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I know some people may find it a drag, and thats ok each to their own it's not for everyone, but for me I am so excited for the 5th and final loop. They have built the anticipation so well, honestly maybe besides ep 3/4 which were a bit slow but I understand they had to set things up with the base loop, every other episode for me has been really exciting and interesting, piquing my curiosity. I am sure eitherJiang Yuwen or MYZ or possibly both have secret cards up their sleeves they saved just for the 5th and final loop. Looking forward to seeing how ML deals with them. I think they've done a great job of drawing out the loops, adding new elements and new twists for each loop, especially loop 3 and 4, slowly giving us more clues and backstory. So excited to see how it all comes together.

Hahaha ikr, so many twists recently. And yeh having a good discussion with @Xiang, it's fun discussing theories with cdramas like this. I like your theory, I also bet on MYZ. Can't wait to see if we're right 😂

I didn't think about how squid's message would go against his own goal of killing MYZ. Really interetsing theories you have based on your prosfiling knowledge, really interetsing. I agree, like how squid killed the two exexcutives, could have just waited till a loop day and killed MYZ cleanly, the message was unecsary and draws unwanted attention. I agree, if it was Jiang Yuwen, they wouldn't taunt like that. Makes me think like you said, its MYZ throwing suspcion off him. I do thing Jiang Yuwen wants MYZ dead, and they are both time loop percivers going at each other.

However, I am unsure about if Jiang Yuwen killed the two exeuctives, his main anamonisty seems to be with MYZ alone, why kill them first. Also we find out, he intrusted his own daughter to one of the exuectives, so seems like he at least had some relationship/trust with one exeuctive, so why kill him. Maybe MYZ killed the two exeuctives, as we find out in ep 10 and 11 one of them was oging to sell his shares. Also possible MYZ hired that guy that is helping 'squid' to also target him alongside the two exeuctives, as he belived he could survive with his ability, and also maybe thats why he (pretending to be squid) involved the police, for added protection. And once he was caught, knowinf he also targettedMYZ would throw suspicon off him even more. Also we know now that the helper guy's sister is the same women MYZ had a crush on, maybe he used her to blackmail/corerce him to do his bidding.

I do think Jiang Yuwen is tyring to kill MYZ for sure, and it's also very reaosnable he also killed the two exeuctives, so not ruling him out. Also we find out his duaghter is Maggie as well, so he could easily be using her/manipualting her to change the loop. Also he has a close connection with Professor You, meaning he could also manipualte him to chang the loop. Also, I was like you, I thought Tang Xin wasn't majorly involved, but now we find out she's Jiang Yuwen's duaghter, while I don't think shes the mastermind or anything, I feel like maybe she is his hidden card he will play only in loop 5 to really make sure his plans succeed.

Either way, after ep 10 and 11 we can narrow the suspects down to MYZ and Jiang Yuwen I think. I believe they are both deeply involved, but as to who is really squid and who really killed the exuectives, not entirely sure yet. Side note, maybe Maggies mother also invovled as it seems she is a time loop perceiver unless, her lotteyr win and stock tips were fron Jiang Yuwen as a way to help/repay her for raising their daughter alone. Looking forward to your thoughts after ep 10 and 11.

Little did we know Jiang Yuwen was a god damn player, dudes got kids everywhere (ok maybe just 2 but still)

Hahaha definitely, I'm hoping this isn't a ctrauma

The preview for ep 12 is outrageous, so good.

Hahaha its no problem, same happens to me all the time

For those that use the little emoji's on the air calendars as clues, I'm a little worried for ep 10 and 11, the emoji for ML is a heart, and we know he seems to be having heart problems. Hope it's not bad sign, praying for a happy ending.

Yeh true, I forget he was also involved in Jiang Yuwen disappearance case. He might be working for MYZ or the big villain, covering up their crimes so they are declared accidents/suicides and no one investigates.

They speak both mandarin and cantonese. What you're hearing sometimes that is weird is cantonese, while most cdramas use mandarin. Some scenes were filmed in Macau and Hong Kong, thus the different dialects.

I think you're mistaking Huang Yuan with Duang Zheng. His boss/friend is Duan Zheng, Huang Yuan is the boss of the other police squad we saw in ep 2, that made mistakes with the case. The one who cars for ML is Duan Zheng, not Huang Yuan.

Difference with the moma case vs bank robber case is that there is another time loop perceiver, same as ML interfering with the moma case (maybe more than one). The villain squid has the same ability as ML, so he is interfering with what happens as well, so really it's a contest between the two. Seems from clues that MYZ has the same ability as ML, is a time loop perceiver, and there may be others. Thus they are creating change.

I agree for sure, I think he is keeping FL’s friend in that room. MYZ definitely so suspicious, with his mentor, and now waking up at midnight on the loop days. Not sure about FL she might, but at the same time she’s hiding it very well if she has. I think MYZ definitely has time awareness and I think maybe his mentor has it as well, that’s why he faked his death in the fire.

Twelve letters is very good, but it’s very emotional and a heavy watch. But worth it.

Good question, I feel maybe Huang Yan could be an inside man maybe working for squid or even MYZ. Or he's just jealous that ML and his team solve crimes better than him. I'm suspicious about him because in ep 2 he was really against reopening the case and really wanted everyone to think the death of the executives was just an accident.

100% agree, don't know if you have seen it, but twelve letters had a similar time fantasy element, and they never explained the origin, but it was explained in a way that made sense. Just like for this drama, like you said. They don't make it too complicated or confusing. And yeh MYZ is very suspicious, and we keep finding out more about him that makes him more suspicious.

FL very strange, just not sure how many secrets she's hiding. She's investigating her friend, and maybe thats all, but seems like she might has more secrets. She definitely seems connected to a lot, like you said, like also being connected to Maggie. You'll see in ep 9 also, MYZ seems to have had a crush on FL's friend, so they're connected in that way also.

But yeh, it's fun trading theories for sure, one of the best things about dramas like these.

Oh thats true, I like that theory, maybe he thought he just fainted but in fact he died, and thats him realizing that like you said, thats a good idea. Definitely very fun to theorize for this show and trade theories with people in the comments

Thanks and yeh possibly, maybe all those deaths are catching up to him or something like that, thats a pretty good theory

I agree with what you're saying. I have seen the most recent eps.
As for what Yu Shiya saw, I wrote a new comment recently, but I think it could be FL's friend she's searching for. We see MYZ seems to have had a crush on her, maybe she's in a coma or something and MYZ is trying to save her with their genetic medicine, similar to what FL is doing with her mother. Also could be Jiang Yuwen thats not a bad idea.

The only thing with what you mentioned is, how did MYZ know it would be a loop day, either someone is really trying to kill him or MYZ might have figured out a way to predict loop days. But I do agree fs Jiang Yu wen or a time perceiver was trying to kill MYZ, a bomb would not be the best way. Like how the other two executives died, they would wait till they're sure it's a time loop day, then plan a clean kill for the fifth day.

I do like what you said about the bomb though, didn't consider that doing it not the first day is pointless. I agree with our suspects I think either MYZ or Jiang Yuwen. I think possibly MYZ has figure out a way to predict time loop days, then like you said, he is squid, killed the other two executives then killed him with a bomb to throw of suspicion, knowing it would be a time loop day.

Either that or Jiang Yu Wen. We see in flashbacks I think professor You saw MYZ kill Jiang Yu Wen but it was a loop day, so it's only deja vu for him. Then Jiang Yu Wen set the fire to escape MYZ's killing, so maybe he is a time loop perceiver, as well. Either way, suspicious of MYZ and Jiang Yu Wen. I think possibly one of the drugs they created is what gives people this ability. We see that rat also that seems to act strange that An Lan take note of after every reset. Maybe whatever drug that rat has been given, gives people the ability to time loop perceive. Just guessing though, but definitely interesting mystery.

I think MYZ is a time loop perceiver for sure. However, not sure if he's squid. If he is, how did he know the day he died in an explosion would be a time loop day. Either someone is really trying to kill him, or he is squid and figured out a way to predict which days are time loop days. I feel like MYZ killed the other two executives, Maybe he hired that helper dude knowing he could escape him with his time loop abilities. Or possibly his professor/mentor is involved.

I believe his professor could be a time loop perceiver as well. Maybe all connected to the genetic researching they were doing back in the day. I think originally MYZ killed him, as Professor You saw, but it was a time loop day, and thus professor You has deja vu of JYW's death, mean while JYW escaped his death as he saw it coming. Just all guessing, but definitely think JYW plays an important role.

Also, what was in that room that shocked Yu Shi Ya in ep 9. I'm guessing FL's friend that is missing is in that room. I think possibly MYZ took her and is trying to save her using genetic treatment, similar to what FL is trying with her mother. Maybe she's in a coma in that room with ML trying to save her, as the flashbacks show he definitely has some sort of feelings towards FL's friend.

Maggie also sus, why in loop 3 did she all of a sudden decide to come and have a meeting. Ether she is a time loop perceiver and changed her choice, or she's being manipulated/instructed to change the course of events.

Also ML said he feels like he as died before, and his heart seems to be acting up, Maybe in the past, he did almost die but was brought back to life using the drug they're creating, thus giving him his abilities.

I know I'm saying like everyone is a time loop perceiver 😂, but I believe MYZ is one and someone else is also one besides ML. Either way the mystery is really interesting and god me thinking, And thats exactly what a good mystery does.

Man after ep 8 and 9 I really don't know what to think, just gonna spit ball but some random thoughts to get them out