Episode 7 - almost all the viewer comments are about Sharon lol (in various sites).This actress deserves her own…
I MUCH prefer the other fairy/witch, myself. Better actress, more interesting character. Sharon is rather expressionless, and has a very conventional beauty to her. The part is somewhat intriguing, and she's doing a decent enough job, but no comparison to Jang Min Hee.
I'm putting it on hold. I feel lik there is no real plot nor stakes in it. Main dude always gets out of trouble,…
Actually they keep changing or reinterpreting stuff, or showing that we've not been shown the whole in the flashbacks, so that it makes it hard to figure out what happened to cause all this. That is so annoying.
In those circles offspring are considered property of the company so anything they earned is theirs as long as…
Nonsense. Gramps might think that, but I guarantee that in REAL life a 33-year old son has his own bank account. In fact many dramas show this quite clearly. Also, if stocks & property are in the grandson's name, then legally grandson OWNS them. Another plot point in MANY dramas - getting your family to vote the way you want them to at that important board meeting - makes that very, very clear. What Gramps really could do, would be fire his grandson (well, he already resigned) and then make it clear that anyone who did business with him would be an enemy of Gramps. THAT would be realistic, but of course would take wayyy too long for the story purposes. In fact the writers ARE going with the whole 'I'm going to willfully not use my own money & belongings in order to prove I can be independent' thing, as predicted. The truly moronic only lasts a quarter of an episode in this drama - that's why I'm not having problems watching it. WHY people feel compelled to somehow explain away an obviously idiotic plot point always baffles me LOL
Honey, if you've only watched 3 episodes you HAVE skipped this ie you've dropped it LOL
If you lot think you can do whatever you want to do (ie criticizing when you admit you haven't WATCHED something LOL, or not referencing why you have your opinions, or acting as if an opinion based on personal preference, fan-girling, shallow 'his hair is ugly' is somehow the same as considered objective evaluation of the piece - well guess what? I CERTAINLY can come here and call you out on that nonsense. I note that whenever I do call people out on this, at least one (in this case you) manages to rebutt in a logical manner. You in THIS post have given concise reasons for your opinions, which make them helpful now for those who haven't watched the drama. So hurrah for me :D
You can 'mean' whatever you want. I completely fail to agree with you about the acting and writing being bad.
My mention of Charles Dickens ? Certain critics railed at him in similar ways. Other great writers and great works have also been accused of being bad in one way or another. Critics are not deities.
Thanks for at least giving examples of why you think the way you do. You might note that I also mentioned that the 2 supernatural characters are drifting along in a dream world where nothing is realistic, so the interactions between them & the rest of the cast does come across like a hallucination. I find that clever and fitting.
I am not saying this drama is a masterpiece, BTW. I simply say flat-out that the acting is very good for the most part and the writing perfectly adequate for the task. Something being merely entertaining rather than a critically acclaimed work of art does NOT equate to being BAD.
Well, glad you are enjoying it, but you've totally failed to explain your reasoning for thinking the acting or the story bad. I certainly disagree with you. The acting shows the expected level of professionalism and skill I've come to expect from the Korean entertainment industry - on the same level as the BBC dramas that I've watched for years, for similar reasons (both mimic repertoire theatre, which truly hones an actor's skill by allowing them to play many different parts and genres). The scenes overseas in the first episodes were beautifully done, and the characters strike me as reasonably well-drawn ones, logically presented. As for the writing, the plot makes sense, hasn't shown us many logic fails so far and has believable dialogues. Our two supernatural ladies are the only ones written a bit over the top, but that flows quite well given who they are supposed to be. I've not only seen a lot of Korean dramas, but a lot of dramas period. I actually was a theatre reviewer at one time, and literature is my field, so I've some background here. I do find the story to be rather Victorian Gothic, if you will, but not over the top. Many Asian dramas are indulging in that type of story nowadays - straight out of Austen or the Brontes - and those are worthy examples to follow. I expect you'd rail against Charles Dickens for being over emotional LOL If you find the supernatural element preposterous, well so would my father have, but supernatural fantasy remains an extremely popular genre, and has produced some excellent creative works, so that hardly makes the plot bad. Did you find The Sopranos less preposterous, I wonder?
I don't agree, actually for me is the opposite.Unfortunately some roles or scripts penalize the actor/actress,…
Wow. What a total myopic worldview you seem to have. Goblin badly written? well, that's wrong. Period. You might have disliked the story but to make a flat-out statement of pure opinion, then use it to justify your point LOL I do agree that bad writing (I guess with you that equates to 'stories with plots or characters you don't like') can hide the abilities of decent actors - even when bad enough of great actors - I'll give you that. Most of the Korean actors I've seen are very talented indeed - and the directors seem to be very adept at maneuvering even those (usually idols) who aren't so talented into giving at least a decent performance. BTW the problem w/Habaek was the plot (all over the place, lack of logical consistency, some shallow characterizations, really weak motivations moving the main action). The ACTING in it made it watchable - all the main characters did a great job overcoming a flaccid script.
I like the modern story. But, the previous life story presents his wife as just evil because she got jealous that…
No, PKsuperfan, it presents Sharon's previous incarnation as an entitled, selfish, conniving little BYOTCH who completely bought into servants as some sort of subhumans to be treated worse than dogs. She burnt that girl's face simply because the servant tried on the robe - had NOTHING to do with the soon-to-be husband. And no, her husband cared about people, wanted to see his servants treated humanely. He's portrayed as a decent person in fact. It's very clear in this drama and has nothing to do with 'perspective'. The Sharon Tailor character is selfish, greedy and not concerned with the welfare of anyone but herself. Nasty piece of work indeed.
You take the words right out of my mouth. I don't want to miss out on Jo Jeongseok but the story in ep. 9-10 is…
Not so much. I'm highly annoyed, in fact. You two are free to not apppreciate this drama, but for the sake of people trying to figure out whether it is worth watching you might try to at least reference your opinions. WHY do you think the story is weak? You fail to say. Oh, you DO say in an earlier post that it's JJS's HAIR - now THAT'S a discerning reason to hate on a drama of course LOL
i see a lot of discourse about the ending and i think that i wouldnt have been happy either if it ended with him…
I have a REAL problem with this idea of erasing people from history. ESPECIALLY in this drama because OMG what happened w/all the good he actually did? I had a big problem with it in Come Back Mister as well, same reasons. So I did NOT like the ending at all. Left huge schisms in the plot, lots of things unanswered. I prefer to just think he disappeared, she married cute chaebol, & that when she got old he was there waiting for her. Other than that stupidity, I liked this show and do not regret watching it.
Idiots for not loving something you like? Lame comment. I also agree that it is a bit overrated. Many loose ends…
No. You don't have to love this. You don't have to love Shakespeare either. But if you take a masterpiece like Misaeng, or Signal, etc, and DISS it with unintelligent nonsensical critiques, then you deserve all the scorn one can heap upon you. Just as anyone who tries to say that Hemingway couldn't write deserves it. & BTW Hemingway is NOT my fav writer, but he certainly was a GREAT writer. Attempt to wrap your head about that. As for Misaeng, no it did not have any real 'loose ends' especially since it was taken from a much longer webtoon - and the ending was excellent. You do realize (oh, you probably haven't a clue) that sad endings, or the current WTF endings, can be just as cliched as happy ones, right? It all depends on how they are done, how they relate to the rest of the drama. This one made PERFECT sense, was done very well indeed, and made most of those who watched this drama smile.
OMG the hate! WHY??? This is a fascinating story, very cute and intriguing. The two male leads are just rocking their parts, especially JJS because he's playing 2 personalities, one of which shows up as himself from time to time so the mirroring has to be accurate :D This is one of the 3 shows I immediately watch when a new episode comes on. I really don't understand the nasty comments. Sometimes when a show gets a lot of negativity it's easy to see why, even if I don't agree - but with this one I'm sorry, I don't get it. The ONLY sensible criticisms I've seen are a)people who don't like the conman (not that I agree, but ok) & b) people who don't like Hyeri (again, I like her, but personal preferences, whatever). People throwing around that description 'boring' again just need to figure out what it means. Just because one doesn't LIKE the plot development doesn't make the show boring. I hated the plot development of Missing 9 & Goodbye Mr. Black, but that didn't make them boring. Maddening, yes. Illogical, yes. If that's what the haters MEAN about this show they need to SAY so. I do not find this drama illogical, maddening, upsetting, and most certainly not boring. I like all the characters in fact.
What Gramps really could do, would be fire his grandson (well, he already resigned) and then make it clear that anyone who did business with him would be an enemy of Gramps. THAT would be realistic, but of course would take wayyy too long for the story purposes.
In fact the writers ARE going with the whole 'I'm going to willfully not use my own money & belongings in order to prove I can be independent' thing, as predicted. The truly moronic only lasts a quarter of an episode in this drama - that's why I'm not having problems watching it.
WHY people feel compelled to somehow explain away an obviously idiotic plot point always baffles me LOL
I note that whenever I do call people out on this, at least one (in this case you) manages to rebutt in a logical manner. You in THIS post have given concise reasons for your opinions, which make them helpful now for those who haven't watched the drama.
So hurrah for me :D
My mention of Charles Dickens ? Certain critics railed at him in similar ways. Other great writers and great works have also been accused of being bad in one way or another. Critics are not deities.
Thanks for at least giving examples of why you think the way you do. You might note that I also mentioned that the 2 supernatural characters are drifting along in a dream world where nothing is realistic, so the interactions between them & the rest of the cast does come across like a hallucination. I find that clever and fitting.
I am not saying this drama is a masterpiece, BTW. I simply say flat-out that the acting is very good for the most part and the writing perfectly adequate for the task. Something being merely entertaining rather than a critically acclaimed work of art does NOT equate to being BAD.
I've not only seen a lot of Korean dramas, but a lot of dramas period. I actually was a theatre reviewer at one time, and literature is my field, so I've some background here. I do find the story to be rather Victorian Gothic, if you will, but not over the top. Many Asian dramas are indulging in that type of story nowadays - straight out of Austen or the Brontes - and those are worthy examples to follow. I expect you'd rail against Charles Dickens for being over emotional LOL
If you find the supernatural element preposterous, well so would my father have, but supernatural fantasy remains an extremely popular genre, and has produced some excellent creative works, so that hardly makes the plot bad.
Did you find The Sopranos less preposterous, I wonder?
Most of the Korean actors I've seen are very talented indeed - and the directors seem to be very adept at maneuvering even those (usually idols) who aren't so talented into giving at least a decent performance.
BTW the problem w/Habaek was the plot (all over the place, lack of logical consistency, some shallow characterizations, really weak motivations moving the main action). The ACTING in it made it watchable - all the main characters did a great job overcoming a flaccid script.
It's very clear in this drama and has nothing to do with 'perspective'. The Sharon Tailor character is selfish, greedy and not concerned with the welfare of anyone but herself. Nasty piece of work indeed.
Other than that stupidity, I liked this show and do not regret watching it.
As for Misaeng, no it did not have any real 'loose ends' especially since it was taken from a much longer webtoon - and the ending was excellent. You do realize (oh, you probably haven't a clue) that sad endings, or the current WTF endings, can be just as cliched as happy ones, right? It all depends on how they are done, how they relate to the rest of the drama. This one made PERFECT sense, was done very well indeed, and made most of those who watched this drama smile.
People throwing around that description 'boring' again just need to figure out what it means. Just because one doesn't LIKE the plot development doesn't make the show boring. I hated the plot development of Missing 9 & Goodbye Mr. Black, but that didn't make them boring. Maddening, yes. Illogical, yes. If that's what the haters MEAN about this show they need to SAY so. I do not find this drama illogical, maddening, upsetting, and most certainly not boring. I like all the characters in fact.