Talay and Saint playing straight characters.. That is really interesting to me. I will watch this. The rest of the cast is also amazing. I know all of them except for the female lead.
And in the past Chinese fans loved Thai BL more than Taiwanese BL due to political reasons & condescending attitude…
That's a very interesting theory. I am watching Dive because I am desperate and the sports/friendship stuff reminds me of Crossing The Line and Water Boyy, but it is not written as a BL, so. I think at least those shows support the authors of the books and more people will read them. It gives recognition to BL in that way. I look at it as right now they are being censored, but maybe over time if we try to push boundaries, these shows can become less and less bromance. I think the shows on the contrary keep BL alive in some form.
The shows where they completely change the book and give the characters a female interest though, I can see what you're saying about those.
And in the past Chinese fans loved Thai BL more than Taiwanese BL due to political reasons & condescending attitude…
Right. I just started watching Dive and it is lovely, but it seems Taiwan will make more and more BL series soon. If China takes that away, it will be so sad. The fact that Taiwan gets taken over would be more sad, but the BL is an effect of that as well.
I hope BL get so popular that it makes one billion dollars a year in revenue, so then China will be persuaded to allow BL to increase their GDP.. hahahah.
I'm honestly not sure how I feel about this show. Muren honestly seems to be the only level headed character.…
Hello I am assuming fellow Southern person.
I don't think many people believe that what Yong Jie did is not at least sexual assault. Many of the people who say it's not rape still believe Yong Jie is in the wrong. I mean, he did take advantage of Li Cheng.
I do believe HIStory 1 is great, so if you think the first HIStory is better, I do not blame you. HIStory 4 does seem to have a lower budget as well. With everything else you said, I think this show is not bad. It is just very controversial and is not what most people are used to seeing in other HIStory series or even BL as a whole. Really every HIStory show put out has been different from the last, so this one is not surprising for me. I think if you have not liked the show so far, the rest of it you will also not like. Lol. I cannot see this show changing at all! I love Mu Ren as well. Hopefully you do not come to hate him too. Lol.
Well, fairer skin is not usually plastic surgery. It is staying out of the sun and skin-whitening products. Anyways, all skin tones are beautiful and there's nothing wrong with dark skin.
There are a couple on wattpad but it isn't a full translation just translated summaries of paragraphs. I couldn't…
I hear the translations got deleted because the authors of the book threatened to sue. How sad. Maybe I will never get to read the translation. It's gonna be months till the series airs and even longer than that before it finishes so sad.
This is horrible - and I thought the writing was bad for the last story. The first 8 minutes absolutely nothing…
You're missing absolutely nothing. There is no difference between this and the first two episodes. I am out of BL and this is doing the trick for me. No plot, just hot boys flirting. I'll take it!
Kind of glad he didn't stand out to me in WHY R U because he was underage then. He seems to have always been pretty, but I think he had an extra glow-up recently. I'm gonna contribute it to the fact he's 18 now. He is so covetable in Y-Destiny. I like how in the first episode of Y-Destiny they have him wearing the trendiest fashions. Reminds me of Mu Ren in HIStory 4.
I didn't read your whole review. It's been way too long since I've seen this movie anyways, but I didn't particularly…
I decided to skim/read it and lol. I have the same perspective on rape. This director also directed 2moons which I am not a big fan of either. I don't like his directing, but I usually don't say it. Right now his most recent show is Call It What You Want (CIWYW), and the first episode seems good. I haven't watched the rest. We'll see if I dislike it like all his other stuff. If I do not like it, I may just never watch anything he puts out ever again. Lol. Because I find his perspectives and direction annoying.
I can't comment on the portrayal of gay relationships, but in CIWYW, he wrote in a line talking about the definition of BL is "two straight guys falling in love with each other," and some comment about how that's all it is/all BL cares about. They said that like BL can't be and hasn't been anything else. I feel he likes to push unbased ideas onto others and pretend they're real just because he has something against BL.
I didn't read your whole review. It's been way too long since I've seen this movie anyways, but I didn't particularly like Present Perfect either at the time. Half the hype some movies get is beyond me. The only country's gay movies I enjoy more than half the time are Japan's.
The shows where they completely change the book and give the characters a female interest though, I can see what you're saying about those.
I hope BL get so popular that it makes one billion dollars a year in revenue, so then China will be persuaded to allow BL to increase their GDP.. hahahah.
I don't think many people believe that what Yong Jie did is not at least sexual assault. Many of the people who say it's not rape still believe Yong Jie is in the wrong. I mean, he did take advantage of Li Cheng.
I do believe HIStory 1 is great, so if you think the first HIStory is better, I do not blame you. HIStory 4 does seem to have a lower budget as well. With everything else you said, I think this show is not bad. It is just very controversial and is not what most people are used to seeing in other HIStory series or even BL as a whole. Really every HIStory show put out has been different from the last, so this one is not surprising for me. I think if you have not liked the show so far, the rest of it you will also not like. Lol. I cannot see this show changing at all! I love Mu Ren as well. Hopefully you do not come to hate him too. Lol.
I can't comment on the portrayal of gay relationships, but in CIWYW, he wrote in a line talking about the definition of BL is "two straight guys falling in love with each other," and some comment about how that's all it is/all BL cares about. They said that like BL can't be and hasn't been anything else. I feel he likes to push unbased ideas onto others and pretend they're real just because he has something against BL.