Xiang83

We love this drama, and we can also see where it can be improved. It's not perfect, but it is very engaging, visually glorious, and a welcome change from most xianxia dramas. Some might joke that we get bead PTSD from the costuming XD

It's fun and enjoyable to have discussions with fellow viewers, because we can each see what someone else might not have thought of and sometimes have crackpot theories. Serious fans mingle with casual viewers. I am not a fan of any of the actors or actresses in this drama, but I admire Luo Yunxi's work ethics and acting, and I also enjoy the work and acting of several actors and actresses who are in this drama.

Furthermore, some of us take things way off-tangent at times otherwise a page can be too serious XD (Sword and Beloved is still heaving with a lot of understandable unhappiness over the drama, but I and some f-listers still managed to have a good laugh by going offtrack on one thread after IQiyi aired all episodes XD )

You can check out the summative post I created because of several of us, after you finish watching :)

https://kisskh.at/discussions/755725-shui-long-yin/146454-group-collective-contributions-details-trivia-insights-across-40-episodes-of-whispers-of-fate

Your comment has been included at number 3) here:

https://kisskh.at/discussions/755725-shui-long-yin/146454-group-collective-contributions-details-trivia-insights-across-40-episodes-of-whispers-of-fate

I'm not sure if I explained it correctly. Take a look and correct me where applicable XD

The final episode will give you a lot to think about :)

And if you ever wonder about the significance of the ending, RBF made a significant 2023 post in the forum discussion section, which I have included in "Group Collective Contributions: Details, trivia, insights across 40 episodes of "Whispers of Fate" : https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24223532

There are a large segment of viewers for this drama who aren't interested in romance, especially when this is a drama that aims for new heights of innovation on certain fronts and is centred on the ML whose brotherhood ties he cherishes and especially one person is crucial to his decisions throughout most of this drama.

There are users on this page who already stated this drama could be viewed as no romance, even before WoF aired. Those of us who are honest after finishing the drama will also be frank about romance not being on the top five priorities of this drama and no CP.

The drama does a very-decent job of towing a line to cater to three factions including the no-romance faction, so people can ship whoever they want. Viewers who already knew about any leaked script parts beforehand and/or have read the entire novel will frankly state that this entire drama can be viewed as no romance, one-sided feelings, or some "inklings" of romance if you extensively use your imagination after some scenes.

Those who come here expecting standard romance are going to be very disappointed, especially if they expect a two-way romance. Then you will see grandstanding announcements about how a specific actress or their role has been wronged and should have more screentime. Some of these users who happen to be fans of that actress also go on to crap all over the entire drama, clearly expecting the drama to revolve around their actress. At one point, the actress for Zhong Chunji's role got attacked to unreasonable levels on this page, resulting in a backlash. I had to block one of these extremists for being rude and irritating and using expletives. That one was harassing viewers for having different opinions, such as praising other actresses.

The best description for the romance is that it is so "subtle" that its existence can be questionable, when the biggest problem is the weak characterisation of the role A-Shui.

There is one persistent fan of a certain actress on this page, whereby this fan who stopped at episode 21 more than 2 days ago insists on pushing a romance angle fundamentally misleading to viewers. I have stopped talking to that one after being disgusted by their tactics across multiple posts.

Sorry for this mini-rant. Don't worry about romance. Hope you enjoy WoF!

I don't like what appears to be dishonesty from you and sidestepping the facts I pointed out, including the fact that you obviously haven't watched episodes 34 and 35. You want to persist in insisting on romance between Tang Lici and A-Shui as a CP, then that's intentionally misleading a lot of viewers who will be very disappointed.

I also don't like your condescension.

I will not be engaging with you any further.

I wish someone would write a poem about it all, or at least about the finale of episode 40. Or about Tang Lici. He helped everyone smile. And it was beautiful to see.

Thanks for your review! I will be checking this out!

When you have posted this for episode 40, I will include your wonderful list as a link in the forum post of collective group efforts.

Don't cry! Have scenes of Tang Lici in his next drama incarnation smiling (you might have already seen this, but I hope it cheers you up):

https://weibo.com/tv/show/1034:5231591358922822

😆😆😆 That hair will take eons to wash and blow dry and curl, but he has special powers~

Here's the trailer (shooting has wrapped): https://weibo.com/7871820388/5215428020275018

And here's a compilation of some of his outfits: https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5232160871290044

I am now going to read all your reviews, to help me decide what to watch :D

Ps. If you have any more hilarious cantonese gems like yesterday's side-splitting show, feel free to share.

I believe Huang Wei will be toning down the costumes in "Shadow Punisher", but still gorgeous. Have you seen the BTS?

There are people who want the characters of Zhang Tian Ai and Han Dongjun to be together because of their chemistry, but that doesn't happen because of the characterisations.

Enigma05 and Mizuhira-san will have unique takes. You can join in too!

Very nice summary! Your words are better than what I could articulate, given I was very sad over those scenes. That was definitely a pivotal moment where Tang Lici was indeed finally letting go. It was heartbreaking. But he knew he needed to do it, and he fully understood why.

She is gorgeous and good at putting on an act of pretending to be righteous, while saying all the right things to some very stupid people.

Assuming I am reading your timeline correctly, I'm wondering if TLC was too preoccupied with Chi Yun and Liu Yan, and thought it could all be overcome if he won the election.

I finished "Whispers of Fate" and my favourite couple that isn't a couple but a duo of longtime friends was all about the comedy. Bai Shu and Ai Mi are squabbling about Xiao Xuefu, and the end result of wondering what or who Xiao Xuefu was- Hilarious.

Costume dramas going hard on parody and comedy is something I would like to see Caesar Wu in again. Do you have any other recs similar to this drama? Doesn't have to be a costume drama, if you don't have another one.

Yanmen general- You mean sect leader Jiang?

Maybe XFT is the opposite of what she was, after what Tang Lici did.

Hopefully you got your answers. If you want to understand the ending plus Tang Lici's symbolism to begin with, RBF's 2023 post is important.

I think it's important that everyone contributes what they can. I am grateful for everyone who has been helpful, such as when you spoiler-pampered Enigma05 who probably can't sleep now after episode 40 XD

I have just made a forum post which also includes your contributions, and I also made a comment in the comment section: https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24223532

Would really appreciate animated clips, and hopefully they eventually do that.

[ I am writing about what question SLY seeks, worldview/timeline logics and a character analysis of Tang Lici/thinking process of Ye Mo but it’s taking forever. ] - Woah, that sounds quite complex. What are the hurdles you face?