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Saw a confirmation btw express package will drop today (21st) episodes 14-16 (on top of the usual ep 12/13), 12pm China time, check my discussion for the official poster. This is for vip members or people that want to purchase on iqiyi, don't think Netflix will have express.

Pretty much yeh, they thought the RAN drug cured her. Whether it was terminal lucidity or the drug actually did help her for those 7 seven days, it's unclear. But either way her condition deteriorated quickly after, so she was never cured. At best the drug may have just given her temporary relief.

We will get express tomorrow (21st)

I don't think it was that he was jealous. I think he found out MYZ was taking short cuts, possibly related to trying to treat his crush, FL's friend, so he was trying to make the research go faster, get results faster, there fore taking short cuts that could endanger people. Just a guess though based on some things they said and what we have seen. We don't know for sure yet what truly happened between them, probably find out soon.

100% agree the fight scenes were great, and we got so much new info. Agree with everything you said.

I agree, I think MYZ kept Wangqing's body, I think however maybe she's in a coma or something and he is trying to save her using their research.
I think Jiang Yuwen and MYZ can both time loop, and it's going to be a three way match between them and ML. So excited.

I know some people may find it a drag, and thats ok each to their own it's not for everyone, but for me I am so excited for the 5th and final loop. They have built the anticipation so well, honestly maybe besides ep 3/4 which were a bit slow but I understand they had to set things up with the base loop, every other episode for me has been really exciting and interesting, piquing my curiosity. I am sure eitherJiang Yuwen or MYZ or possibly both have secret cards up their sleeves they saved just for the 5th and final loop. Looking forward to seeing how ML deals with them. I think they've done a great job of drawing out the loops, adding new elements and new twists for each loop, especially loop 3 and 4, slowly giving us more clues and backstory. So excited to see how it all comes together.

Hahaha ikr, so many twists recently. And yeh having a good discussion with @Xiang, it's fun discussing theories with cdramas like this. I like your theory, I also bet on MYZ. Can't wait to see if we're right 😂

I didn't think about how squid's message would go against his own goal of killing MYZ. Really interetsing theories you have based on your prosfiling knowledge, really interetsing. I agree, like how squid killed the two exexcutives, could have just waited till a loop day and killed MYZ cleanly, the message was unecsary and draws unwanted attention. I agree, if it was Jiang Yuwen, they wouldn't taunt like that. Makes me think like you said, its MYZ throwing suspcion off him. I do thing Jiang Yuwen wants MYZ dead, and they are both time loop percivers going at each other.

However, I am unsure about if Jiang Yuwen killed the two exeuctives, his main anamonisty seems to be with MYZ alone, why kill them first. Also we find out, he intrusted his own daughter to one of the exuectives, so seems like he at least had some relationship/trust with one exeuctive, so why kill him. Maybe MYZ killed the two exeuctives, as we find out in ep 10 and 11 one of them was oging to sell his shares. Also possible MYZ hired that guy that is helping 'squid' to also target him alongside the two exeuctives, as he belived he could survive with his ability, and also maybe thats why he (pretending to be squid) involved the police, for added protection. And once he was caught, knowinf he also targettedMYZ would throw suspicon off him even more. Also we know now that the helper guy's sister is the same women MYZ had a crush on, maybe he used her to blackmail/corerce him to do his bidding.

I do think Jiang Yuwen is tyring to kill MYZ for sure, and it's also very reaosnable he also killed the two exeuctives, so not ruling him out. Also we find out his duaghter is Maggie as well, so he could easily be using her/manipualting her to change the loop. Also he has a close connection with Professor You, meaning he could also manipualte him to chang the loop. Also, I was like you, I thought Tang Xin wasn't majorly involved, but now we find out she's Jiang Yuwen's duaghter, while I don't think shes the mastermind or anything, I feel like maybe she is his hidden card he will play only in loop 5 to really make sure his plans succeed.

Either way, after ep 10 and 11 we can narrow the suspects down to MYZ and Jiang Yuwen I think. I believe they are both deeply involved, but as to who is really squid and who really killed the exuectives, not entirely sure yet. Side note, maybe Maggies mother also invovled as it seems she is a time loop perceiver unless, her lotteyr win and stock tips were fron Jiang Yuwen as a way to help/repay her for raising their daughter alone. Looking forward to your thoughts after ep 10 and 11.

Little did we know Jiang Yuwen was a god damn player, dudes got kids everywhere (ok maybe just 2 but still)

Hahaha definitely, I'm hoping this isn't a ctrauma

The preview for ep 12 is outrageous, so good.

Hahaha its no problem, same happens to me all the time

For those that use the little emoji's on the air calendars as clues, I'm a little worried for ep 10 and 11, the emoji for ML is a heart, and we know he seems to be having heart problems. Hope it's not bad sign, praying for a happy ending.

Yeh true, I forget he was also involved in Jiang Yuwen disappearance case. He might be working for MYZ or the big villain, covering up their crimes so they are declared accidents/suicides and no one investigates.

They speak both mandarin and cantonese. What you're hearing sometimes that is weird is cantonese, while most cdramas use mandarin. Some scenes were filmed in Macau and Hong Kong, thus the different dialects.

I think you're mistaking Huang Yuan with Duang Zheng. His boss/friend is Duan Zheng, Huang Yuan is the boss of the other police squad we saw in ep 2, that made mistakes with the case. The one who cars for ML is Duan Zheng, not Huang Yuan.

Difference with the moma case vs bank robber case is that there is another time loop perceiver, same as ML interfering with the moma case (maybe more than one). The villain squid has the same ability as ML, so he is interfering with what happens as well, so really it's a contest between the two. Seems from clues that MYZ has the same ability as ML, is a time loop perceiver, and there may be others. Thus they are creating change.

I agree for sure, I think he is keeping FL’s friend in that room. MYZ definitely so suspicious, with his mentor, and now waking up at midnight on the loop days. Not sure about FL she might, but at the same time she’s hiding it very well if she has. I think MYZ definitely has time awareness and I think maybe his mentor has it as well, that’s why he faked his death in the fire.

Twelve letters is very good, but it’s very emotional and a heavy watch. But worth it.

Good question, I feel maybe Huang Yan could be an inside man maybe working for squid or even MYZ. Or he's just jealous that ML and his team solve crimes better than him. I'm suspicious about him because in ep 2 he was really against reopening the case and really wanted everyone to think the death of the executives was just an accident.