revenge.
He has a lot of strong selfless impulses - his first action with the not-really-geomancers is to try and arrange them so they could survive (but cannon fodder is cannon fodder after all), and then with the beggars, and so on, and so forth. He is his father's son.
But he DID go through a most traumatic experience and had to go from precious son and friend and brother to plastic-surgery-altered face imposter in order to go and get his family's killers. He was programmed to do this one thing (there's even a discussion about what's after, and he has no idea what would he have to live for).
TBH, he should take a few pages from some revenge webnovels LOL. Look at The Governor's Sickness ML - he planned the whole revenge as a CHILD of not even ten years, and he executed skilfully, no remorse present, til he got reunited with the MC and THEN some. (As an extra, he didn't even like the persons he was taking revenge for, he was just PISSED OFF). Or copy some of Shen ZeChuan's actions in Qiang Jin Jiu - he could care LESS who got hurt, as long as it's not the ML (who can take care of himself just fine, anyway), and he starts off with a whole lot less power than Zang Hai. And there are a whole lot of more examples.
Anyway, what's bothering me the most at this point - almost to the end - is the freaking music, where's the BGM OST, because I need it. For science. There's a good theme there that got fixed in my head and I have to play it for a few (hundreds) times in repeat before I can let go of the obsession LOL.
What is it with the afterlife scene, with the little kid and his little smirk and the little sister who didn't recognise him at first and his mom forever at her spinning, and his dad forever making him toys!!
DAMMIT I don't need tearjerker scenes right now LOL
Also, Gao Ming, I don't even care you managed to get him out, it was YOU and the rest of the Masters who put him in, in the first place!! He should eat humble pie for the rest of his life, he KNEW this kid that he raised and primed as a tactical weapon for most of his life, they ALL decided together he didn't need self-defense lessons but threw him to the wolves so he'd be double-exposed to anything the third killer wanted!!
PS And I KNEW who the third killer is because I've already seen Tian XiaoJie in Be Reborn doing basically the same stunt role, LOL. I wanted to see if it would change, but nope, so far it's 2 out of 2 roles he's been a swindling villain that I've watched. What can one say... he might be typecast.
Also, f@ck the Emperor, I hope he dies in agony and good riddance. Come ghosts and zombies, come and get them both!
Yes, I had exactly the same feeling. By mid way when you see the damage and the sacrifices fighting against eunuch…
I can't believe I have to write this for a drama character - did the freaking MARQUIS have to get the army involved and get all his soldiers killed?! I mean, he could've just ordered them out and stayed there and take the loss if he cared.
And he didn't. He wanted to win. All those deaths - and his own - are on him. Let's not twist into pretzels here trying to claim the moral high ground on a story.
All the revenge - and basically ALL the stories - involve innocent bystander victims. I guess we need to invent some other standard by which to judge this drama, then, so that we don't get it mixed up with all the rest of its kind in the genre.
After 29th, myself. Think about it like this. If those people were allowed to continue with whatever they had…
Yeah, modern optics on ancient revenge motivation always clash. What else is new. TBH I'd kind of want to let them have it raw - yes, this revenge killed half the population. Yes it's not ethical by the standards of the 21st century. Should the hero be tormented by it? Who cares, he has anger management issues and needs to vent. And I don't want to add the /s, people should learn to interpret words in writing too and not need prompts.
PS As for people not accepting collateral damage for revenge plots or stuff - people gobble up all the superhero trash movies where Batman or any one of the ~good~ guys destroy half the city - repeatedly - and still don't get the villain in the end.
was dongxia clothing based off of Mongolian costumes? cause whenever I saw their outfits I kept thinking it was…
To me they looked pretty similar to the "Demon" tribe's in Till the End of the Moon, and AFAIK, most of the costumes in that drama are based somewhat in Western regions of China (around the Mogao or Dunhuang Caves area).
Watched the first half of the first ep, do they ever move out of the silly slapstick-with-not-so-witty-dialogue area? I was really waiting for this one, started watching last week, felt off to me, now in its second week, how is it? (Please give me spoilers, particularly on style/dialogue and overall feeling. I am not looking for police comedy TBH...)
I’m on episode 28, and so far, I’m really loving it! It’s super engaging and interesting... but there’s…
After 29th, myself.
Think about it like this. If those people were allowed to continue with whatever they had already been doing for so many years, still a lot of innocent people would have died. And they wouldn't have been soldiers or fighters who at least would still have a chance to survive - they would've been the regular people, like those Zhifu pushed into the tombs to check if they could unravel the traps (or the tens of thousands who died when Zhifu's cracked dams failed, and all the people who were set adrift even if they didn't directly die).
Even IF he never tried to get revenge, those people still would be dead, and many more (because if he hadn't put an end to it, there would have been more).
(After 27th) I can't believe I was tearing up because of freaking Zhifu...
Also, I went AAAAAAAAAAARGH at that ep ending. WHAT THE HELL DON'T STOP THERE!!!!!!
Anyway going to watch 28th now.
This has to be the most emotional role XZ played (that I've watched) so far. He totally delivers, and the support cast too. The only lesser side is the FL's, TBH. Then again she doesn't have too much to do right now.
I saw something about this on tiktok 😠I thought it was adapted from that novel until I read your commentThen…
I know, right? Maybe it's because there would have had to be Xiao Hai in it and they don't do that in Thai BL that isn't drama-serious like, yet... But maybe if this one gets hyped and is well made, we could have a chance to see that one too eventually.
saw takuya mention had to run off to watch the first epimma be honest i initially wanted to wait for more episodes…
It kind of is :D
Go directly to the preview for ep2 and tell me if "Armin"/Pond doesn't look exactly like KimuTaku in his heyday (and by heyday I only mean he was so young, LOL, he has that fine aging quality still) :)
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A few moments later...
:D I don't know if they intended it as a comedic moment, but it made me giggle. His FACE :D
He has a lot of strong selfless impulses - his first action with the not-really-geomancers is to try and arrange them so they could survive (but cannon fodder is cannon fodder after all), and then with the beggars, and so on, and so forth. He is his father's son.
But he DID go through a most traumatic experience and had to go from precious son and friend and brother to plastic-surgery-altered face imposter in order to go and get his family's killers. He was programmed to do this one thing (there's even a discussion about what's after, and he has no idea what would he have to live for).
TBH, he should take a few pages from some revenge webnovels LOL. Look at The Governor's Sickness ML - he planned the whole revenge as a CHILD of not even ten years, and he executed skilfully, no remorse present, til he got reunited with the MC and THEN some. (As an extra, he didn't even like the persons he was taking revenge for, he was just PISSED OFF). Or copy some of Shen ZeChuan's actions in Qiang Jin Jiu - he could care LESS who got hurt, as long as it's not the ML (who can take care of himself just fine, anyway), and he starts off with a whole lot less power than Zang Hai. And there are a whole lot of more examples.
Anyway, what's bothering me the most at this point - almost to the end - is the freaking music, where's the BGM OST, because I need it. For science. There's a good theme there that got fixed in my head and I have to play it for a few (hundreds) times in repeat before I can let go of the obsession LOL.
DAMMIT I don't need tearjerker scenes right now LOL
Also, Gao Ming, I don't even care you managed to get him out, it was YOU and the rest of the Masters who put him in, in the first place!! He should eat humble pie for the rest of his life, he KNEW this kid that he raised and primed as a tactical weapon for most of his life, they ALL decided together he didn't need self-defense lessons but threw him to the wolves so he'd be double-exposed to anything the third killer wanted!!
PS And I KNEW who the third killer is because I've already seen Tian XiaoJie in Be Reborn doing basically the same stunt role, LOL. I wanted to see if it would change, but nope, so far it's 2 out of 2 roles he's been a swindling villain that I've watched. What can one say... he might be typecast.
Also, f@ck the Emperor, I hope he dies in agony and good riddance. Come ghosts and zombies, come and get them both!
And he didn't. He wanted to win. All those deaths - and his own - are on him. Let's not twist into pretzels here trying to claim the moral high ground on a story.
All the revenge - and basically ALL the stories - involve innocent bystander victims. I guess we need to invent some other standard by which to judge this drama, then, so that we don't get it mixed up with all the rest of its kind in the genre.
PS As for people not accepting collateral damage for revenge plots or stuff - people gobble up all the superhero trash movies where Batman or any one of the ~good~ guys destroy half the city - repeatedly - and still don't get the villain in the end.
Like here, (ep3, not a lot of spoilers in case you want to watch it: https://youtu.be/4l4L7nu2K3I?t=2993 )
Think about it like this. If those people were allowed to continue with whatever they had already been doing for so many years, still a lot of innocent people would have died. And they wouldn't have been soldiers or fighters who at least would still have a chance to survive - they would've been the regular people, like those Zhifu pushed into the tombs to check if they could unravel the traps (or the tens of thousands who died when Zhifu's cracked dams failed, and all the people who were set adrift even if they didn't directly die).
Even IF he never tried to get revenge, those people still would be dead, and many more (because if he hadn't put an end to it, there would have been more).
Anyway going to watch 28th now.
This has to be the most emotional role XZ played (that I've watched) so far. He totally delivers, and the support cast too. The only lesser side is the FL's, TBH. Then again she doesn't have too much to do right now.
Go directly to the preview for ep2 and tell me if "Armin"/Pond doesn't look exactly like KimuTaku in his heyday (and by heyday I only mean he was so young, LOL, he has that fine aging quality still) :)