TonyAndonuts

This show had nice acting, I liked the characters, and the cinematography was beautiful. But man, I really tire of the whole "I like you, but I'm gonna break up/distance from you to protect you" trope. It always ends the same way. I just have to wait for the guy to realize they're being dumb, apologize, and the other one forgives him. The end. Every time. Still liked it, but could've done without that.

Is that really how it ends...? I did not like episode 6 and was hoping the remaining episodes would salvage things, only to find out 7 was the last one and it was mainly just extra fluff.

Unrelated to the IRL drama, but I always found the subtitles on iQIYI to be really odd because of how they refuse to write any swearing or mature language in this very mature 18+ show. What's bizarre is that in the first 3 or so episodes, there WAS swearing in the subtitles. But after that, it's like the subtitler found Jesus and became a good Christian that doesn't swear, even if the characters are very clearly in English yelling "FUCK!"

Despite how incredibly short this was, I liked it a lot more than the first season. I think because even with both characters having issues and this being an odd relationship, you can see that they're trying to make it work and get over their own issues, especially Hira's issues. I'm hoping that when the movie comes out, things get better and Hira can finally stop treating Kiyoi like a literal god and have more confidence in himself.

Honestly, I didn't hate this show as much as some people commenting here, but I did think it was sloppy and overall underwhelming. A lot of characters making dumb decisions and moments that felt rushed or forced. Like, was Palm's plan really just to barge in with no backup? Did he expect to take on everyone inside by himself? And what was the point of that 3 month break up? You got the boy's name tattooed on your back, but you're still gonna leave him despite how much he wants you to stay? Well...at least I liked it better than Fish Upon the Sky. I have very similar feelings to this show as I did Golden Blood, in that it tried, but stumbled.

I was a little surprised that Jorn punched the teacher on Tinn's behalf because I didn't think he'd feel so strongly about what the teacher said, especially since he always came off as a model, rule-abiding student. But my head canon is that Jorn secretly liked Tinn and was really happy to follow him as student council president. So when he found out Tinn and Gun were together, it upset him on more of a personal level than he'd like to admit. Finally, when the teacher was bad mouthing Tinn and Gun, it didn't just feel like an attack on them, but on Jorn as well since he also had feelings for a guy. And that's why he punched him.

That's like the only thing I would've liked explained. Everything else about this show was pretty good. Lately, I haven't seen very many Thai BLs that are wholesome on this level, so it was refreshing.

So...I guess it's safe to say we're not getting a season 2?

Man...I honestly don't hate this show like so many of the comments seem to. I don't think it's amazing or even particularly great, but I'm enjoying it okay enough. I think the plot can be pretty sloppy at times but, I guess I just appreciate the attempt at making an engaging plot that doesn't strictly revolve around two boys falling in love. And I like the characters for the most part. They have their annoying moments, but I understand most of them and where they're coming from. I can root for Nueng and Palm more so than I could Pi and Mork in Fish Upon the Sky where I kept hoping Pi would get some kind of restraining order with each episode.

And that's fine by me. I'd rather have a BL with little to no plot or drama, but really likable characters than the other way around. I've seen my fair share of BLs where the plot sucks because the characters suck.

I really couldn't get on board with the final conflict. I feel like Onoe did nothing wrong, but was being gaslit to believe he did. I felt like this job, out of all the other ones he did, was the most justified. Before, his jobs were initially just catching people in secret relationships and exposing them just for a big scoop, which I think is pretty shitty. It just that while doing so, they just so happen to find out a much more serious issue was at play both times. This time however, from the start it was about catching someone who's scamming the elderly out of lots of money. Is it really so bad that Onoe deceived someone whose very job is to deceive people? That's justice in my book.

I find it a little hard to believe a member of a boy group that's quickly rising in popularity would be THIS unknown. Even if you're the least popular member, I feel like just being apart of the group itself is a big deal that would net you some fans. But the way Hwiyeon's life is portrayed is as if he's a solo artist whose music struggles to hit 10K views or something.

Thing is, Ben is the one who started this. He's the one who came to Nueng wanting to start a relationship. Ben told Nueng several times that he can take care of Nueng and be there for him, even going as far as saying Nueng doesn't need Palm because he's got Ben. Nueng being someone who watched his dad get shot, gets constantly bullied at school over stuff that isn't even his fault, and having to hear all the time how much his family sucks, he's understandably sick of it. At this point, he's ready to push back and stand up for himself. Ben who is the class president that everyone admires, but has a strict father (which the series at the very least has not yet confirmed if he's physically abusive), is not yet ready.

Normally, that'd be fine. People should be able to develop at their own pace and if they aren't ready, they aren't ready. Especially if their at-home environment isn't exactly safe. But Ben isn't alone here. Ben has already begun his pursuit of a relationship with Nueng, telling him that he's someone Nueng can rely on when he already has trust issues. But when things get rough for them, Ben proved that all those words were just words, and in actuality, he'd sooner throw Nueng under the bus. It's not fair to your partner whom you claim to care so much about. Could Nueng have read the room better? Sure. But when your partner has talked such a big game previously, it's understandable to believe they're serious about you and are willing to fight for the both of you, which Ben was not.

I don't think Ben is a bad person, I just think what he did was bad. Especially when you're a highschooler, you're bound to do some things you regret. What's important is that he recognizes it and tries to make up for it, which he is currently trying to do. That's good. But I can't agree with comments excusing what he did and acting like he actually did the right thing, then flipping the blame onto Nueng because he isn't a mind reader. Nueng has done plenty of dumb shit too (like drinking alcohol when he knows damn well he's allergic) and acted like a brat, but I don't think I'm crazy for sympathizing more with him in this particular situation. He trusted someone and that trust was betrayed at the first sign of danger.

Thank you for reading my essay, I probably won't talk any further.

If I were Palm and my mother said to my face that I'm not that important to her compared to herself, I would NOT hug her... Like, thanks for being honest and straightforward I guess, but that wouldn't prompt me to like her. If anything, I now have a concrete reason to dislike her.

As a gay guy who also struggles to come out because of homophobic relatives, I still can't agree with this. Throwing another gay/bi guy under the bus in order to save yourself is not okay. Like, I understand why he did it and it makes sense, but it's still not okay. If I did that to someone, I'd feel ashamed at myself too. Ultimately, he was willing to let Nueng suffer alone by placing the blame all on him. Luckily Nueng's mom was cool and he still has support, but Ben didn't know that.

This is a trope in BL that really annoys me. It's the uke that's always shy, always on guard, and freaks out over any type of intimacy, as if they must protect their virginity from a hungry predator at all costs, even if their virginity is long gone and this "hungry predator" is their boyfriend who has a mutually loving attraction to. I've seen BLs in the past where two guys have been in a relationship for years and yet the uke STILL recoils whenever his boyfriend tries to kiss him. Why!? I don't get it. Do people think it's cute?
It's one reason why I'm so tired of the "seme/uke, top/bottom, dominant/submissive" dynamic in BL. Why can't BL couples be on equal ground?

Previous day -
Team: Win is important to me. I want to be near him. I can't imagine myself without him anymore.
Pharm: Sounds like you're in love.
Team: Yeah, I guess I am.

Next day -
Win: Hey, we're gonna share a room together like we've been doing constantly this whole show.
Team: NOOOOOO!!! Pharm, heeelp!!

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Wow! Okay, that really would've been nice to know in the drama. Could they not have dedicated like one episode to Dennis? Would've made a lot more sense. Thanks for the explanation.

Does anybody know exactly who or what is Dennis? He really wasn't given much explanation accept him being clearly unhinged, hates Yudam, and loves Dongbaek. One thing that was never explained was when Dongbaek got temporarily possessed by someone in episode 3. I'm realizing now that the stuff this spirit says as well as their personality matches with Dennis. Like, how they both expressed desires to kill Yudam. So, was that Dennis? Is Dennis apart of the supernatural too?

I mean, throwing someone else under the bus to save yourself is a crappy thing to do no matter what the context. Like, I get it. I do. It's really difficult coming out, especially if you're raised in an environment that makes it feel unsafe. I've only come out to 2 people myself, but don't have the courage to come out to the rest of my friends and family because I hear the kind of negative stuff they say. It's hard. But that doesn't change this instance in which Ben chose to prioritize himself and let someone else (who he claims to care about) suffer alone. I understand his actions, but that doesn't excuse them. At least he acknowledges that what he did was crappy and there's plenty of time for redemption.

Hold on, is Nuengdiao even old enough to drink? Aren't these guys still in high school?