Xiang83

You're here only for Jelly Lin. We get it, based on your constant rude bashing of almost every other character in this drama and insistently shoving that opinion with the dogged passion of a shovel digging a hole. Thank you for boring one-note consistency. You are still using capslock and not getting the point of forum etiquette, so there's no point interacting with you.

Meanwhile, for the rest of us who are appreciating other aspects of the drama including the opera, camerawork, HK film inspirations from 80s and 90s, the acting of various actors and actresses and complexity of emoting for certain roles... Don't be surprised when people don't respond to you. Bye.

They possibly exhausted their ideas with Xifang Tao and focused primarily on the male characters. She is interesting. I reckon the screenwriters came to Zhong Chunji and A-Shui and just... went for the easiest modes as plot devices for Tang Lici and main plot.

Probably more of us need to make our appreciation of different aspects of this drama more visible. Luo Yunxi always manages to leave an imprint of his interactions with different actors and actresses, and makes such an impact on- screen. What do you love about this drama?

I appreciate the opera influences, the theatre-like approach and the camerawork for the wide-angle shots: https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24159222

I'll check it out!

Perhaps more of us need to show visible support for such dramas and their various aspects (be it the aesthetics/art and plot and characterisation), to increase the quality of industry output.

Romance more often than not helps to drive the plot and character development in good to great dramas and isn't a primary feature, also because characters are well-written. Romance by itself is boring for me but then again, there's a huge market for romance-primary-focus dramas.

I appreciate the theatre of it all. Very crisp alluring colours or softer vivid contrasts. Frame composition is symmetrical, in that you could literally pause a scene featuring one of the epic sets or beautiful scenery in a wide angle shot, and appreciate the cinematography because it's all intentionally captured from certain angles and edited with a certain finish before being included in the drama to appear 3D.

Sichuan opera influence is more obvious, Beijing opera less so. China's opera heritage includes more than 300 types of regional variations, but the 5 major variations include Huangmei opera and Yue opera alongside Sichuan opera and Peking Opera. Gui Mudan as a character is an example of primary elements utilising Sichuan Opera while incorporating elements from other opera forms.

Here's a helpful easy summary with Youtube examples of Sichuan versus Beijing opera: https://onwardsupwards.ca/foreigners-guide-to-chinese-opera/

What if there are shades of Fong Sai Yuk and Chinese opera trappings, in a not-yet-aired C-drama featuring a strong ensemble cast? Here is the trailer: https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5067022944178847

Gui Mudan is one of my favourite characters. Jeremy Tsui is fantastic in that role, especially episode 33 ;)

Weibo has its share of ridiculous fan wars, but the enthusiasm by fans is also far more heartening too :)

Echoes of Self- Is that with the actor who was Yan Xiao in LITC?

Between winning the Wenrong Awards recently as one of three artists for Notable Young Rising Actor and this Grazia cover, Ai Mi's star is very bright. Her scenes with Luo Yunxi, Bai Shu and other actors in this drama are a very good audition as it stands, for Directors to note.

That said, WoF's pacing issue which I identified by the end of episode 15 is now amplified by the storytelling execution. The battle in episode 32 should have happened in episode 30. I have anime and gamer background, so keeping up with the main plot, some subplots and little details isn't an issue.

But for at least 40% of viewers IMHO, getting lost with the extent of Yique Yinyang's machinations and how Gui Mudan factors in is going to be natural because there isn't enough augmentation of enough clues raised by Tang Lici from episode 26 onwards.

Chen Yao is doing very well! I am wondering where all her fans are. Perhaps MDL is quite different from weibo and douyin. She has a guest role in Vendetta of An. What's a drama of hers you can recommend?

Hopefully Xifang Tao doesn't bite off more than she can chew. I'm torn between wanting a happy ending for her and- Gosh, I hope she'll give Master Puzhu some peace. I'm blissfully ignoring any previews, knowing this drama will come to an end soon D:

Shui Duopo- I mean Ai Mi is now on the front cover of Grazia (China)! https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5232135847543035#comment

She has to be manipulative, otherwise she would not be of such high value to Gui Mudan and he would have gotten rid of her long ago. I'm wondering if she is smart enough to finally see a way out for herself because frankly, living with Gui Mudan is dangerous.

That said, I would adore a modern version of Xifang Tao, maybe like this (Chen Yao's been posting new getups on her weibo account): https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5231123898567530

It was about time in Episode 32 that Tang Lici finally understands how hope works, plus the importance of protecting and cherishing the now, and not sacrificing everything for a past he cannot retrieve nor return to. I am sad for the armoured geese of Yanmen, who have lost their human counterparts.

“决定你是谁的绝非你眉间的金瞳额印，而是你的一念之间，一心之隔，有能者更应该造福苍生。春绿雪去河又来，这世上没有白费的光阴。虽然希望有时候会破灭，不过新的希望会在破灭中重新诞生。新的希望，新的人，就在你身边。”

I always enjoy gripping dialogue. Whether it is Liu Yan giving Fang Pingzhai three sentences before he decides whether to kill him, Tang Lici coming to self-realisation at last and then having a game with Gui Mudan... It's as satisfying as having a uniquely tasty sandwich with ingredients nobody else can identify XD

I am elated but also wary: Is Xifang Tao truly changing sides? She has her own masks, and I'm not sure which one she is using at this point.

Gui Mudan and episode 33 is riveting. So many gems~ Luo Yunxi is truly a gem, in how he manages to create certain impressions with different actors and actresses.

[ 历尽七情......
终成完美......
......真是好一个完美的闭环 。]

Let me make you happy with Xue Xianzi:

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5228958565271196

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5227506145957855

https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5226070785919751

Should be 40 episodes. I don't see how there can be a sudden reduction in the number of episodes, considering the sheer amount of unfinished ends to wrap up. Otherwise there will be a lot of enraged viewers.

Don't worry. Here's Tang Lici and Liu Yan coming to an understanding: https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5232535756869562

And Gui Mudan with Tang Lici: https://m.weibo.cn/detail/5232238625293909

I reckon Master Puzhu will have to teach Tang Lici that.

There are spoilers galore on Weibo. You can consider logging back in ;)

I know who is the princess, but I'm respecting the OP's request not to give spoilers. Having a tattoo is a very intimate matter, and for a high-ranking noble, who is female? I'm waiting to see how they will get this sorted within less than ten episodes of many ends to wrap up.

Just wash your blanket more often this weekend :p

When Love and Destiny aired in 2019, they released more than 40 episodes. It was necessary to accommodate a very good C-Drama and strong ensemble cast.

Fang Zhou cannot come back. Bringing the dead back to life is not possible. But Tang Lici would try, because of who he is and what he believes he can achieve and what Fang Zhou did for him. What I observed about drama-Tang Lici ever since the first flashbacks at Zhoudi Lou is that he doesn't seem to understand emotions while being very truamatised.

This had me questioning the extent of his emotional maturity throughout this drama, meaning Tang Lici is emotionally developed to deal with evil and other nasties but when it comes to emotional maturity of romantic relationships or non-platonic love, he seemed to be lacking in that department because of his origins and how he lived, until he met Fang Zhou. I thought that because of his race, he wasn't emotionally mature as per the natural developments of their race, as in I thought he was literally an infant or little child under the age of 5, when it came to stage of emotional development when he met Fang Zhou. This is crucial to the drama-Tang Lici we are seeing: He can grasp intellectual necessities but when it comes to the finer mature nuances, Shen Langhun runs circles around him.

A HE for everyone is possible, but unfortunately it means our ML won't make it. I would like my HE for Tang Lici, but I'm sure they didn't film that as one of the possible endings. The cat had better get a happy ending, after living with Gui Mudan!

any_anka and I were having some discussions here about different characters, which became a thread of several replies:

https://kisskh.at/755725-shui-long-yin#comment-24132776

I also included cultural references to some details in earlier episodes, since at least one f-lister appreciates my summaries for the finer details of say, Chan Buddhism pertaining to Master Puzhu. Maybe take a look :). It won't spoil you since you are already at a specific episode.

Get a good rest and plenty of juice. Looking forward to your review :)

We have less than ten episodes left, and I'm a bit nervous as to how they are going to get everything in. Theories are always fun! I wonder how Liu Yan found Gui Mudan. Or did Gui Mudan find him?

I also wonder which ending we're going with. Frankly, I want Tang Lici to adopt Gui Mudan's cat and be happy in a house, surviving any final battles to do Jianghu things and be with his friends. But then again, given the sacrificial messages throughout this whole drama... I am putting a towel on standby.