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JK-L008 the sockpuppet account talking to yourself at the main account cappucino_gal with the comment above this one:

Since you have been taking the initiative to harass me with multiple comments including personal attacks over multiple days, I also directed you to Azure more than two days ago because you mentioned Azure and want Azure's attention. You ultimately seem to have something to grind with Azure. You didn't talk to Azure, so I'll repost again for you to directly engage Azure:

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24292802

I don't dream of celebrities when I sleep, thank you for asking :)

I strongly suggest that you seek professional therapy for your online behaviour and offline life. I feel embarrassed and sad for your parents in light of your behaviour. Seriously, get help. Thanks.

I've been enlightened by Azure about the amount of nonsense and malice directed at LYX and fellow fans such as yourself, about one person on this page who is seriously disturbed and needs professional help. Gosh. Sorry to hear about everything you all have been subjected to:

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24341786

The sad trade-off is that if they could find each other in this new life, they would actually be emotionally healthy and very suitable for each other.

At first I too thought their bond was unhealthy, but when we see how Hong-guniang can make Liu Yan intervene on behalf of the cat with Gui Mudan, it paints a very different picture. Her protection of him later on, after Tang Lici saves him from Gui Mudan was also very touching. I thought it was also very sad that Liu Yan was consumed with understandable hatred for Tang Lici, along with self-denial of guilt which added to that hatred.

Too bad there's no bonus episode to expand on this new life of everyone else.

I have read Azure's reply to me, and I'm struggling to formulate an answer. That is completely warped and crazy. Just... WTF.

I now feel very sorry for everyone who encountered the cappucino person on this page and elsewhere, before this drama aired. I only came to this page just as the drama was about to start airing.

No wonder my words got twisted out of context whenever I engaged with her in good faith on this page, until she went too far for my liking.

Lin Yun needs good fans and proper support, not the kind of fans who totally turn people away from Lin Yun and make Lin Yun look terrible due to their fan-behaviour.

Here's an article titled "On Being Mentored by a Chinese Woman Writer Who Lived a Thousand Years Ago", where Wendy Chen considers how the experience of translating Li Qingzhao's work has taught her about her own work. I quote from the start:

[ The Song-dynasty writer Li Qingzhao (1084-1151) is considered one of the greatest poets in Chinese history. The fact that she was a woman, working at a time when women were discouraged from writing or publishing, makes this honor all the more astonishing. Moreover, not only did she write and publish prolifically—producing ci (lyrics), shi (poems), and wen (essays) on craft—she lived an extraordinary life. ]

https://lithub.com/on-being-mentored-by-a-chinese-woman-writer-who-lived-a-thousand-years-ago/

There are some people with specific vendettas against Luo Yunxi and/or Whispers of Fate on this drama page, and I believe this should help:

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24328236

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24341786

Which episode are you at?

Gui Mudan makes Liu Yan believe Liu Yan is a mutual leader whom he also respects, wrt the House of Pleasure. However, Gui Mudan is the one who found Liu Yan four years ago, after what happened to Fang Zhou, and convinced Liu Yan to join him. Gui Mudan's schemes extend back at least 20 years. What Gui Mudan really thinks of Liu Yan is revealed after episode 30, which matches my dissection of much-earlier when episode 14 aired.

Episode 14 in Mandarin shows Gui Mudan mocking, threatening and reminding Liu Yan of his place. It's difficult if one doesn't grasp the references, so I have created a description plus shared translation of certain lines here:

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24049658
https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24049694

This drama is structured akin to a chinese play and certain operatic elements are emphasised, which understandably can make the first episode harder to take in when certain actors are also portraying their characters with a theatrical bent. The sets have a theatrical feel to them, due to lighting and angles. It's ok to have different opinions about the starting :) If you have questions, just ask.

You're welcome! We are celebrating the success of WoF, and sincere warm contributions from fellow viewers such as yourself are much appreciated for being part of the group effort. There's another viewer who wants to do a cover of a WoF song for their Youtube channel, which I am looking forward to hearing :)

There is no romance tag for this drama, even after 40 episodes have aired. This drama was previously described as heroism-focused by at least one of the producers way before this drama aired.

Luo Yunxi's journey to fully understand the seven emotions is the crux of this adventure, whereby he learns and grows and decides how to change his destiny. His character Tang Lici makes friends, learns to cherish people in different ways, and has chemistry with many characters, so you can ship whoever you like with him. And there are scenes of humour in this drama XD

However, in terms of romance, the producers walked a thin line to balance out three factions (including the non-romance faction). If you are willing to use your imagination, it can work. Do note that even without using imagination, what has been shown can also be perceived as one-sided. Honestly, I can't even claim a CP and neither can other viewers who have finished watching the drama.

He can't delete my comment, only his own. I'll mind my own business, when bullies stop getting bolder in harassing someone I know for being fans of an actress. Otherwise that's how bullies feel empowered, and then these whackos go to fan pages to harass other people.

If the troll still persists on this page, I suggest that someone should report the racist chinese-hater Mephisto in the Support Forum Section and request for Mephisto's account to be permanently suspended or terminated.

What is most important is that the totality of the episodes showcase a good script, good to excellent pacing and natural developments, a proper ending (hopefully happy), evocative and unique characterisations, with engaging yet beautiful camerawork that enables the audience to swoon and follow our cast as if we were there, until we want to be there !

Nice compilation! I'll add these:

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5237683108447253

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5237632194056525

From the stills and videos, one can see Ai Mi's natural beauty is allowed to shine while showing glimpses of the young woman who walked the red carpet at the Wenrong Awards less than two months ago.

Lin Yi looking great in that coat and glasses!

I understand where you are coming from, even though from a Buddhist perspective I was happy for Tang Lici. My only grouse was that I wished Xue Xianzi who seems to have remembered Tang Lici could at least write poetry, to commemorate him by.

If I'm not wrong, Luo Yunxi mentions that sometime in a very distant future, they all reunite again. But of course, since no hint of that appears in the ending, it would seem almost unbearably sad.

The novel for this drama is more extreme than Mysterious Lotus Casebook. This drama tones down what is in the novel, such as Xifang Tao in the novel isn't actually just an evil woman. Tang Lici is far more grey than in the drama. I recommend you read the novel but bear in mind what Azure said, because it remained unfinished and wasn't on Teng Ping's writing radar of her preferred novels until it got adopted for the drama. The drama has some basis in the novel, but it is not an adaptation and saying it is based on the novel wouldn't be correct to me either.

For Fated Hearts, the novel wasn't great. But the character who most caught my eye in there ended up as the only character who was somewhat butchered in the drama adaptation. It was a somewhat fascinating novel for me though, given the twist to novel-Xia Jingshi that wasn't in the drama. Novel-Xia-Jingshi is good in several interesting ways. I made a discussion thread on the MDL drama page, and I received quite a few questions about the novel versus the drama.

Love In The Clouds managed to totally dumb down Ji Bozai plus Ming Yi, which is quite a shame because in the novel they are well-matched in wits and words and the plot flows much better, plus Ming Yi is quite a feminist and created her own male harem and made Ji Bozai regret his earlier decisions to cheat on her, etc so for me, the novel is much better than the drama.

Kudos to Lu Yuxiao for acting out drama-Ming Yi so sincerely and completely because the characterisation was terrible there and Ming Yi was such a horrendous example of a female I couldn't get behind. But Love In The Clouds will do well because it is a KISS drama which the screenwriters managed to go for (while somewhat warping Situ Ling in the process so he becomes quite unlikeable and unlike the novel).

Liu Yan would sadly misunderstand because what Tang Lici did is (by chinese medicine standards) only the actions of a complete lunatic or an evil abomination, to take out Fang Zhou's heart. Western medicine and eastern medicine approaches towards anything surgical is very different. Liu Yan would also go ballistic to try to deny guilt because he remembers it was his medicinal skills which saved Tang Lici, leading to this disaster (also because he didn't understand how the Rebirth Scroll works).

I wonder at how Tang Lici became so confident across four years when back at Zhoudi Lou, he was the equivalent of an emotional toddler who managed to grow and barely passed childhood when the tragedy with Fang Zhou occurred. Luo Yunxi moves magnificently and carries himself very well on a stage, and it fits the settings. Huang Wei would be over the moon, because he is a costume designer's dream.

When the story starts in episode 1 and across ten episodes, Tang Lici's behaviour and thinking makes me see him as a teenager, ego-wise. Because of what he went through, I was happy to see him eventually warm up and open up to Shen Langhun, Chi Yun, A-Shui and others. To me, he was not yet an emotional adult, until he decided to teach Liu Yan a lesson that Liu Yan deserved, including saving Liu Yan from Gui Mudan. Tang Lici never really had friends who treated him like equals, until all these other characters appeared. He was treated like a ward at Zhoudi Lou, because his emotional development then was the slowest.

Liu Yan's treatment of him cut him to the core, plus growing up with such a royal godfather and surely exposed to the workings of the court? His wariness and suspicion of others would be maximum.

I thought Zhong Chunji's characterisation was a bit abrupt in how she fell for Tang Lici. I would have improved her storyline development with that more naturally in one of two ways, but the PTSD she suffered from what Liu Yan did to her in captivity cannot find the help she needs, hence she has to dig her way back out. Enigma05 made a post about the PTSD much earlier, but got attacked.

Her PTSD doesn't excuse her bad decisions, because people with PTSD behave in ways that can be illogical simply to protect themselves from what they view as rejection that attacks their insecurities and exposes them as what they refuse to accept. It is still wrong.

I already knew Chi Yun would likely die (just as he also died in the novel), but it was still heartbreaking. Before that, I enjoyed his camaraderie with Shen Langhun and Tang Lici. Chi Yun's theme song hits harder because of all this, and his theme song makes my eyes a bit watery.

I figured Tang Lici would sacrifice himself because he keeps trying to give the unlikeliest people a second chance, which is also why he keeps suffering injuries to himself. But he broke the cycle of rebirth, and he changed his destiny, and everyone else has a second chance to live the life they can enjoy... Proving everyone is born good and not inherently evil.

And the comedy! I am so glad for it XD

Kwanto previously shared how Yunhe gave the lowest co-efficient ever (which makes a Yunhe a joke on this subject and totally destroys their credibility) and why Yunhe shot themselves in credibility:

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24241136

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24231940

Ranko Zeravica also shared a good summary, which I will C-and-P a bit here:

[ I have to laugh at the idea that Yunhe is considered trustworthy. This is a company with only two employees paying social security, and a debt-to-asset ratio of 137%.
Yunhe’s data is widely known to be biased toward iQiyi dramas. In fact, Yunhe is often called as ‘Taohe’, a term used in the film and television industry in the past two years to refer to the relationship between iQiyi and Yunhe. It primarily refers to allegations that iQiyi dramas' performance on Yunhe Data is systematically inflated or manipulated.

Yunhe also reportedly attempted to integrate with Migu, but was rejected due to transparency issue. Migu is a state-owned company, and Yunhe failed to meet its standards...]

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24212052

Looking forward to your post! WoF reached Top 5 of annual rankings while having the shortest broadcast period. WoF is ranked Number 1 on Maoyan for November Effective View Count Chart!

If I am not wrong, also in the top 2 on Lighthouse’s November Full-Episode View Count: 714 million full-episode views, with the second-highest spot among all dramas.