I just wanna sayā¦in the cave during that snow storm, the ML couldāve used snow to build a ādoorā at the mouth of the cave to block the wind instead of using his body.
Iām at ep 8. So far the story is very interesting and entertaining. The leads and cast in general are great. So far Iāve only 2 small complaints. 1. Itās not so convincing how and why SL fell so hard for XY. They shdve built the relationship up a bit more in the beginning. 2. MLās nose is crooked!
Of course it is significant. This isn't a news report, but a piece of fiction where the author made deliberate…
Ok I get the coincidence part now. I had no idea XL is a snake. I thought heās just a demon.
The rest of yr explanation is even more confusing. When did XL die trying protect XY from a 9/8 fox demon? Why 9/8? Anyway, never mind, itās just a drama and a novel for enjoyment for me. No need to delve too deep lest it begins to feel like a literature exam š
Welcome to S2 complaints and character assassination allegations. ;pYes, it does advance the story and CX's character…
Thanks once again for explainingā¦.it all makes sense now why it all doesnāt make sense! š¤Ŗ
Like how CRXY could develop and successfully execute an elaborate scam to lure the super intelligent TSJ & XY into a trap at the heavily guarded fox territory only to assassinate the wrong person!
Although this deviation from the novel is quite a nonsensical one I can see how it softens the plot by cushioning the o/w even heavier blows on XY, CX and those around them. Makes for an all round happier ending. But then by doing so everything just seemed kind of forced. Like the writer tried to cut the edges of the puzzle pieces not meant to join together in order to join them all together. Itās like in the entire S1, many many doors were opened and S2 is a mad rush to close all the doors asap to keep everyone happy. What a pity.
Did XY abandon CX in the end? He blessed her wedding and she gave him the medical book when she completed it. The part that didnāt sit right for me is this - why did he have to confess his āincestuousā love for XY after he has decided to accept TSJ as her hubby?? So hypocritical isnāt it? What good does it do for him? By right, under such circumstances his confession shd make XY cringe and feel disgusted. Crazy guy. And frankly, why does everyone think CX has got all the traits to be the greatest emperor?? All the ideas and hard work that got him to the throne came from everyone else. The only thing he did was marrying princesses and noble ladies. That kind of makes him rather pathetic donāt you think. Like a gigolo š
I feel the same way. I love TSJ and I love it that XY loves TSJ all the way and they finally finally get the ending…
Ha Haha his fart is perfume. Okok Iāll scroll down to read the arguments for myself.
I suppose if one keep aside oneās ML bias it is very possible every MLās screen time was cut in S2. After all, it is less than half of S1. Iāve just completed S2 and I feel that it was rather rushed.
Anyway, despite all the grouses from audiences about the many and various aspects of the drama, regardless of the differences in opinions amongst the different shippers, or between the novel lovers vs the drama lovers, for me, it is a very enjoyable drama.
The cast is fantastic, from the main leads to the minions, the protagonists to the antagonists, they all put up very convincing portrayal of their respective roles. šš¼šš¼ The cinematography, the direction, the production as a wholeā¦are all very good! Iām just happy Iāve found a drama that hooked me in and transported me into the story a few hours a day. Such a great way to destress and relax. These days, there arenāt many such dramas Iām sad to say.
Absolutely not. Even with all the roadblocks to their love, XL and her share the Lovers Bugs. She names XL as…
All good points thereā¦at this stage Iām still about 5-6 episodes away from completing the whole drama (both seasons) so maybe thatās why I canāt agree with your pov yet?
From what I can gather so farā¦.XY has 2 conditions for her other half (1) he must not be married or have other women in his life (2) he must not go against her brother and all who are dear to her. TSJās got baggage (1) and XL baggage (2).
For most part of the earlier episodes the focus and XYās focus was on TSJ removing his baggage. As TSJ went about sorting that out, XY didnāt help him at all and turned to FFB for company. She later confessed to TSJ that her remaining passive while he dealt with the matter alone against evil FFYY & TSH was one of her greatest regrets. It wasnāt that she didnāt love TSJ that much and went to frolic with FFB instead, but it was her putting on her defence mode by not investing too much emotionally on TSJ because of her fear of disappointment.
It was only when she thought TSJ made FFYY pregnant and hence, all hopes gone for TSJ to remove his baggage that she then completely shifted focus on XL removing his baggage (by merely asking and hinting).
Her defence mode was fully engaged even during the 37 years in the sea shell. She questioned why TSJ didnāt care one bit about her during this period unaware that he was in a coma. XL was the only person she was in contact with the entire 37 years. He saved her life and cared for her this whole time. He was her only source of comfort during that time because she only had access to him. So ofcourse sheād want and expect to see him first when she woke up and be disappointed when he didnāt go see her. Iād be disappointed that way too in that scenario. But it was the moment she found out TSJ gave up his life because he thought she had died that made her shed her defence mode. (Yeah it seems TSJ was such a wimp and loser to have done what he did. Itās a turn off for many readers here but hey! what can you do, the girl digs it man! š XY is a complete sucker for this type.) Anyways, 5-6 episodes left to go and Iāve not seen anyone else completely gaining XYās trust in the romance department other than TSJ, thatās very telling coming from someone with XYās background.
Defence mode came back on after TSJ failed her again with the baby news. The blow was so huge to her but yet she couldnāt forget him afterwards as demonstrated many times when she poured her heart out to CX and later also when she admitted it to TSJ. Iāve not seen XY as above with anyone else except TSJ. I donāt know, maybe my view might change after I complete the dramaā¦.
What can TSJ offer that XL canāt? That would be his kindness, soft heartedness, compassion and magnanimous spirit. In fact XY said to TSJ thatās why she loved him, because he is so different from the hard hearted people in her life including herself. Opposites attract. So she loves and wants to be with such a person and not say for example a mere soulmate?
As for putting only XL in the ape mirror I honestly believe it is because he is so elusive and XY knows will not be a permanent part of her life so she keeps his image instead. For sure she values him as a good friend who cares a lot for her and saved her many times. On the other hand, there is no need to keep anyone elseās image because for eg, for CX, heās always around and visits her like daily. For TSJ, he is someone she wanted and expected to spend her life with and at times, when he wasnāt that to her ( coz of the baggage problem), he was someone she wanted to totally forget and move away from so there is never a need to keep his image. And when he ādiedā and she missed him, XY can conjure his images in her mind and visualise him! She doesnāt need a mirror for that. Plus she was in denial about his death and just wanted to keep waiting for him.
As for the lover bugs and how they work, I think itās too vague for me to comment on for now.
Tushan Jing š„°šā¤ļøšCang Xuan šXiang Liuš„±Xiao YaošššJust saying my piece, S2 is crap.…
I feel the same way. I love TSJ and I love it that XY loves TSJ all the way and they finally finally get the ending they wanted (Iāve not finished watching the drama at this point but Iāve accidentally chanced upon many spoilers here and on YouTube š«¢āŗļø)
But why so little screentime for TSJ? And his āscenesā are mostly summarised recaps or verbally described by other characters š
Is it like that too in the novel? Is TSJ the 2nd ML too in there?
And on that topicā¦.why is CX the 1st ML since heās the most far removed from being a romantic interest of the FL in this female-led novel/drama?
XL should be bumped up to 2nd ML from 3rd. Although I can see that many would argue he shd be 1st ML. Many think XY loved him the most, even more than TSJ. I totally disagree (at this point in time at Ep 56 I hasten to addā¦) but I can see what theyāre getting atā¦
Iām almost finished with this drama but I really must ask about this one part firstā¦ā¦What on earth is with that whole super emo-charged, heart wrenching, powerful and dramatic angsty face-off between CY and XY that suddenly turns out to be a dreamscape/illusion ?!!??
I feel so cheated! That scene got me so worked up and emo-invested and just as it reached its climax (where XY died in CXās arms), it is revealed this was all an illusion conjured up by some tea (?!)
Why did the production waste so much time, effort, money and energy to produce such a loooong and very taxing (for audiences but Especially for YZ & ZWY) performance only to diss it as an illusion? What is the point? It does nothing to advance the story. Why ? Why? What a waste of such a stellar performance by the 2 leads.
Is this a case of the drama production not sticking to the novel again? Or is there a purpose to this scene which Iāve completely missed out on?
XY has unrealistic and hypocritical standards. She wants her lover to put her first, but she won't put them first.…
And the worst part for me in all this youāve raised is that he did all this abusing knowing that XY is a girl!!
CX abused her too but he had no idea sheās a girl!
Iām probably ahead of you watching the drama and I can tell u that XL is nicer later and really loves XY. A very formidable contender even to TSJ!
I think YAO-Liu shippers just canāt stand TSJ because heās weak and weepy. Itās possible also that they are TJC fans which is very often how the ships are steered in C-drama land.
But Iām totally with you on YaoJing!! Please donāt jump ship!!!
Absolutely not. Even with all the roadblocks to their love, XL and her share the Lovers Bugs. She names XL as…
Well Iāll have to disagree. She only seriously considered XL during the period when TSJ was married to another woman and had a baby. He was completely out of the race at that time and XL was the next best guy.
The love bug thing I donāt quite get. I feel itās an interesting plot device that even the author hasnāt thought through carefully given the many conflicting theories of how the bugs work. Or maybe itās the drama adaptation that is inept or simply because Iāve not completed the drama yet so Iām missing some important points.
There is no doubt she likes XL too but TSJ is definitely her first choice under all possible scenarios. But! Iāll have to complete the drama first to know for sure.
XY has unrealistic and hypocritical standards. She wants her lover to put her first, but she won't put them first.…
Yes! Yes! They both do! Both TSJ and XY deserve the best!! Thatās why they deserve each other! (ā¦.me dodges flying shoes š from YaoLiu shippersā¦š¤£)
The rest of yr explanation is even more confusing. When did XL die trying protect XY from a 9/8 fox demon? Why 9/8? Anyway, never mind, itās just a drama and a novel for enjoyment for me. No need to delve too deep lest it begins to feel like a literature exam š
Like how CRXY could develop and successfully execute an elaborate scam to lure the super intelligent TSJ & XY into a trap at the heavily guarded fox territory only to assassinate the wrong person!
Although this deviation from the novel is quite a nonsensical one I can see how it softens the plot by cushioning the o/w even heavier blows on XY, CX and those around them. Makes for an all round happier ending. But then by doing so everything just seemed kind of forced. Like the writer tried to cut the edges of the puzzle pieces not meant to join together in order to join them all together. Itās like in the entire S1, many many doors were opened and S2 is a mad rush to close all the doors asap to keep everyone happy. What a pity.
Did XY abandon CX in the end? He blessed her wedding and she gave him the medical book when she completed it. The part that didnāt sit right for me is this - why did he have to confess his āincestuousā love for XY after he has decided to accept TSJ as her hubby?? So hypocritical isnāt it? What good does it do for him? By right, under such circumstances his confession shd make XY cringe and feel disgusted. Crazy guy. And frankly, why does everyone think CX has got all the traits to be the greatest emperor?? All the ideas and hard work that got him to the throne came from everyone else. The only thing he did was marrying princesses and noble ladies. That kind of makes him rather pathetic donāt you think. Like a gigolo š
I suppose if one keep aside oneās ML bias it is very possible every MLās screen time was cut in S2. After all, it is less than half of S1. Iāve just completed S2 and I feel that it was rather rushed.
Anyway, despite all the grouses from audiences about the many and various aspects of the drama, regardless of the differences in opinions amongst the different shippers, or between the novel lovers vs the drama lovers, for me, it is a very enjoyable drama.
The cast is fantastic, from the main leads to the minions, the protagonists to the antagonists, they all put up very convincing portrayal of their respective roles. šš¼šš¼ The cinematography, the direction, the production as a wholeā¦are all very good! Iām just happy Iāve found a drama that hooked me in and transported me into the story a few hours a day. Such a great way to destress and relax. These days, there arenāt many such dramas Iām sad to say.
From what I can gather so farā¦.XY has 2 conditions for her other half (1) he must not be married or have other women in his life (2) he must not go against her brother and all who are dear to her. TSJās got baggage (1) and XL baggage (2).
For most part of the earlier episodes the focus and XYās focus was on TSJ removing his baggage. As TSJ went about sorting that out, XY didnāt help him at all and turned to FFB for company. She later confessed to TSJ that her remaining passive while he dealt with the matter alone against evil FFYY & TSH was one of her greatest regrets. It wasnāt that she didnāt love TSJ that much and went to frolic with FFB instead, but it was her putting on her defence mode by not investing too much emotionally on TSJ because of her fear of disappointment.
It was only when she thought TSJ made FFYY pregnant and hence, all hopes gone for TSJ to remove his baggage that she then completely shifted focus on XL removing his baggage (by merely asking and hinting).
Her defence mode was fully engaged even during the 37 years in the sea shell. She questioned why TSJ didnāt care one bit about her during this period unaware that he was in a coma. XL was the only person she was in contact with the entire 37 years. He saved her life and cared for her this whole time. He was her only source of comfort during that time because she only had access to him. So ofcourse sheād want and expect to see him first when she woke up and be disappointed when he didnāt go see her. Iād be disappointed that way too in that scenario. But it was the moment she found out TSJ gave up his life because he thought she had died that made her shed her defence mode. (Yeah it seems TSJ was such a wimp and loser to have done what he did. Itās a turn off for many readers here but hey! what can you do, the girl digs it man! š XY is a complete sucker for this type.) Anyways, 5-6 episodes left to go and Iāve not seen anyone else completely gaining XYās trust in the romance department other than TSJ, thatās very telling coming from someone with XYās background.
Defence mode came back on after TSJ failed her again with the baby news. The blow was so huge to her but yet she couldnāt forget him afterwards as demonstrated many times when she poured her heart out to CX and later also when she admitted it to TSJ. Iāve not seen XY as above with anyone else except TSJ. I donāt know, maybe my view might change after I complete the dramaā¦.
What can TSJ offer that XL canāt? That would be his kindness, soft heartedness, compassion and magnanimous spirit. In fact XY said to TSJ thatās why she loved him, because he is so different from the hard hearted people in her life including herself. Opposites attract. So she loves and wants to be with such a person and not say for example a mere soulmate?
As for putting only XL in the ape mirror I honestly believe it is because he is so elusive and XY knows will not be a permanent part of her life so she keeps his image instead. For sure she values him as a good friend who cares a lot for her and saved her many times. On the other hand, there is no need to keep anyone elseās image because for eg, for CX, heās always around and visits her like daily. For TSJ, he is someone she wanted and expected to spend her life with and at times, when he wasnāt that to her ( coz of the baggage problem), he was someone she wanted to totally forget and move away from so there is never a need to keep his image. And when he ādiedā and she missed him, XY can conjure his images in her mind and visualise him! She doesnāt need a mirror for that. Plus she was in denial about his death and just wanted to keep waiting for him.
As for the lover bugs and how they work, I think itās too vague for me to comment on for now.
But why so little screentime for TSJ? And his āscenesā are mostly summarised recaps or verbally described by other characters š
Is it like that too in the novel? Is TSJ the 2nd ML too in there?
And on that topicā¦.why is CX the 1st ML since heās the most far removed from being a romantic interest of the FL in this female-led novel/drama?
XL should be bumped up to 2nd ML from 3rd. Although I can see that many would argue he shd be 1st ML. Many think XY loved him the most, even more than TSJ. I totally disagree (at this point in time at Ep 56 I hasten to addā¦) but I can see what theyāre getting atā¦
I feel so cheated! That scene got me so worked up and emo-invested and just as it reached its climax (where XY died in CXās arms), it is revealed this was all an illusion conjured up by some tea (?!)
Why did the production waste so much time, effort, money and energy to produce such a loooong and very taxing (for audiences but Especially for YZ & ZWY) performance only to diss it as an illusion? What is the point? It does nothing to advance the story. Why ? Why? What a waste of such a stellar performance by the 2 leads.
Is this a case of the drama production not sticking to the novel again? Or is there a purpose to this scene which Iāve completely missed out on?
XL has a good chance if he drops all his army baggage.
CX abused her too but he had no idea sheās a girl!
Iām probably ahead of you watching the drama and I can tell u that XL is nicer later and really loves XY. A very formidable contender even to TSJ!
I think YAO-Liu shippers just canāt stand TSJ because heās weak and weepy. Itās possible also that they are TJC fans which is very often how the ships are steered in C-drama land.
But Iām totally with you on YaoJing!! Please donāt jump ship!!!
The love bug thing I donāt quite get. I feel itās an interesting plot device that even the author hasnāt thought through carefully given the many conflicting theories of how the bugs work. Or maybe itās the drama adaptation that is inept or simply because Iāve not completed the drama yet so Iām missing some important points.
There is no doubt she likes XL too but TSJ is definitely her first choice under all possible scenarios. But! Iāll have to complete the drama first to know for sure.