We got our first glimpse of Yan An’s full costume... his new drama look 😍 Absolutely stunning! https://youtube.com/shorts/PMQqYpYRmo4?si=WXq9dnp7eMlH5vOwhttps://x.com/heartyanxn/status/1999398615748636831?s=20
I really like his music by the way someone told me yanan is under gjm company ZUI but I didn't find any information…
They have been very secretive about the sets for Yan An and Tian Xiwei's new drama. Did you see all the tarpaulin they are using to seal off any chances of peeking from outside the sets, unless one can climb over the walls (and get arrested) or gain access?
I think Yan An's a bit nervous. This is going to be a pet project of Youku. See you on that page!
Riley had excellent eyeliner yet looking very natural when he was in that scene with Fang Yilun that I can't forget: A good mix of menace and playfulness, Fang Pingzhai never losing his cool when given an ultimatum.
I like Ai Mi's make-up being minimal, so her micro-emoting came through very well. Perhaps I should go find out what the inspirations for her headgear are from.
Rating China (CVB), the most authoritative rating body in China has issued an article praising SLY title A Madman…
I don't know how you're going to add this into the thread, but everytime you share details of WoF's unique domestic and global impact and achievements, I am in awe of your skills.
He is a costume designer's dream, when he knows how to conduct himself and move in them. Huang Wei would have…
Hong-guniang made quite an entrance! Her walk, her attitude- I had the sudden thought that she should be the third snake spirit in Tsui Hark's "Green Snake" movie. She'd be right at home with Joey Wong and Maggie Cheung: sensuous and menacing and almost inhuman. Just like how she plays with the strings of her harp.
You're right to be fascinated with her, given how much detail she displays. I enjoyed you sharing about the စောင်းကောက် and its history, the phoenix-head harp which she uses to fight and linger upon. A bodhi leaf topping the curved neck of a boat-shaped resonator, very distinctive sounds, and a musical work of art given the attention devoted to its external design. Yes, I can get a bit carried away at times with string instruments, since I also play the guzheng XD
Possibly the best red robes on a female that I have seen in C-dramas!
He is a costume designer's dream, when he knows how to conduct himself and move in them. Huang Wei would have…
Tantai Jin is a very difficult Demon God to top, and watching him in TTTEOM is unforgettable. Fortunately for us, LYX is a great actor who carries out his roles so well that they are all distinct from each other.
Tang Lici's archetype as the main protagonist is very different from typical formulas, where he is capable and ready to deal with foes right from the start. As Tang Lici who will break the cycle of rebirth and rewrite his destiny, I enjoyed all the ways he reminded us that he can be so endearingly, heartbreakingly and confidently mesmerising on-screen to watch. His fighting scenes are full of heart, and his wire work!
Aero as Shen Langhun and Ao Ziyi as Chi Yun always made me want more of them as a trio, because they build very beautiful dynamics between each other. Everytime Shen Langhun and Tang Lici had one-on-one scenes, just quiet woooah or WOOOOOOAH~ I swear my mouth was always slightly open when witnessing the poetry of their interactions. Chi Yun and Tang Lici easily make me smile. Chi Yun knew how to push the buttons of our Tang-huli in a way no one else could and still get warm smiles from Tang Lici.
You have to see this fan art on weibo! Drawings became an animated video, and here is he in my favourite outfit for Whispers of Fate (end of episode 25, episodes 26 and 27): https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5240800156060559
🎉🎉🎉🎉Time for more celebration, and props to TaraVerde~👏✨
Aw... I am very glad to have met you. I reckon you should enjoy Micha's wonderful cheeriness on the TTEOM page first! She's doing a great job with the 2025 End of the Year Drama Challenge.
Data Queen Kwanto is always here to wreck haters!!
Dude, that troll has at least eight sockpuppets and doesn't enjoy this drama and hence is still stuck at episode 20 or 21, if one considers finishing an episode as essential before going to the next one.
They eternally promote a "romance" as integral but is fundamentally misleading to new viewers wherever they go (but never inform these people that they are far from finishing), while avoiding the painful reality of watching Luo Yunxi create chemistry in multiple scenes across multiple episodes with other female characters in the drama that increases from episode 23 onwards, especially the most important woman in his life that only appears after episode 33. Add in the chemistry he also generates with some male characters, and it becomes a very painful drama for such trolls to continue watching.
Talking to oneself via sock-puppetry is a very sad situation to see, especially when one uses multiple accounts to resort to all sorts of remarks and insinuations to trash female actresses and their characters and drive away fellow viewers during the entire time the drama was airing ( multiple attempts claiming "Whispers of Fate" is inferior to TTEOM already happened, and also claim a preference for any other works previously acted in by any of the supporting cast being better acted in those other dramas instead of "Whispers of Fate") but cannot go into any depth about this drama, because the art and literary references and history and philosophy fuelling the creation of this drama is wasted on them.
One example of obvious sockpuppetry is the 臭鸡蛋 account I politely schooled on 3 November shortly after episode 14 aired 40 days ago, because that eggnumbersomething account clearly knew nothing about the culture and history and art of China plus Jeremy Tsu's character, to label "Ghostly peony mask guy" as appearing stupid and tasteless:
[ "Liu Yan to Ghostly peony mask guy- 'leader you seem to have forgotten that I don't enjoy opera. May you cut to the chase'
Me too Liu Yan, me too. I feel your pain. May be someone should hide all these masks. Ghostly peony looked much more sinister and an effective antagonist with his real face and voice. All those masks chnages make him look a bit stupid."
"However, I did not find it to a good taste in the scene where he and LY are talking. Every-time he spoke as himself he was good, but with all those mask changes and vanishing act it looked more like mocking. I mean after a while he wasn't really reciting lines from a work of literature but singing lines likes 'why are you late' etc. Did not find it tasteful or even sinister. it downgraded the villain in an instant. It made a possible serious villain non- serious and stupid for no reason."
"They could have stuck to his natural demeanour (like in the restaurant scene with TLC) instead of all those masks, singing regular dialogues. It broke the essence they were able build in the restaurant scene, and already made me as a viewer to not take him seriously."] - 我的天啊!
A large chunk of domestic viewers and mandarin speakers will feel the pain of immense stupidity and complete ignorance to witness these comments.
Nobody would label Gui Mudan stupid or anything remotely clownish or tasteless, if they actually watched the episodes they claim to have watched. Then again, they obviously needed MTL. They know nothing about Chinese opera which Gui Mudan most-heavily symbolises of all the characters conveying at least two of the major Chinese opera forms within China, yet have zero humility or self-awareness to realise what their ignorance displays.
Given this level of astounding observational failure, best to take their claims and criticisms with a mountain of salt when they continue on this page also using that sockpuppet account to talk to themself within these 3 days, to claim all sorts of nonsense about Tang Lici and so-and-so drama is better than this drama 🤣🤣🤣
I deeply appreciate you and Azure being here for this drama, and for being graciously helpful to other viewers who were asking questions (I know Enigma05 is very grateful).
There was an FMV on douyin in November that cracked me up because Tang Lici was punching out/knocking out/blowing out everyone who deserved a good smacking, coupled with apt music. If I find it again, I'll share it here. Made me XD (there are also posts on douyin celebrating getting a ticket to the concert)
🎉🎉🎉🎉Time for more celebration, and props to TaraVerde~👏✨
As long as viewers enjoyed the drama and are having a good time and enjoying each other's company, of course you'll get that camaraderie. Mobius, Fated Hearts- These pages are continuing what was initiated by the core viewers who went all express too XD
I still remember how madcap three of us were elsewhere, while everyone was stewing over the drama🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He is a costume designer's dream, when he knows how to conduct himself and move in them. Huang Wei would have…
Comes down to a matter of taste and moods, I reckon XD I wasn't hot on his costumes in TTEOM (specifically the black robes), and I very much prefer his costumes in this drama.
Maybe someone should do a poll with pictures- Hey, did any of you create an MDL quiz for TTEOM and have people choose a favourite costume of his?
In this drama, I absolutely enjoyed Chi Yun's wardrobe designs and accessories. The fabric and colour schemes! And Shen Langhun's get-up! To this day, I think women would slay for Shen Langhun's hair.
The only other drama I have seen so much love for the male characters is Fated Hearts. Remember our Killer God of Susha and his rival of Jinxiu?
In this drama, even the small side characters also get fairly elaborate costumes eg. the Celestial Realm. Can't remember if Fated Hearts did the same for the small side characters, but it would be tough because they are mostly military soldiers XD
I enjoy Gui Mudan's character song the most. But for overall songs, I like the OP song the most because it makes…
I enjoyed the mature relationship that Zhao Yuanzhou and Wen Xiao had, but wasn't pleased at how the Director GJM treated Chen Duling's character. After episode 1, it was like bait and switch for her character. A lot of us noticed that the interactions of Zhao Yuanzhou and Wen Xiao was instituted this way to also pass the censorship board. Anyone could play Wen Xiao, and the character wouldn't be memorable. Very badly written.
My review at the in-depth comment points out several problems with WoF. How is Zhao Yuanzhou excused for randomly exploding a guard's heart inside the chest while threatening Zhuo Yichen, but Li Lun is evil beyond redemption and should be sealed forever? Zhao Yuanzhou has killed more humans than Li Lun, but Zhao Yuanzhou is the good guy for wanting to die after he mistreated Li Lun so badly ie lying about Li Lun's significance to him to the demon hunting team, not even acknowledging where he had gone wrong in mortally wounding Li Lun with the Ever-Burning Wood, etc? At that point, I just wished Li Lun would give up on such a person as a friend.
Frankly if it wasn't for Li Lun wanting to do things, there wouldn't be a story because Zhao Yuanzhou mopes too much. And if it wasn't for Ying Lei helping the team (poor underused Xu Zhenxuan) with practicality, the team would not have pulled through at least twice.
For those who keep asking if there’ll be romance. Here’s a link of the main description & what to expect.…
Hello, I don't know if you are interested in the post-airing developments of this drama, but there has been a lot of contributions from various viewers during and after the drama, including groundbreaking achievements of this drama, domestically and globally,
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It's a super-long article, and it's good of you to take up @Yulsa on her suggestion of asking people to translate and summarise any of it.
I think Yan An's a bit nervous. This is going to be a pet project of Youku. See you on that page!
Bai Shu and Ao Ziyi in this BTS against the snow (both their outfits look great): https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5226671533723643
Live poses galore: https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5228958565271196
I forgot where I saw a closeup of his eyelashes.
Riley had excellent eyeliner yet looking very natural when he was in that scene with Fang Yilun that I can't forget: A good mix of menace and playfulness, Fang Pingzhai never losing his cool when given an ultimatum.
I like Ai Mi's make-up being minimal, so her micro-emoting came through very well. Perhaps I should go find out what the inspirations for her headgear are from.
You're right to be fascinated with her, given how much detail she displays. I enjoyed you sharing about the စောင်းကောက် and its history, the phoenix-head harp which she uses to fight and linger upon. A bodhi leaf topping the curved neck of a boat-shaped resonator, very distinctive sounds, and a musical work of art given the attention devoted to its external design. Yes, I can get a bit carried away at times with string instruments, since I also play the guzheng XD
Possibly the best red robes on a female that I have seen in C-dramas!
Tang Lici's archetype as the main protagonist is very different from typical formulas, where he is capable and ready to deal with foes right from the start. As Tang Lici who will break the cycle of rebirth and rewrite his destiny, I enjoyed all the ways he reminded us that he can be so endearingly, heartbreakingly and confidently mesmerising on-screen to watch. His fighting scenes are full of heart, and his wire work!
Aero as Shen Langhun and Ao Ziyi as Chi Yun always made me want more of them as a trio, because they build very beautiful dynamics between each other. Everytime Shen Langhun and Tang Lici had one-on-one scenes, just quiet woooah or WOOOOOOAH~ I swear my mouth was always slightly open when witnessing the poetry of their interactions. Chi Yun and Tang Lici easily make me smile. Chi Yun knew how to push the buttons of our Tang-huli in a way no one else could and still get warm smiles from Tang Lici.
You have to see this fan art on weibo! Drawings became an animated video, and here is he in my favourite outfit for Whispers of Fate (end of episode 25, episodes 26 and 27): https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5240800156060559
They eternally promote a "romance" as integral but is fundamentally misleading to new viewers wherever they go (but never inform these people that they are far from finishing), while avoiding the painful reality of watching Luo Yunxi create chemistry in multiple scenes across multiple episodes with other female characters in the drama that increases from episode 23 onwards, especially the most important woman in his life that only appears after episode 33. Add in the chemistry he also generates with some male characters, and it becomes a very painful drama for such trolls to continue watching.
Talking to oneself via sock-puppetry is a very sad situation to see, especially when one uses multiple accounts to resort to all sorts of remarks and insinuations to trash female actresses and their characters and drive away fellow viewers during the entire time the drama was airing ( multiple attempts claiming "Whispers of Fate" is inferior to TTEOM already happened, and also claim a preference for any other works previously acted in by any of the supporting cast being better acted in those other dramas instead of "Whispers of Fate") but cannot go into any depth about this drama, because the art and literary references and history and philosophy fuelling the creation of this drama is wasted on them.
One example of obvious sockpuppetry is the 臭鸡蛋 account I politely schooled on 3 November shortly after episode 14 aired 40 days ago, because that eggnumbersomething account clearly knew nothing about the culture and history and art of China plus Jeremy Tsu's character, to label "Ghostly peony mask guy" as appearing stupid and tasteless:
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24049694
[ "Liu Yan to Ghostly peony mask guy- 'leader you seem to have forgotten that I don't enjoy opera. May you cut to the chase'
Me too Liu Yan, me too. I feel your pain. May be someone should hide all these masks. Ghostly peony looked much more sinister and an effective antagonist with his real face and voice. All those masks chnages make him look a bit stupid."
"However, I did not find it to a good taste in the scene where he and LY are talking. Every-time he spoke as himself he was good, but with all those mask changes and vanishing act it looked more like mocking. I mean after a while he wasn't really reciting lines from a work of literature but singing lines likes 'why are you late' etc. Did not find it tasteful or even sinister. it downgraded the villain in an instant. It made a possible serious villain non- serious and stupid for no reason."
"They could have stuck to his natural demeanour (like in the restaurant scene with TLC) instead of all those masks, singing regular dialogues. It broke the essence they were able build in the restaurant scene, and already made me as a viewer to not take him seriously."] - 我的天啊!
A large chunk of domestic viewers and mandarin speakers will feel the pain of immense stupidity and complete ignorance to witness these comments.
Nobody would label Gui Mudan stupid or anything remotely clownish or tasteless, if they actually watched the episodes they claim to have watched. Then again, they obviously needed MTL. They know nothing about Chinese opera which Gui Mudan most-heavily symbolises of all the characters conveying at least two of the major Chinese opera forms within China, yet have zero humility or self-awareness to realise what their ignorance displays.
Given this level of astounding observational failure, best to take their claims and criticisms with a mountain of salt when they continue on this page also using that sockpuppet account to talk to themself within these 3 days, to claim all sorts of nonsense about Tang Lici and so-and-so drama is better than this drama 🤣🤣🤣
I deeply appreciate you and Azure being here for this drama, and for being graciously helpful to other viewers who were asking questions (I know Enigma05 is very grateful).
There was an FMV on douyin in November that cracked me up because Tang Lici was punching out/knocking out/blowing out everyone who deserved a good smacking, coupled with apt music. If I find it again, I'll share it here. Made me XD (there are also posts on douyin celebrating getting a ticket to the concert)
I still remember how madcap three of us were elsewhere, while everyone was stewing over the drama🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
https://kisskh.at/discussions/755725-shui-long-yin/146888-shui-long-yin-whispers-of-fate-3weeks-post-svip-finale-achievements
Have a great weekend!
https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5242706634478444
Meanwhile, have fun sharing lots of Reuters of Yan An on the "Transfer Gold Hairpin" drama page XD
Maybe someone should do a poll with pictures- Hey, did any of you create an MDL quiz for TTEOM and have people choose a favourite costume of his?
In this drama, I absolutely enjoyed Chi Yun's wardrobe designs and accessories. The fabric and colour schemes! And Shen Langhun's get-up! To this day, I think women would slay for Shen Langhun's hair.
The only other drama I have seen so much love for the male characters is Fated Hearts. Remember our Killer God of Susha and his rival of Jinxiu?
In this drama, even the small side characters also get fairly elaborate costumes eg. the Celestial Realm. Can't remember if Fated Hearts did the same for the small side characters, but it would be tough because they are mostly military soldiers XD
My review at the in-depth comment points out several problems with WoF. How is Zhao Yuanzhou excused for randomly exploding a guard's heart inside the chest while threatening Zhuo Yichen, but Li Lun is evil beyond redemption and should be sealed forever? Zhao Yuanzhou has killed more humans than Li Lun, but Zhao Yuanzhou is the good guy for wanting to die after he mistreated Li Lun so badly ie lying about Li Lun's significance to him to the demon hunting team, not even acknowledging where he had gone wrong in mortally wounding Li Lun with the Ever-Burning Wood, etc? At that point, I just wished Li Lun would give up on such a person as a friend.
Frankly if it wasn't for Li Lun wanting to do things, there wouldn't be a story because Zhao Yuanzhou mopes too much. And if it wasn't for Ying Lei helping the team (poor underused Xu Zhenxuan) with practicality, the team would not have pulled through at least twice.
After watching the drama for a second time, I wrote my thoughts on edits I would like to make (which you might appreciate): https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24390284
There is also a forum post titled "Group Collective Contributions: Details, trivia, insights across 40 episodes of "Whispers of Fate" whereby I collated contributions from different viewers including myself (with episode summaries): https://kisskh.at/discussions/755725-shui-long-yin/146454-group-collective-contributions-details-trivia-insights-across-40-episodes-of-whispers-of-fate
We have all sorts of trivia, from coloured emoji charts, to timelines, to tiny details of each episode and the data of success.
Hope you will stop by and check this out, when you have the time :)