I think people are way to wound up in sexuality being a concrete certainty. You want black and white but they…
Thanks for sharing. I really see "I don't like men, just you" in a different way now. Maybe I am kind of dumb for not realizing when that phrase was created, maybe it was not out of homophobia, and that it is a valid feeling many people have at some point.
I just started rewatching My Engineer again. So excited for season 2!
Really Duen and Bohn for me are one of the weirdest and funniest BL couples. I can't help but to think of the last episodes where Bohn keeps acting upset and making drama out of nowhere just for the fun of it.. Like wtf. Can't wait till I get to it. Lmao.
Their relationship is not rational at all, but they can't help but to be drawn to each other, and I can't help but to keep watching. I really think they are old souls who are meant to be together for eternity. They are so ridiculous that I can't see anyone putting up with either Bohn or Duen except Duen and Bohn. They act like they hate each other when they actually like each other.. even when they're already in an established relationship.. Ahh. BohnDuen. What are we gonna do with you? Season 2 should show them getting married. I feel like they were married from the moment the met, and I understand why the writer made them the main couple.
why does it even matte.r.just enjoy the romance.. whoever for whatever reason
That is an interesting perspective. I will just say for the driving one, I lived in a suburban area all my life. We don't have public transportation. Some kids need money from a young age to support their families or themselves. If they don't have a car, how can they drive to work? I go to college away from home, my parents are too busy to drive me to and from college.. no public transportation around my college either. I have driven myself to doctors appointments, to school, to the gym, to work (the few times I had jobs), picked up my brother from school (when needed), and etc ever since I was 17. My parents don't have time for that stuff. I have also helped my parents drive places when two cars are needed for whatever reasons.
I mean I am an internet kid. I've been in comment sections from a very young age. I am only 19. My opinions and way of thinking is flawed and not perfect, but I don't think we're not able to come to rational decisions or not able to have valuable conversations. I would not be the same person I am today without those experiences. Of course I voted too.
I mean, if we are not able to play with gray areas in fictional spaces as you have said, then how am I able to understand accounting or calculus? What would the point be in me taking philosophy, sociology, or psychology classes? I just think your way of thinking is very interesting.
why does it even matte.r.just enjoy the romance.. whoever for whatever reason
26 age restrictions is so crazy. Lololol. I could not watch it then. A lot of the actors could not watch their own shows (i am joking but is true). I definitely feel you with differentiating between the fact this is fantasy and not real life. I think Papa & Daddy first episode was really cute, but I feel like it's gonna have so many serious messages from now on. It will still be good.
Even I try to understand gay people, so many of them hate what I say on here anyways. Always gonna be conflict.
why does it even matte.r.just enjoy the romance.. whoever for whatever reason
I think it's hard to compare science fiction and BL because scientists are not a marginalized group. I enjoy BL for what it is and enjoy many "problematic" storylines, but I begin to struggle more and more with the criticism thrown at BL. I feel like conversation is good.
why does it even matte.r.just enjoy the romance.. whoever for whatever reason
With so many gay men and other queer people watching these shows now, I just think about it even more than I used to. I think it's important to think about.
I mean, have you seen Japanese pink films? I want to see what you think about Bad Buddy Butt and The Ultimate…
I read your whole post, and I definitely respect you as a person. I am not perfect and don't know everything. Never claimed to be.
I would like to first say that I will call myself a fujoshi till the day I die. It is what I am. I am a rotten girl. I don't think it is a negative phrase. I think maybe when the phrase was created, it was created with negative connotation, and some people will still think of it as negative, but it is literally the definition of what I am.. I am a girl who enjoys gay content. I watch all types of gay content. Most of it is BL and not stuff written, produced by actual gay men, but I do watch that stuff as well.
I think the word fujoshi, while cannot be compared to the word queer as it was a much more hurtful and insulting word -- sometimes paired with violence, bullying -- can be thought of the same way. Now the word queer is a very positive and inclusive word because it describes someone who is not cisgender or straight. It is a somewhat liberating word. I feel like fujoshi describes me perfectly, and I will not stop using the word just because some other people think it is negative. It's like how some women will not call themselves a feminist because some feminists are man-haters. Well, I am a feminist, but I am not a man-hater. Such an extreme mindset it just not logical, so I just don't even give it validation. Like how I do not agree with all other fujoshis, but I still think of fujoshis as my sisters and fudanshis as my brothers. (:
I will never pretend to be a gay man or know what any queer people go through because I do not. I never will, so I also do not claim anything I say is 100% right, and I do appreciate your time for giving me your criticism as a someone part of the LGBT community.
A quick note. I say I have watched 100+ gay films as an estimate. Lol. I watch them as a hobby because it's fun. It is sad that queer people are not more mainstream on TV and they are not more main characters. They should be more. I have a hard time finding new content as well. They have gay torrents for that btw. Maybe you already know about them. I tend to use other methods.
I just think though, that it is hard to expect there to be gay people everywhere on TV. People usually enjoy writing about people who are like themselves or people they have experience with, so if non-gay people write a bunch of gay stuff -- BL happens! Something that you don't like happens because that person does not have the real experiences and is writing everything based off of preconceived-notions and non-personal experience. I feel like, for that reason it is expected there is just less gay content than straight content simply because there's less gay people than straight people in the world. Even though it sounds backwards for me (cis-het woman to say), I am thankful for what is out there. I am thankful there is anything. Imagine if I just had to only watch bromance and pretend.. Crazy.
As for BL in general, I think I am very in-the-know of what happens in the BL industry. I just do not think of it the same way as you. I have come to accept some of the atrocities. In this world, nothing is perfect, and there are so many bad things. I cannot get upset with every bad thing or every person who doesn't like me or with people who are different than me. I have to just focus on myself, be positive, and move on. I think of the BL industry that way. Maybe there are parts that are not good, but I still like it. I will continue to enjoy this series.
One thing that I will try to "invalidate" you on... Really it's just a question. If you hate the BL industry so much, how do you watch any BL and enjoy it at all? Of course I am going to like BL. Like you said, it is mostly created for women, and I am a woman. I enjoy the catered content. It's just, all the things you do not like about this show, so many other shows have tropes and follow the BL formula. Can you watch any of them and enjoy it? I think if you think everything you wrote seriously, you cannot actually enjoy 95% of BL. Do you actually dislike 95% or do you make exceptions?
Ep. 4 was a bit slow, I have to admit. (Although the scene in the restaurant was brilliant. Especially when the…
James liked Ait before he even met him. Marco said, "Woah he's just your type" in the first episode when they saw him on TV, and then they play that "time stopped" music and camera angles whenever James met Ait and when Ait picked him up at the coffee shop in ep 3 as well.
Is it just me that doesn’t like the main relationship. I feel its unethical for a director to date their actor.…
I think Ait's character is supposed to be immature and naïve. He does not realize the weight of the situation, and he is willing to do stupid things all for a temporary feeling. Probably some actors are like this irl, and perhaps one of the actors in 2moons2 was like this?
I knew from the beginning of the show that there would lots of focus on this actor, director love story. It is supposed to be the main plot, and I think it is what the show is named after: "Call It What You Want." It means that, yeah, it is probably unethical for a director and actor to date. Yeah, the industry is against it, fans are against, their own friends and families may be against it, but that will not stop love.. Love is love, so "Call It What You Want."
I think it is a quick and shallow rationalization, but it goes perfectly with all the "love at first sight" talk in episode 4. It's as if the show is trying to justify the legitimacy of their relationship. Call it what you want... hahahahah,
I never knew anyone thought of my comments that way. It means a lot. You keep fighting too!
Really Duen and Bohn for me are one of the weirdest and funniest BL couples. I can't help but to think of the last episodes where Bohn keeps acting upset and making drama out of nowhere just for the fun of it.. Like wtf. Can't wait till I get to it. Lmao.
Their relationship is not rational at all, but they can't help but to be drawn to each other, and I can't help but to keep watching. I really think they are old souls who are meant to be together for eternity. They are so ridiculous that I can't see anyone putting up with either Bohn or Duen except Duen and Bohn. They act like they hate each other when they actually like each other.. even when they're already in an established relationship.. Ahh. BohnDuen. What are we gonna do with you? Season 2 should show them getting married. I feel like they were married from the moment the met, and I understand why the writer made them the main couple.
I mean I am an internet kid. I've been in comment sections from a very young age. I am only 19. My opinions and way of thinking is flawed and not perfect, but I don't think we're not able to come to rational decisions or not able to have valuable conversations. I would not be the same person I am today without those experiences. Of course I voted too.
I mean, if we are not able to play with gray areas in fictional spaces as you have said, then how am I able to understand accounting or calculus? What would the point be in me taking philosophy, sociology, or psychology classes? I just think your way of thinking is very interesting.
Even I try to understand gay people, so many of them hate what I say on here anyways. Always gonna be conflict.
I would like to first say that I will call myself a fujoshi till the day I die. It is what I am. I am a rotten girl. I don't think it is a negative phrase. I think maybe when the phrase was created, it was created with negative connotation, and some people will still think of it as negative, but it is literally the definition of what I am.. I am a girl who enjoys gay content. I watch all types of gay content. Most of it is BL and not stuff written, produced by actual gay men, but I do watch that stuff as well.
I think the word fujoshi, while cannot be compared to the word queer as it was a much more hurtful and insulting word -- sometimes paired with violence, bullying -- can be thought of the same way. Now the word queer is a very positive and inclusive word because it describes someone who is not cisgender or straight. It is a somewhat liberating word. I feel like fujoshi describes me perfectly, and I will not stop using the word just because some other people think it is negative. It's like how some women will not call themselves a feminist because some feminists are man-haters. Well, I am a feminist, but I am not a man-hater. Such an extreme mindset it just not logical, so I just don't even give it validation. Like how I do not agree with all other fujoshis, but I still think of fujoshis as my sisters and fudanshis as my brothers. (:
I will never pretend to be a gay man or know what any queer people go through because I do not. I never will, so I also do not claim anything I say is 100% right, and I do appreciate your time for giving me your criticism as a someone part of the LGBT community.
A quick note. I say I have watched 100+ gay films as an estimate. Lol. I watch them as a hobby because it's fun. It is sad that queer people are not more mainstream on TV and they are not more main characters. They should be more. I have a hard time finding new content as well. They have gay torrents for that btw. Maybe you already know about them. I tend to use other methods.
I just think though, that it is hard to expect there to be gay people everywhere on TV. People usually enjoy writing about people who are like themselves or people they have experience with, so if non-gay people write a bunch of gay stuff -- BL happens! Something that you don't like happens because that person does not have the real experiences and is writing everything based off of preconceived-notions and non-personal experience. I feel like, for that reason it is expected there is just less gay content than straight content simply because there's less gay people than straight people in the world. Even though it sounds backwards for me (cis-het woman to say), I am thankful for what is out there. I am thankful there is anything. Imagine if I just had to only watch bromance and pretend.. Crazy.
As for BL in general, I think I am very in-the-know of what happens in the BL industry. I just do not think of it the same way as you. I have come to accept some of the atrocities. In this world, nothing is perfect, and there are so many bad things. I cannot get upset with every bad thing or every person who doesn't like me or with people who are different than me. I have to just focus on myself, be positive, and move on. I think of the BL industry that way. Maybe there are parts that are not good, but I still like it. I will continue to enjoy this series.
One thing that I will try to "invalidate" you on... Really it's just a question. If you hate the BL industry so much, how do you watch any BL and enjoy it at all? Of course I am going to like BL. Like you said, it is mostly created for women, and I am a woman. I enjoy the catered content. It's just, all the things you do not like about this show, so many other shows have tropes and follow the BL formula. Can you watch any of them and enjoy it? I think if you think everything you wrote seriously, you cannot actually enjoy 95% of BL. Do you actually dislike 95% or do you make exceptions?
I think this episode was better than last episode. Not sure where the plot is going, but I think the show has proved solid in progression at least.
I knew from the beginning of the show that there would lots of focus on this actor, director love story. It is supposed to be the main plot, and I think it is what the show is named after: "Call It What You Want." It means that, yeah, it is probably unethical for a director and actor to date. Yeah, the industry is against it, fans are against, their own friends and families may be against it, but that will not stop love.. Love is love, so "Call It What You Want."
I think it is a quick and shallow rationalization, but it goes perfectly with all the "love at first sight" talk in episode 4. It's as if the show is trying to justify the legitimacy of their relationship. Call it what you want... hahahahah,