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I agree, they are both greedy and selfish. It doesn't seem like they will change their ways. At least not until they've lost everything.

Interesting point about Gyu-rim blocking out the death of her child and believing that Gyeol is really hers. I can't imagine the amount of pain and stress she was dealing with at that time, on top of the emotional upheaval of giving birth and all the changes that are happening to you physically. I really do sympathize with her and how she has been able to keep everything and everyone together all these years. But now it's time to lay some of that burden down and let it all out.

While I sympathize with Gyu-rim and everything that she has gone through, she does need to stop blocking things and people out.
She needs to tell Gyeol the truth, somehow. It will be extremely difficult...how do you tell a child that his birth mother didn't want him/couldn't keep him without that hurting him even more?

Then once he does know the truth, what will happen? Will he want Gyu-rim to try to find her? What if she's still around and decides that she wants Gyeol back...how will Gyu-rim deal with that?

Also, we don't know if Gyu-rim actually adopted Gyeol or not, she could have just taken him home. If the bio mom comes back into the picture, Gyu-rim will have no (legal) leg to stand on to keep Gyeol. I don't know if raising him for 7 or so years will weigh in her favor or not.

I'm not sure why Gyu-rim kept the circumstances of her baby's birth/death and Gyeol becoming her child from the rest of the family (even if it was only the twins at home at that time).
- Was she afraid of their criticism/judgement? That she would take on that responsibility when their financial circumstances were so poor?

Still lots of questions to be answered and only Gyu-rim can answer the majority. But she needs to stop saying "Gyeol is my son" and not providing any other explanation.
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Seo Hyeon needs to get a grip also. It's sort of gross that she would still consider being with Mujin when she has been told that he is her half-brother (even if part of her doesn't believe it). Also, she really has no right to give Mujin conditions by which he can live. She has admitted that she knows why Mujin agreed to be with her and him having romantic feelings for her isn't one of the reasons. While I don't think that he should have agreed to be with her when he didn't have those feelings, I also don't feel that he owes her anything.
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Hun Tae is now just going to run away from the mess he created? I have a feeling that things will explode before that can happen.
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Lots of emotional turmoil for Mujin right now. No wonder he can't work!
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Looks like it will be a long road ahead for Gyu-Oh to win the girl that he loves.

Yes, I forget that we are all at different points where we are watching.

Yeah, it's difficult to understand why people watch a drama if they dislike it so much.

Yeah, that's probably for the best. Especially since you edited your comment after I replied that I didn't understand what you meant.

I wasn't sure how he meant it, that's why I posed the question.😁

Sorry, not sure I understand your comment.

I'm hoping it was concern, but I'm afraid they still have a long way to go. But any positive movement, no matter how small, is better than none, right?

You may be right...still hurt and angry, but can't help but wonder how she lived.

True!

@TooEmotional...great post.

Regarding Gyu-rim's pregnancy...I think the whole pregnancy storyline is a little strange, or maybe ambiguous is a better word. It's almost as if she wasn't with the family during her pregnancy. They've given us facts that prove Gyeol is not Gyu-rim's bio son, but yet many of us are still not convinced...is it just wishful thinking on our part, or is the writer weaving something more complicated?

Episode 13 covered the full range... from ridiculous to hilarious to heartbreaking.

Seo-Hyeon should flip out once she learns that her Dad lied about Mu-jin. Obviously, her dad just acted impulsively, but will now pay the price when his daughter learns the truth. I agree with other commenters who said she's not a child (even though she acts like one) and shouldn't be coddled like a child.

Hilarious is the only word to describe the restaurant scene with Heung-sik, Gyu-yeong and the "fiancee".

Poor Han Gyeol...his little heart is broken. The previews looked heartbreaking as well, where it appears that he calls Gyu-rim "ma'am", since she's not his mom.😪 This may cause Gyu-rim to fall apart completely.

One thing I'm not sure about, please give me your take on it...
At the end of the episode, where Mu-jin asks Gyu-rim "what kind of life she's been living in the years since she left him"...was he asking in a sympathetic manner? Or in a derogatory manner?
The way he thought/talked about her earlier was sort of mean, so I'm not sure where he's coming from right now, in regards to her. (I realize he's still deeply hurt and all that, so I maybe get it if he's not being sympathetic ).

@Choyee, it's not like she was hiding her kids from her new husband either. He knew that she had kids and probably would have supported her if she wanted to be involved in their lives. He also would have helped financially.

So having her ignore her kids for all these years is just for the drama, so there is another source of conflict.
Just my take...

Yes, she has a nice smile.

Yes, she did say that he would get shares if he won the competition, but for Yeongja and grandma, it wasn't "give", she said "take". Maybe "give" is what she meant, so it could be a subs difference. To me there is a big difference between take and give.

No, I don't know how many shares he has now.

Ok, point taken.

Ok I re-watched it.

Two parts of what she said are not true:
1. "Gyeol set the whole thing up"
(grandpa faking coma etc)

2. In talking about the shares, she said (sic) Gyeol would "take the remaining 20% that Father will leave to Yeonja
and Mother too"

Hmmm maybe I need to watch that part again.

Except that she's not correct in what she's saying.😁