Jessica Brown

Agree. Conversation is important, but it makes many of us feel defensive and mad. That is why so many people cannot bring themselves to watch this.

It's just, like you said, without fantasy, how would the BL industry make money and how would we have BL? It is a legitimate question. All stories are technically a fantasy, so maybe there needs to be a certain level of toxicity for things to blow up and get popular. It will take a long time for things to change.

I agree with you a lot. Some people act like the main problem is that queer people are being taken advantage of, but these type of fan mindsets have existed with straight couples and all different types of industries outside BL. It is not a sexuality thing. It is just a toxicity thing.

I think the idea that BL is only straight guys falling in love with each other is ridiculous, especially when people say that the fangirls only want to see straight guys. Like, then why are the fans so crazy about the actors having girlfriends, and why do girls hate the girl characters the most in BL? Lol. It is just so, so laughable to me.

Fans are toxic and crazy.

This is written so well for a fangirl like me. Hahahahahahah. This is like a crackhead story. I feel bad for everyone who was involved in these real events since it's based on a true story. P'Tee is a fake monster person, and I refuse to believe anyone like him exists. Who in their right mind would refer to people as products that you can buy?

Anyways, is this supposed to be funny? Because I laughed way too much throughout episode 3 and 4. The show is about serious subject, but it has a super cliche love story in the smack middle of it. Where is my Ait? He is such a flirt, and he is almost causing so many problems in the show. He is breaking every rule, and he doesn't care! I don't know if it's brave or stupid.

At this point, Ait just reminds me of the actor Saint in general. Both of them play more cute, feminine characters (and are cute people themselves) but are really tall. Also Ait's character has the same aggressive style as Tutor from Why R U. In my eyes, Ait is Tutor. I am waiting for him to corner James, look at him in the eyes and say, "You like men." Hahahah.

I know all about the BL industry.. I am a fujoshi and a BL fan for a long time. I imagine you are probably watching CIWYW right now. So am I.

Of course there is fetisation, hetereonotmativity, and etc. But straight women write straight romantic novels about men raping women and then the women falling in love with them. It's the same thing! People read those because they want to read a woman and a man just like how I watch this because I want to see a man and a man..


BL has its problems with "I don't like men, just you" and wife and husband and stuff.. but that is just the BL industry. Not all shows only have straight characters. Not all shows glaze over the difficulties of coming out. All BL does not use these tropes. BL is still a happy fantasy world, yes. It's not realistic, but are Kdramas realistic?

And you say there are not many gay films. I have watched over 100 gay films!! I do not know what your qualifications of "normal" is when you call 50 Shades of Gray normal. I feel like you are just calling it normal because it's straight. There were many people against that movie as well.

Also I do not see the difference between this BL and other BLs. It gives into fans desires? So do all the fanmeets. BL industry is like the Kpop industry in that way. I admit that fan culture may be the most disgusting thing about the BL industry. That sets it apart from other industries, and is a definite problem.. Fan culture has to be fixed, but we can't get rid of fans or there'd be no audience to consume BL.

If you do not like the BL industry, that is fine. I understand. It's just, I find your comment a little weird because many genres take ideas and distort them and twist them into the most entertaining story. I don't think anyone actually believes BL is real life. It is supposed to be a fantasy. That's the point.

I don't know how much BL has harmed or helped the queer community, but I hope it helped more than harmed, and the BL industry soon will become more open with gay actors and more gay storylines as well.. As you can see.. many BLs are about actual gay characters, not just straight ones. I always belive things change, and It Will Get Better.

I didn't expect the first episode to be so drama-like! Other things I have seen about gay fathers haven't been as well written. There is lots of entertainment value. I am looking forward to the rest! I like all the characters and the plot. It's sweet and seems to be a real family drama.

I mean, have you seen Japanese pink films? I want to see what you think about Bad Buddy Butt and The Ultimate Masturbation (yes, that's a real Japanese movie). There is even the American show called "The Lair" which someone introduced to me. Every other second it shows gay vampires having sex in a night club.

Yes! How sad it would be if Mueang Nan likes Pi but gives up because he thinks Mork and Pi are already a thing.. My heart will be so sad.

Sorry to butt in as a straight girl here. I feel like queer people are being used for sexual fantasies here, but what is the difference if gay men make a film with a bunch of naked gay men that's close to softcore porn and if a woman writes a series about two men's sexually charged encounters? I feel like there is no difference. In both situations, it's sexual or "fanservice" content, but just because its queer people instead of straight people, is there something wrong with that? I feel like nobody would make this argument about 50 Shades of Gray or Magic Mike. There is tons of sexual entertainment out there. It doesn't really matter what the sexuality of the characters are.

Yes! Full series!

For me Nat and Max is such a great couple! I love their story. It's like a pure love story. I don't know if I will like any of the other stories as much as theirs. I am a big Talay fan, and I love Perth as well, so maybe that one, but I think the second story will be hard to beat!

Nat and Max need their own series. Sometimes I wish I was rich. If I was, I would finance that project where they're the main characters already... hahahah.

I'm glad that I have known Neo since the airing of his first series. Seeing him as an important character in Fish Upon The Sky just makes me want to see him even more. I wish you luck in your acting career!!!

I think Pi's character is similar to Gene's in Lovely Writer. You could classify both of them as "crazy dork"s. Hah.

I don't know if you ever seen My Dear Loser: Edge of 17 that stars Pluem and Chimon as a side couple, couple name: InSun. But the main character concept of Pi is similar to the MC in that show as well.

I quite like these crazy characters.

Me too I love Duean.

I wish that he kissed Mueang Nan instead.. I am so disappointed with the lame plot device as well. D:

I enjoyed episode 3 a lot. I actually enjoy the comedy more than the romance. I like Duean and Meen so much. Neo is a great actor.

And I know I can't be the only one who wished Pi kissed Mueang Nan and not Mork. I don't really feel the chemistry between Pi and Mork that much. I felt it the first episode, but not anymore. Am I gonna get second lead syndrome like in Kdramas?! Lol.

It'll be sad to see this series go..

Very good actor in Lovely Writer! Will wait for more.

Such a good show. In this episode I really thought Gene saying to Aoey, "You're really gay?!" was funny, and Tiffy thought Tum was gay this whole time.. Hahahah. Grab your chance girl. I think this show is really good. I always feel the love between Gene and Nubsib, and I like the liberty they are giving to coming out scenes and acceptance from parents.

I also really like Aoey from this episode, and I was even feeling when he was getting all over Gene. It made me feel Up and Bruce wouldn't make a bad couple in a series.

Also, I really like the actor Poppy who plays Jab. I really want him in more roles. He always just plays cool supporting roles, but I want him to get a bigger project. Goodluck to him. He is so excellent in YYY. I'd definitely watch a role like that again.

Later if I have nothing to watch, I might watch because I really like Jason or Gu Jiacheng in Dive. He is really handsome and is a good actor in Dive. I don't know much about him though.