So, the whole thing with Phut, his girlfriend, and male love interest, do you think we're going to get an end to that or is that happily forgotten? I mean, we last saw Vee attacking Jun over Phut and I believe, Yo was in the cafe? Is it just going to be Phut casually mentioning next week with Yo beside him or are we meant to pretend that it never happened? Because considering the editing in this show, I wouldn't be surprised LOL
Oh, I was so fcking far from the truth I was at the bottom of the ocean, in flipping Narnia 😂They got me good. I approve 😂 I dont like being able to guess things to easily. The editing was pretty awful though
I actually watched your scene this time. That silence broke my heart. You disappoint me bitterly. Like stale cake. Like a cold tea. Like socks in sandals. Your absolute muppet of a man!
AHEM
Anyway.
~ Sorn, darling, once again something wildly emotional happens to you and you decide communicating is too much effort? What are you, a brooding 19th century poet with absinthe in your hand? You had enough energy to get out of bed and dress yourself, surely picking up your phone would have taken less energy?
*deep frustrated faery snarl*
~ Oh! They rolled Penny back out again 😂 Can't wait to read Oddsare's comment 😂
~ I literally said, “Jun, just offer to feed it to him, he’ll eat it,” and BAM, Sorn obeyed like a trained golden retriever. Someone give me a writing credit.
~ Bet’s officially lost. I have lost. 20 minute mark and Sorn’s respecting boundaries. TWICE. 🥂 Character development? Possibly. Witchcraft more likely. It was me. Absolutely. Hexing Sorn through the screen 😂
~ And there he goes again being swee - oh wait, no. There it is. Back on his nonsense 😭
~ Seriously, Jun could get Sorn to do his taxes, wash his car, write a 12 verse country song, literally ANYTHING with just a hair flip and an a wink. We’ve now witnessed the sacred ritual, twice. Sorn folded like a souffle.
~ Ok, we are scene hopping like a caffeinated squirrel. I feel like I need a seatbelt 😂
~ Massive BIG CLAPS and a Halle-freekin-luyah for Sorn finally comprehending Jun’s boundaries. Gold star, my sexy disaster. Your hair still looks better down but I respect the effort.
~ OH. OH......OH....Jun, my sweet summer's child, you did not just agree to some Sorn style loving, and then push him off and slowly put your foot on his leg like a dominatrix licking her lips and saying,
'Kiss it Btch, we're doing this my way. Worship me'
What did I say last week about a BDSM relationship? It would absolutely work for these two. Sorn vaporises at the slightest of Jun's touch.
Jun is slowly learning to Top from the Bottom and Sorn is ready to be leash trained. A few years later, Sorn's ass is going to be whipped raw and he's going to like it 😂
~ And lastly, also, Tos, was it? My friend, if this isn’t a setup, congratulations on speed running your termination 😂 Provoking your boss during your trial period, is like lighting a match in a firework factory. Beautiful but really effing stupid😂 I mean, Thai absolutely deserves it but still. Not going to be good for you going forward. Sorn still hasn't forgiven Jom and you flat out asked for Thai's advice?
Um… why the rant? 😅 Ep 11 hasn’t even aired yet hun.*edit never mind, the caffeine kicked in and I left…
I think you've pulled out more depth in Penny than the editors of this show have. See, this is why I love the comment section. Sure, we get the odd troll or hyper defensive fan (the block button's right there😂) but most of the time, we're unpacking the same suitcase of character chaos, but we each find our own outfit. It's entertainment in its own right. I’m over here, navigating Sorn and Jun's stormy seas without a compass, and you've got a whole courtroom lockdown in Penny's defense 😂
I'm having a gothy moment and have been stuck on the horror shorts on youtube. But I'm still waiting for this one later 😂 That's how much I'm loving this show 😂 It's getting a whole extra point on it's final rating for sheer enjoyment alone
Penny Deserved BetterOr: How one bisexual office baddie in a tight skirt got stuck watching two grown men confuse…
Um… why the rant? 😅 Ep 11 hasn’t even aired yet hun.
*edit never mind, the caffeine kicked in and I left a little spiel of my own 😂
I think though, that Penny has her own unresolved issues. I don’t think she was written to be hated. Her dynamic with Sorn seemed more about complicating Jun’s emotional landscape than establishing a real romantic threat. She did cling a little to Sorn but never out of cruelty toward Jun. In fact, her target seemed to be June and not Jun, as seen by the brief scenario in the mall.
When Sorn ended things, seemingly by that conversation they edited out, she did seem a little disappointed. And then there was that moment with her watching from the window. It felt more like curiosity or confusion than malice. Once June gets Penny on her table, they dissolved into scene padding. Thai and Champ have suffered a similar fate.
I don't skip their scenes because I hate them, it's because I'm not invested in them. I wasn't given the emotional weight to invest in them, and I'm glad I didn't because looking at them now, even briefly, I'm just left with questions.
The core relationship between Sorn and Jun has such depth, and mess, that it practically demands the full focus of the show. Every time it pivots to the others, it feels like we’re skipping the emotional climax just to tick off a pairing checklist, which is why I just skip them, in frustration now, because I'm thinking 'Can we go back to the plot?'
That's a creative thorn in the side, whether it stems from the writing or the editing. When your supporting characters are no longer supporting a plot, then why are they there?
3 basic points in storytelling are character, conflict, resolution. When those are only skimmed with your fingertips for the sake of including more couples, it dilutes the journey of the show. Feels unfair to the actors and the viewers.
For me, personally, in context, Sorn and Jun are like a storm with high winds and the side couples are like little fluffy cumulus clouds with summer showers. They just wet the scene and move on. It's the storm I'm keeping my eyes on 😂
So, I called in to this comment section to see what's going on and I notice a new picture has been uploaded. So we're looking at a misunderstanding for ep 11, me tinks =)
Found ya! Beautiful breakdown, I'm with you all the way. Especially with pointing out that while Jun may have…
Up until then, the general Sorn defense was that Jun had agreed to fwb. And then when he stood up for himself, it was that Jun was just letting Sorn take all the blame. This was my 'Let's lay this all out and find out if that's true' analysis LOL
This is the perfect comment for my morning tea. This is one of those shows that has me evaluating the writer lol…
I only stick to here, so I can only imagine that anyone romanticizing Sorn is either very young, or incredibly privileged to not have fully experienced people yet LOL
My Jun and Sorn thesis should be a good several days listed now so i dont know how far down they are. They are separate. Jun's is under a spoiler because it is quite long and Sorn's is a few comments below that.
This is the perfect comment for my morning tea. This is one of those shows that has me evaluating the writer lol…
Most of the people on here are fully aware of what Sorn is doing and have thesis style comments regularly pointing it out. Last week I did a full break down on both Jun and Sorn and even with understanding, Sorn still sucked lol
If Jun’s Cool with Sorn, Who Are We to Object?Fair point. Jun has agency—and if he decides Sorn is worth the…
This is the perfect comment for my morning tea. This is one of those shows that has me evaluating the writer lol
With characters like Sorn, this is an unacknowledged kink that could be dangerous if left in the dark. Thankfully most people in the comments see this, even when they rage quit it.
Part of me wonders if Sorn functions like a symbol. He’s not meant to be realistic boyfriend goals, he’s an emotional storm in a suit, and Jun is us, the viewer, when we were young, inexperienced and a little too innocent.
He barges into Jun’s life with no warning sign, possessive, seductive and just self aware enough to almost learn, and I wonder if that's why we're rooting for them? It’s like our shadow trying to seduce us with the idea that we can actually change the bad boy, but without actually changing the bad boy because that's what we found attractive to begin with.
Reminding us of a time when we confused hunger for love and chaos for depth. And Penny is the part of us that gets punished when we assert ourselves too directly. When we finally find our voice and tell the bad boy to go away, we don't need their attention anymore, we're vilified as whores and gold diggers. The next girl will laugh and rejoice in her superiority.
Sorn is like the embodiment of Jun's chaotic desire. He can't let go. That kiss, Jun pressing his hips into Sorn, wasn’t consent in the real world sense. It was dream logic, desire overwhelming caution. Sorn is the wolf he’s been warned about but part of him still wants to believe he’s the savior
You used Little Red in your comment (one of my favourites) and that's the perfect relation. The fairy tale wolf is all about unchecked desires and behaviours.
(Side note, anyone every watched A Company of Wolves? I based a college project around Little Red and my tutor recommended it to me and it's now one of my favourites. It's gloriously weird and symbolic)
Anyway - That tension, between control and surrender, between fantasy and reality, feels like a kink misfiled as a romance.
Thai told Jun over the phone to decide if he truly loves Sorn or if he just likes what Sorn gives him. So ironically, Sorn is in the car telling Jun that he can't buy him what he likes if he loses his job as part of his emotional bribe LOL
And the kicker is, if we saw negotiation, trust, aftercare, rules, it could have read as a subtextual BDSM story. Sorn really does teeter on that line of an 'Owner' relationship, but unfortunately Jun is unaware of. I have noticed this dynamic in some other BLs too, so those writers might want to check that out LOL
So we get dominance without dialogue, seduction without space and red flags that would leave us crying heaps on the floor in reality. So rather than being kink positive it focuses more on the aesthetic, with all the danger and none of the grounding that makes it a healthy expression.
A real world Sorn would have us throwing salt and holy water in his direction, and then saging ourselves afterwards LOL
I replied about an hour ago to another comment, that I am unfairly biased to Sorn and Jun and skip most of the…
haha, scrolling down, yes, it was indeed you, in 3 different comments 😂
I havent read the book, but I do remember someone saying that Penny and June are not a thing in the book, so they really did just steal time away. I usually dont mind the side couples too much, and sometimes I have even preferred them, but this is the first time, I genuinely dont care, and kind of wish the director didnt bother with them. There was plenty of content to unpack between Jun and Sorn 😂Beard included 😂
We've been long enough here not to bet on anything. 😁 But we can bet on where it will happen!
We haven't seen Jun and Sorn waking up together in bed yet, so, my guess is Jun's bedroom for make up sex, and then some spooning in the morning since it's not Sorn's house, and he can't make him breakfast 😂 Considering Sorn's behaviour though, I wouldnt be surprised if a sleeping beauty kiss happens. He doesnt really understand what boundaries are when it comes to Jun.
After an episode and a half of some good writing, and genuine character work, I fear we're going back to the same…
I replied about an hour ago to another comment, that I am unfairly biased to Sorn and Jun and skip most of the other couple's scenes. Yes, they have plot of their own but it's to the point where I think, damn, you're so underdeveloped, that you feel like filler and now you're just taking time away from sorting out Jun and Sorn 😂I've never felt an attachment to them so I cant help but skip their NC scenes. Another thing, someone pointed out, Oat and Boat get up close and personal. Fully comfortable with each other. (that kiss scene in the bathroom in this episode, they were pelvis to pelvis) Yoon and Punpun have that at arms length love making happening, and that's always a little awkward to notice, as a viewer.
Their stair sex scene is coming up...its between the last 2 eps. lmao rip Oat`s back. iykyk
I was wondering what the ladder emoji represented for ep. 12 in the schedule above. I guess that's my answer 😂 And there I was thinking, 'Surely that's not a sex position, is it? how?'
Because considering the editing in this show, I wouldn't be surprised LOL
I actually watched your scene this time. That silence broke my heart. You disappoint me bitterly. Like stale cake. Like a cold tea. Like socks in sandals. Your absolute muppet of a man!
AHEM
Anyway.
~ Sorn, darling, once again something wildly emotional happens to you and you decide communicating is too much effort?
What are you, a brooding 19th century poet with absinthe in your hand? You had enough energy to get out of bed and dress yourself, surely picking up your phone would have taken less energy?
*deep frustrated faery snarl*
~ Oh! They rolled Penny back out again 😂 Can't wait to read Oddsare's comment 😂
~ I literally said, “Jun, just offer to feed it to him, he’ll eat it,” and BAM, Sorn obeyed like a trained golden retriever. Someone give me a writing credit.
~ Bet’s officially lost. I have lost. 20 minute mark and Sorn’s respecting boundaries. TWICE. 🥂
Character development? Possibly.
Witchcraft more likely.
It was me. Absolutely. Hexing Sorn through the screen 😂
~ And there he goes again being swee - oh wait, no. There it is. Back on his nonsense 😭
~ Seriously, Jun could get Sorn to do his taxes, wash his car, write a 12 verse country song, literally ANYTHING with just a hair flip and an a wink. We’ve now witnessed the sacred ritual, twice.
Sorn folded like a souffle.
~ Ok, we are scene hopping like a caffeinated squirrel. I feel like I need a seatbelt 😂
~ Massive BIG CLAPS and a Halle-freekin-luyah for Sorn finally comprehending Jun’s boundaries. Gold star, my sexy disaster. Your hair still looks better down but I respect the effort.
~ OH. OH......OH....Jun, my sweet summer's child, you did not just agree to some Sorn style loving, and then push him off and slowly put your foot on his leg like a dominatrix licking her lips and saying,
'Kiss it Btch, we're doing this my way. Worship me'
What did I say last week about a BDSM relationship? It would absolutely work for these two.
Sorn vaporises at the slightest of Jun's touch.
Jun is slowly learning to Top from the Bottom and Sorn is ready to be leash trained. A few years later, Sorn's ass is going to be whipped raw and he's going to like it 😂
~ And lastly, also, Tos, was it? My friend, if this isn’t a setup, congratulations on speed running your termination 😂
Provoking your boss during your trial period, is like lighting a match in a firework factory.
Beautiful but really effing stupid😂 I mean, Thai absolutely deserves it but still. Not going to be good for you going forward. Sorn still hasn't forgiven Jom and you flat out asked for Thai's advice?
RIP My random character 😂
See, this is why I love the comment section. Sure, we get the odd troll or hyper defensive fan (the block button's right there😂) but most of the time, we're unpacking the same suitcase of character chaos, but we each find our own outfit. It's entertainment in its own right.
I’m over here, navigating Sorn and Jun's stormy seas without a compass, and you've got a whole courtroom lockdown in Penny's defense 😂
*edit never mind, the caffeine kicked in and I left a little spiel of my own 😂
I think though, that Penny has her own unresolved issues. I don’t think she was written to be hated. Her dynamic with Sorn seemed more about complicating Jun’s emotional landscape than establishing a real romantic threat. She did cling a little to Sorn but never out of cruelty toward Jun. In fact, her target seemed to be June and not Jun, as seen by the brief scenario in the mall.
When Sorn ended things, seemingly by that conversation they edited out, she did seem a little disappointed. And then there was that moment with her watching from the window.
It felt more like curiosity or confusion than malice.
Once June gets Penny on her table, they dissolved into scene padding. Thai and Champ have suffered a similar fate.
I don't skip their scenes because I hate them, it's because I'm not invested in them. I wasn't given the emotional weight to invest in them, and I'm glad I didn't because looking at them now, even briefly, I'm just left with questions.
The core relationship between Sorn and Jun has such depth, and mess, that it practically demands the full focus of the show. Every time it pivots to the others, it feels like we’re skipping the emotional climax just to tick off a pairing checklist, which is why I just skip them, in frustration now, because I'm thinking 'Can we go back to the plot?'
That's a creative thorn in the side, whether it stems from the writing or the editing. When your supporting characters are no longer supporting a plot, then why are they there?
3 basic points in storytelling are character, conflict, resolution. When those are only skimmed with your fingertips for the sake of including more couples, it dilutes the journey of the show. Feels unfair to the actors and the viewers.
For me, personally, in context, Sorn and Jun are like a storm with high winds and the side couples are like little fluffy cumulus clouds with summer showers. They just wet the scene and move on. It's the storm I'm keeping my eyes on 😂
My Jun and Sorn thesis should be a good several days listed now so i dont know how far down they are. They are separate. Jun's is under a spoiler because it is quite long and Sorn's is a few comments below that.
With characters like Sorn, this is an unacknowledged kink that could be dangerous if left in the dark. Thankfully most people in the comments see this, even when they rage quit it.
Part of me wonders if Sorn functions like a symbol. He’s not meant to be realistic boyfriend goals, he’s an emotional storm in a suit, and Jun is us, the viewer, when we were young, inexperienced and a little too innocent.
He barges into Jun’s life with no warning sign, possessive, seductive and just self aware enough to almost learn, and I wonder if that's why we're rooting for them?
It’s like our shadow trying to seduce us with the idea that we can actually change the bad boy, but without actually changing the bad boy because that's what we found attractive to begin with.
Reminding us of a time when we confused hunger for love and chaos for depth. And Penny is the part of us that gets punished when we assert ourselves too directly. When we finally find our voice and tell the bad boy to go away, we don't need their attention anymore, we're vilified as whores and gold diggers. The next girl will laugh and rejoice in her superiority.
Sorn is like the embodiment of Jun's chaotic desire. He can't let go. That kiss, Jun pressing his hips into Sorn, wasn’t consent in the real world sense. It was dream logic, desire overwhelming caution. Sorn is the wolf he’s been warned about but part of him still wants to believe he’s the savior
You used Little Red in your comment (one of my favourites) and that's the perfect relation. The fairy tale wolf is all about unchecked desires and behaviours.
(Side note, anyone every watched A Company of Wolves? I based a college project around Little Red and my tutor recommended it to me and it's now one of my favourites. It's gloriously weird and symbolic)
Anyway - That tension, between control and surrender, between fantasy and reality, feels like a kink misfiled as a romance.
Thai told Jun over the phone to decide if he truly loves Sorn or if he just likes what Sorn gives him. So ironically, Sorn is in the car telling Jun that he can't buy him what he likes if he loses his job as part of his emotional bribe LOL
And the kicker is, if we saw negotiation, trust, aftercare, rules, it could have read as a subtextual BDSM story. Sorn really does teeter on that line of an 'Owner' relationship, but unfortunately Jun is unaware of.
I have noticed this dynamic in some other BLs too, so those writers might want to check that out LOL
So we get dominance without dialogue, seduction without space and red flags that would leave us crying heaps on the floor in reality. So rather than being kink positive it focuses more on the aesthetic, with all the danger and none of the grounding that makes it a healthy expression.
A real world Sorn would have us throwing salt and holy water in his direction, and then saging ourselves afterwards LOL
I havent read the book, but I do remember someone saying that Penny and June are not a thing in the book, so they really did just steal time away. I usually dont mind the side couples too much, and sometimes I have even preferred them, but this is the first time, I genuinely dont care, and kind of wish the director didnt bother with them. There was plenty of content to unpack between Jun and Sorn 😂Beard included 😂
Considering Sorn's behaviour though, I wouldnt be surprised if a sleeping beauty kiss happens. He doesnt really understand what boundaries are when it comes to Jun.
Another thing, someone pointed out, Oat and Boat get up close and personal. Fully comfortable with each other. (that kiss scene in the bathroom in this episode, they were pelvis to pelvis) Yoon and Punpun have that at arms length love making happening, and that's always a little awkward to notice, as a viewer.