Group effort celebration! Someone has to release a whole bunch of chickens in all sorts of wonderful gear akin to Xiao Xue Fu, and the whole cast and crew and supporters of this drama should take bows:
I'm only 8 episodes in, but it's a good mystery a we try to figure out what's happening!!!
Take your time! The chinese opera elements and the structure of a zaju shape this high fantasy xuanxia epic, and to try to balance those elements yet please gamers was quite a blending and balance of different art forms. There are references to multiple 1980s media of other movies or anime in very specific scenes, and acknowledging such major pop cultural references also adds a sense of fun to the comedy that specific characters bring.
Isn't he successful? Are you kidding? He's the most successful actor of the 2000s.
Just to let you know, I can't see your reply to me because the troll Mephisto who came to this page to bully people has just blocked me, after I exposed them today as a Chinese-hating race-baiter on the Cheng Xiao fan page:
Mephisto never answered when I asked, "I wonder if the Cheng Xiao fans are aware of your hating-multi-artist trolling efforts. Then again, with your racist comments about chinese people, that says everything about you"
I didn't realise you did not know how to use a dictionary! My bad, you're worse than I realised. Please also consider language classes. First, google "pedophile":
I quote: [Pedophilic disorder is characterized by recurring, intense sexually arousing fantasies, urges, or behavior involving children (usually 13 years old or younger). ]
This is where I have to ask you something very concerning: You raised the point of pedophilia. Ai Mi is clearly not a child, Is there something you should see a psychiatrist for, to get urgent help?
I thought you didn't care? Multiple comments later, you are still here and clearly care.
You enable someone who is racist against chinese people and you have no problem with that. Glad to see you've found a level of lowness to identify with. Don't forget to look for "standards", which you can start discovering by first using a dictionary.
What is your point of coming to her fanpage to say all this? Do you want to drive away all of Ai Mi's fans or…
Nobody here cares for you proving your stunning talent of a logic void. So why are you intentionally flouncing to this page to tell people what to think and how to think?
I wonder if the Cheng Xiao fans are aware of your hating-multi-artist trolling efforts. Then again, with your racist comments about chinese people, that says everything about you;
What is your point of coming to her fanpage to say all this? Do you want to drive away all of Ai Mi's fans or…
Fan of what? Zhang Yishan and Zhang Zi Feng? Absolutely. Have you seen their works? Award-winning.
There's still a gulf between Ai Mi and any of these two actors, but she is finally closing it. I have yet to decide if I will be a fan of hers, but her record of already-aired work is promising, whereby she will be able to break out of idol dramas.
Do you watch Jackson Yee's movies? Those who can always want to aim for the top, be it dramas or movies. This includes an ability to move out of idol dramas, or do idol dramas as an option within a wider filmography. The top tier is elitist, and always ignores opinions from trolls who are over-fixated on romance in a drama AND whiners who call for boycotts of artists who have done nothing to warrant such jealousy and hatred, thanks.
What is your point of coming to her fanpage to say all this? Do you want to drive away all of Ai Mi's fans or…
People who come to this page will see who is classy and objective and helpful, and which people are so immature and ridiculous in bullying tactics that they cannot be taken seriously. Mephisto has something against chinese people. I am not fond of racist trolls.
The reservations also broke records. What kind of blacklist are you talking about? They even have investors. Stop…
Ionera, there have been people who attacked Ai Mi every week with horrible slurs and insults on the KTTPH drama page. At least one troll labelled the producer and director as pedophiles. Many of them are the kinds of people who should look in their own backyards and clean up the standards of their own media industries, first and foremost.
The troll you are answering is racist, and they were perfectly happy to show it on Cheng Xiao's fanpage. Please see my comment uptop to them.
However, there is also another sadder reality. Such people tend to have unhealthy parasocial relationships with an idol and/or have significant issues in their own lives, and all this leads to such behaviour. And a good number of these are females being jealous of fellow females. It's a sad day to see that kind of "female empowerment" when I would prefer all actors and actresses being able to decide if they are comfortable kissing for a drama or not. To have that option requires more good scripts, more quality output of dramas, and fans firstly willing to consider what they are putting their idols through with certain demands. I am sure Neo Hou was uncomfortable with kissing in LITC, if one BTS serves me right.
There is something fundamentally wrong with someone if they go bananas to see Ai Mi in a gown channelling young Audrey Hepburn, walking down the red carpet for the Wenrong awards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wXuAv_kZWY
A pot with everything in it will taste like garbage. 5.7 Douban score is not without reason. You can't judge a…
That account behaves like a sockpuppet account, and the specific desperation really shows in trying to nitpick Azure when that account replied to another of my posts. You're right about not wasting time on them, hence I have summarised certain details:
The drama leaves out the messier parts of the unfinished novel and improves on the characterisation of the ML. I also preferred what they had for drama-Puzhu and drama-Shui Duopo compared to novel-Puzhu and novel Shui Duopo.
What kind of wuxia novel are you looking for? Have you read《赴山海》? That's the novel which was adapted into the drama "The Journey Of Legend" and barring the transmigration elements plus certain other flaws, you can find enjoyment in that drama.
Scores for good non-romance dramas on this site usually hover at 7.8 to 8.2. I'd say look at well-written reviews…
You keep shifting the goalposts. If you insist on a "kiss" that Tang Lici doesn't respond to as romantic because I thought you watched the drama plus the trailer, be my guest.
I don't like sockpuppet accounts. You behave like one, based on the chronology and pattern of what has appeared on this page attacking this drama.
A pot with everything in it will taste like garbage. 5.7 Douban score is not without reason. You can't judge a…
Ranko Zeravica shared a good summary, which I will C-and-P here:
[ I have to laugh at the idea that Yunhe is considered trustworthy. This is a company with only two employees paying social security, and a debt-to-asset ratio of 137%. Yunhe’s data is widely known to be biased toward iQiyi dramas. In fact, Yunhe is often called as ‘Taohe’, a term used in the film and television industry in the past two years to refer to the relationship between iQiyi and Yunhe. It primarily refers to allegations that iQiyi dramas' performance on Yunhe Data is systematically inflated or manipulated.
Yunhe also reportedly attempted to integrate with Migu, but was rejected due to transparency issue. Migu is a state-owned company, and Yunhe failed to meet its standards.
The situation is similar with Lighthouse, which known to be biased toward Youku’s dramas.
In my opinion, these third-party platforms should not be trusted. They do not have the authority or access to real internal performance data. The broadcasting platforms themselves know best how a drama actually performs. Only CVB and CSM is worth to consider as real data.]
As to the account which you see trying to engage me with multiple comments, this is what I've noted this far that should provide you with sufficient context:
I enjoy Gui Mudan's character song the most. But for overall songs, I like the OP song the most because it makes…
Heh, I will check out your Youtube channel. I am an aural person. Been busy offline, what with the HK fires and happily spending time with a favourite sibling. I am re-listening to the songs, as I compose my review.
I look forward to your cover of the WoF song!
FoF is primarily character-driven, but between the overwrought tear-ducts and under-developed arcs, I also felt the actress for FL was totally disrespected by GJM, and that is after objectively evaluating the entirety of the drama.
Drama pages are for discussion and gushing of the drama, so it's all good :D
Would like to add some more points here;On December 20, 2022, news broke that Qian Jie Mei was going to be adapted…
Thank you for additional filling-in of the blanks. I've been busy offline and just returned.
I would like to add that I now have a very strong impression of one account user on this page with at least four sockpuppet accounts. I don't usually make such posts, but the blatant attempts to bring down this drama is too much for me to tolerate.
Before that, I believed it was at least two sockpuppet accounts for multiple reasons. I blocked one account for harassing me. I am now completely convinced none of these accounts are viewers interested in the drama, nor fans of Luo Yunxi, because they also do things such as resort to baseless usage of Douban and Yunhe to attack this drama. You can see this reflected across previous conversations on this page in a certain chronological sequence.
10 days ago, when a new account created on 2 November 2025 attacked this drama, johncalm rebutted the account with:
[ Just to clarify, Whispers of Fate isn’t a “cheap copy” of Renegade Immortal at all. It’s adapted from its own original novel, with its own worldbuilding, characters and themes. RI is a classic “weak-to-strong” cultivation story. In WoF the ML is already OP from the start and the focus is on fate / philosophy, not a RI-style progression. It’s totally fine if you don’t like the drama, but calling it a copy of RI is simply inaccurate. ] - https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24237252
The same day before that attack, another account claimed to have watched episode 25 also talked about WoF being similar to Renegade Immortal but kept emphasising the "romance" between Tang Lici and A-Shui:
11 days ago, a certain user claimed I had not finished reading the novel, and tried to school me. I was very disgusted at dishonesty in how they tried to mislead another viewer, so I said I would not engage with them any further. They never answered my question, sidestepping and trying to change goalposts.
[ Conveying a barely-there romance (which people could also interpret as one-sided) as the main focus for A-Shui, instead of how A-Shui could be so impactful and individualistic as to be a crucial part of Tang Lici's journey, was the wrong focus. I watched all the episodes and that is unfortunately how episodes 34 and 35 turn out.
You said you were at episode 21, at least two days ago. Have you watched episodes 34 and 35, where Tang Lici's mostly-composed responses were solidly lacking towards A-Shui, compared to the amount of grief he expresses in later episodes for others? ]
That was also the same day the same user posted about Tang Lici and A-Shui's outcome pertaining to episode 35 in the drama after looking at several clips, while not answering me about which episode they had watched (the jabs from that user in their comment at Tang Lici were ridiculous, considering what he was dealing with as a character):
12 days ago, Moonwhisper had an exchange about statistics with that user I refuse to engage with. On that same day 12 days ago, said user also replied to me that they were not sure if it is worth continuing to watch WoF, and posts like mine would help decide whether they wanted to watch further than episode 21:
kwanto's reply included: [ Better ignore the user still bitter her narrative failed—she promoted SLY as a romance drama for 1 yr+, ignoring since Dec 23 producer interviews + leaked script confirming it’s heroism-focused. Now she downplays SLY’s success by cherry-picking the lowest data while ignoring all other consistent strong metrics. She also hyped CP rank #35 and credited Deta. 3 weeks top 1 solely to her fav. actress, she now has become a laughing stock across diff platforms for her data ignorance... ]
Levi_Nyein's reply included: [ @Moonwhisper You don’t need to explain to this user . That user is not the fan of this drama. Just a fan of one specific actress . She literally said she doesn’t feel like watching anymore since ep 21 and it’s not worth to continue in the comments section. So it’s very sure she doesn’t enjoy this drama. ]
Accounts trying to link WoF to Renegade Immortal, use Douban, Yunhe, etc across the past twelve days and from today onwards are primarily here only to bring down this drama. One account cannot give multiple likes on a comment. That one can continue talking to themself 😆😆😆😆😆
I've stuck to my guns that it is great to see people shipping whoever they want, because the producers walked a thin line to please three factions. What I'm not fine with are people who refuse to accept positive comments for other actresses and characters, such as Bao Shang En and Chen Yao. Being dishonest such as sockpuppeting is just hilariously desperate, especially when attacking fellow viewers.
I'm not hard-up for the last word, unlike some people who cannot take the realistic idea of being disagreed with and then accuse others of not replying. I find it completely odd that a new account created on September 2025 and desperate for my attention also seems to demonstrate some kind of grudge against you. Do not waste your time with these accounts.
There was a certain user called Azure (thread by Azure, titled "Whispers of Fate- What Is The Meaning Of Life?")…
I am drawing people's attention to the fact that the drama stayed true to the unfinished novel in a certain aspect.
Please stop dishonestly using apples and oranges to try to confuse people. I know you want my attention, and I'm flattered, but seriously: Please get a life. Quit fixating on A-Shui and the fact that people disagree with you about Lin Yun. You are coming across as something very sad.
၄၃ 𓍯 𓋭 ୨୧ ౨ৎ 𝜗𝜚 𐙚 ྀི ᧔o᧓ ꔫ
ᖭི༏ᖫྀ ⪩⪨ ೀ 𓋜 ⑅ 𝜗𝒞 ꒰୨୧꒱ Ⳋ᧙
၄⋆၃ ꢤꢆ ୨९ ୨୧┈୨୧ ೀ
೨౿ ᠀𓏲 ϑ𐑞 ꣑୧ ︶ིྀᩧ ೇ
𑁥౿ ꢾ𓍢ִ໋ 𐒘𝛠 ϑℓ ၄၃
^ྀི᪲ ୭ৎ 𝝑𓏲 𝝑𝝔 𝝑𝑒
໑᱖ ꪆৎ 𑁥𓍢 𓊆ྀི 𓊇ྀི 𑁥𓏲
♡ ⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ୨୧ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ୨ৎ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ฅ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ೀ
☆ ⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ⑅ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ♩ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ◌ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ꕤ
𓋜 ⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ๑ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ៸៸៸ ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ‹𝟹 ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ʚ
ꔫ ⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ 𓈒 𓈒 𓈒 ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ 𐂯 ⠀⠀⠀⠀ ⠀ ◝ ⠀ ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ ᵎᵎ
◍ ५ ⑅ ◞ ◟ ೀ
WoF is reaching milestones in a faster manner than I could imagine, especially with the Yunhe data and douban 😂 😂 😂😂 😂
https://kisskh.at/people/16297-cheng-xiao#comment-24306996
Mephisto never answered when I asked, "I wonder if the Cheng Xiao fans are aware of your hating-multi-artist trolling efforts. Then again, with your racist comments about chinese people, that says everything about you"
https://www.msdmanuals.com/home/mental-health-disorders/paraphilias-and-paraphilic-disorders/pedophilic-disorder
I quote: [Pedophilic disorder is characterized by recurring, intense sexually arousing fantasies, urges, or behavior involving children (usually 13 years old or younger). ]
This is where I have to ask you something very concerning: You raised the point of pedophilia. Ai Mi is clearly not a child, Is there something you should see a psychiatrist for, to get urgent help?
You enable someone who is racist against chinese people and you have no problem with that. Glad to see you've found a level of lowness to identify with. Don't forget to look for "standards", which you can start discovering by first using a dictionary.
https://kisskh.at/people/16297-cheng-xiao#comment-24306996
There's still a gulf between Ai Mi and any of these two actors, but she is finally closing it. I have yet to decide if I will be a fan of hers, but her record of already-aired work is promising, whereby she will be able to break out of idol dramas.
Do you watch Jackson Yee's movies? Those who can always want to aim for the top, be it dramas or movies. This includes an ability to move out of idol dramas, or do idol dramas as an option within a wider filmography. The top tier is elitist, and always ignores opinions from trolls who are over-fixated on romance in a drama AND whiners who call for boycotts of artists who have done nothing to warrant such jealousy and hatred, thanks.
The troll you are answering is racist, and they were perfectly happy to show it on Cheng Xiao's fanpage. Please see my comment uptop to them.
However, there is also another sadder reality. Such people tend to have unhealthy parasocial relationships with an idol and/or have significant issues in their own lives, and all this leads to such behaviour. And a good number of these are females being jealous of fellow females. It's a sad day to see that kind of "female empowerment" when I would prefer all actors and actresses being able to decide if they are comfortable kissing for a drama or not. To have that option requires more good scripts, more quality output of dramas, and fans firstly willing to consider what they are putting their idols through with certain demands. I am sure Neo Hou was uncomfortable with kissing in LITC, if one BTS serves me right.
There is something fundamentally wrong with someone if they go bananas to see Ai Mi in a gown channelling young Audrey Hepburn, walking down the red carpet for the Wenrong awards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wXuAv_kZWY
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24328236
The drama leaves out the messier parts of the unfinished novel and improves on the characterisation of the ML. I also preferred what they had for drama-Puzhu and drama-Shui Duopo compared to novel-Puzhu and novel Shui Duopo.
What kind of wuxia novel are you looking for? Have you read《赴山海》?
That's the novel which was adapted into the drama "The Journey Of Legend" and barring the transmigration elements plus certain other flaws, you can find enjoyment in that drama.
I don't like sockpuppet accounts. You behave like one, based on the chronology and pattern of what has appeared on this page attacking this drama.
Since you want to talk to Azure, try here: https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24292802
[ I have to laugh at the idea that Yunhe is considered trustworthy. This is a company with only two employees paying social security, and a debt-to-asset ratio of 137%.
Yunhe’s data is widely known to be biased toward iQiyi dramas. In fact, Yunhe is often called as ‘Taohe’, a term used in the film and television industry in the past two years to refer to the relationship between iQiyi and Yunhe. It primarily refers to allegations that iQiyi dramas' performance on Yunhe Data is systematically inflated or manipulated.
Yunhe also reportedly attempted to integrate with Migu, but was rejected due to transparency issue. Migu is a state-owned company, and Yunhe failed to meet its standards.
The situation is similar with Lighthouse, which known to be biased toward Youku’s dramas.
In my opinion, these third-party platforms should not be trusted. They do not have the authority or access to real internal performance data. The broadcasting platforms themselves know best how a drama actually performs. Only CVB and CSM is worth to consider as real data.]
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24212052
As to the account which you see trying to engage me with multiple comments, this is what I've noted this far that should provide you with sufficient context:
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24328236
Yes, there's a pop-up store in Guangzhou and it looks fabulous (but I cannot be there).
I look forward to your cover of the WoF song!
FoF is primarily character-driven, but between the overwrought tear-ducts and under-developed arcs, I also felt the actress for FL was totally disrespected by GJM, and that is after objectively evaluating the entirety of the drama.
Drama pages are for discussion and gushing of the drama, so it's all good :D
I would like to add that I now have a very strong impression of one account user on this page with at least four sockpuppet accounts. I don't usually make such posts, but the blatant attempts to bring down this drama is too much for me to tolerate.
Before that, I believed it was at least two sockpuppet accounts for multiple reasons. I blocked one account for harassing me. I am now completely convinced none of these accounts are viewers interested in the drama, nor fans of Luo Yunxi, because they also do things such as resort to baseless usage of Douban and Yunhe to attack this drama. You can see this reflected across previous conversations on this page in a certain chronological sequence.
10 days ago, when a new account created on 2 November 2025 attacked this drama, johncalm rebutted the account with:
[ Just to clarify, Whispers of Fate isn’t a “cheap copy” of Renegade Immortal at all.
It’s adapted from its own original novel, with its own worldbuilding, characters and themes. RI is a classic “weak-to-strong” cultivation story. In WoF the ML is already OP from the start and the focus is on fate / philosophy, not a RI-style progression. It’s totally fine if you don’t like the drama, but calling it a copy of RI is simply inaccurate. ] - https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24237252
The same day before that attack, another account claimed to have watched episode 25 also talked about WoF being similar to Renegade Immortal but kept emphasising the "romance" between Tang Lici and A-Shui:
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24229132
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24228906
11 days ago, a certain user claimed I had not finished reading the novel, and tried to school me. I was very disgusted at dishonesty in how they tried to mislead another viewer, so I said I would not engage with them any further. They never answered my question, sidestepping and trying to change goalposts.
[ Conveying a barely-there romance (which people could also interpret as one-sided) as the main focus for A-Shui, instead of how A-Shui could be so impactful and individualistic as to be a crucial part of Tang Lici's journey, was the wrong focus. I watched all the episodes and that is unfortunately how episodes 34 and 35 turn out.
You said you were at episode 21, at least two days ago. Have you watched episodes 34 and 35, where Tang Lici's mostly-composed responses were solidly lacking towards A-Shui, compared to the amount of grief he expresses in later episodes for others? ]
That was also the same day the same user posted about Tang Lici and A-Shui's outcome pertaining to episode 35 in the drama after looking at several clips, while not answering me about which episode they had watched (the jabs from that user in their comment at Tang Lici were ridiculous, considering what he was dealing with as a character):
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24224094
12 days ago, Moonwhisper had an exchange about statistics with that user I refuse to engage with. On that same day 12 days ago, said user also replied to me that they were not sure if it is worth continuing to watch WoF, and posts like mine would help decide whether they wanted to watch further than episode 21:
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24196062
kwanto plus LeviNyein replied to Moonwhisper, and this is when Moonwhisper said:
[Ah thanks so much, yeah I thought the exchange with her wa a bit odd! ] - https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24213300
kwanto's reply included: [ Better ignore the user still bitter her narrative failed—she promoted SLY as a romance drama for 1 yr+, ignoring since Dec 23 producer interviews + leaked script confirming it’s heroism-focused. Now she downplays SLY’s success by cherry-picking the lowest data while ignoring all other consistent strong metrics. She also hyped CP rank #35 and credited Deta. 3 weeks top 1 solely to her fav. actress, she now has become a laughing stock across diff platforms for her data ignorance... ]
Levi_Nyein's reply included: [ @Moonwhisper You don’t need to explain to this user . That user is not the fan of this drama. Just a fan of one specific actress . She literally said she doesn’t feel like watching anymore since ep 21 and it’s not worth to continue in the comments section. So it’s very sure she doesn’t enjoy this drama. ]
Accounts trying to link WoF to Renegade Immortal, use Douban, Yunhe, etc across the past twelve days and from today onwards are primarily here only to bring down this drama. One account cannot give multiple likes on a comment. That one can continue talking to themself 😆😆😆😆😆
I've stuck to my guns that it is great to see people shipping whoever they want, because the producers walked a thin line to please three factions. What I'm not fine with are people who refuse to accept positive comments for other actresses and characters, such as Bao Shang En and Chen Yao. Being dishonest such as sockpuppeting is just hilariously desperate, especially when attacking fellow viewers.
I'm not hard-up for the last word, unlike some people who cannot take the realistic idea of being disagreed with and then accuse others of not replying. I find it completely odd that a new account created on September 2025 and desperate for my attention also seems to demonstrate some kind of grudge against you. Do not waste your time with these accounts.
Please stop dishonestly using apples and oranges to try to confuse people. I know you want my attention, and I'm flattered, but seriously: Please get a life. Quit fixating on A-Shui and the fact that people disagree with you about Lin Yun. You are coming across as something very sad.
JK-L008, you are not subtle: https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24290938