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100% agree, don't know if you have seen it, but twelve letters had a similar time fantasy element, and they never explained the origin, but it was explained in a way that made sense. Just like for this drama, like you said. They don't make it too complicated or confusing. And yeh MYZ is very suspicious, and we keep finding out more about him that makes him more suspicious.

FL very strange, just not sure how many secrets she's hiding. She's investigating her friend, and maybe thats all, but seems like she might has more secrets. She definitely seems connected to a lot, like you said, like also being connected to Maggie. You'll see in ep 9 also, MYZ seems to have had a crush on FL's friend, so they're connected in that way also.

But yeh, it's fun trading theories for sure, one of the best things about dramas like these.

Oh thats true, I like that theory, maybe he thought he just fainted but in fact he died, and thats him realizing that like you said, thats a good idea. Definitely very fun to theorize for this show and trade theories with people in the comments

Thanks and yeh possibly, maybe all those deaths are catching up to him or something like that, thats a pretty good theory

I agree with what you're saying. I have seen the most recent eps.
As for what Yu Shiya saw, I wrote a new comment recently, but I think it could be FL's friend she's searching for. We see MYZ seems to have had a crush on her, maybe she's in a coma or something and MYZ is trying to save her with their genetic medicine, similar to what FL is doing with her mother. Also could be Jiang Yuwen thats not a bad idea.

The only thing with what you mentioned is, how did MYZ know it would be a loop day, either someone is really trying to kill him or MYZ might have figured out a way to predict loop days. But I do agree fs Jiang Yu wen or a time perceiver was trying to kill MYZ, a bomb would not be the best way. Like how the other two executives died, they would wait till they're sure it's a time loop day, then plan a clean kill for the fifth day.

I do like what you said about the bomb though, didn't consider that doing it not the first day is pointless. I agree with our suspects I think either MYZ or Jiang Yuwen. I think possibly MYZ has figure out a way to predict time loop days, then like you said, he is squid, killed the other two executives then killed him with a bomb to throw of suspicion, knowing it would be a time loop day.

Either that or Jiang Yu Wen. We see in flashbacks I think professor You saw MYZ kill Jiang Yu Wen but it was a loop day, so it's only deja vu for him. Then Jiang Yu Wen set the fire to escape MYZ's killing, so maybe he is a time loop perceiver, as well. Either way, suspicious of MYZ and Jiang Yu Wen. I think possibly one of the drugs they created is what gives people this ability. We see that rat also that seems to act strange that An Lan take note of after every reset. Maybe whatever drug that rat has been given, gives people the ability to time loop perceive. Just guessing though, but definitely interesting mystery.

I think MYZ is a time loop perceiver for sure. However, not sure if he's squid. If he is, how did he know the day he died in an explosion would be a time loop day. Either someone is really trying to kill him, or he is squid and figured out a way to predict which days are time loop days. I feel like MYZ killed the other two executives, Maybe he hired that helper dude knowing he could escape him with his time loop abilities. Or possibly his professor/mentor is involved.

I believe his professor could be a time loop perceiver as well. Maybe all connected to the genetic researching they were doing back in the day. I think originally MYZ killed him, as Professor You saw, but it was a time loop day, and thus professor You has deja vu of JYW's death, mean while JYW escaped his death as he saw it coming. Just all guessing, but definitely think JYW plays an important role.

Also, what was in that room that shocked Yu Shi Ya in ep 9. I'm guessing FL's friend that is missing is in that room. I think possibly MYZ took her and is trying to save her using genetic treatment, similar to what FL is trying with her mother. Maybe she's in a coma in that room with ML trying to save her, as the flashbacks show he definitely has some sort of feelings towards FL's friend.

Maggie also sus, why in loop 3 did she all of a sudden decide to come and have a meeting. Ether she is a time loop perceiver and changed her choice, or she's being manipulated/instructed to change the course of events.

Also ML said he feels like he as died before, and his heart seems to be acting up, Maybe in the past, he did almost die but was brought back to life using the drug they're creating, thus giving him his abilities.

I know I'm saying like everyone is a time loop perceiver 😂, but I believe MYZ is one and someone else is also one besides ML. Either way the mystery is really interesting and god me thinking, And thats exactly what a good mystery does.

Man after ep 8 and 9 I really don't know what to think, just gonna spit ball but some random thoughts to get them out

Filmed in all 3, mainly Guangzhou, but also had scenes filmed in Macau and Hong Kong.

It's possible but the thing is MYZ wouldn't know that the day he died in the explosion was a time loop day. He would only know after the day resets, which it hadn't yet, that all happened before the day reset, before we knew it was a time loop day, so he wouldn't know it's a time loop day. Unless, he has figured out a way to predict what days will be time loop days. That would be interesting if he did. I think he is for sure a time loop perceiver and a killer, but I do also think someone is trying to kill him, unless he has found a way to predict when a time loop day will happen.

I agree, I think Squid has larger/different plans, I think ML's mentor Jiang Yu Wen will play an important role. We only know he's missing, maybe MYZ betrayed him previously stealing his research and taking credit for it. So maybe he wants to take Moma back as he believes it should be his.

Also, Maggie sus as all of a sudden she changed the third time loop by messaging An Lan for a meeting. As this didn't happen in the first two loops, she is ether a time loop perceiver or like you said, she works for someone who instructed her to do this.

I like the theory about Yu Yinghua, maybe he works with Maggie/Volly as they're both in the investment banker type industry.

I don't think squid is An lan, I think she just genuinely wants to investigate what happened to her friend. And I don't think it's Yu Shiya, I don't think she's smart enough and I think she's too easily manipulated by MYZ and others. Interesting anyways, a few suspects, looking forward to seeings what happens. I think after recent eps MYZ is a time loop perceiver and I think the person trying to kill him also is, so I think we maybe have 2 Possibly MYZ killed the two executives as we find out they didn't get along but someone else is trying to kill him. Maybe Yu Yinghua, or maybe his old mentor.

Hahaha ofcourse, how could I forget to mention BJT

Yep same genre, just with more action and the villain also experiences the time loop, so more complicated. A bit deeper mystery, but similar concept and genre.

The whole story is moma based on the trailers. The story goes deeper with FL's missing or dead friend related to moma and MYZ's mentor bring introduced. So deeper mystery than just the two dead executives and death threats, but the whole story is related to moma. I don't think there will be a brand new case.

As for the murders, I think what happened was squid realized it was a loop day then killed them, if that makes sense. He just waited till a loop day came, then killed them, instead of estimating when a loop day would happen, he just waited till one happened and then planned and killed them. But also I like the theory that there may be a way to estimate when a loop day happens, hopefully we find out more about loop days and stuff like that later. MYZ definitely sus for sure.

Oh haha fair enough, seen a bunch of comments saying Janice Man looked like Song Yi so thought you meant that 😂 would be funny if it was actually Song Yi getting married, since she dated or may still be dating BJT, would be a nice cameo.

I don't think it was deja vu though, I thought it might be but he talks to the kid and tells him don't be scared the fifth time is the ending and the kid asks why five times. Just seems so specific that it didn't seem like deja vu like the others. But it might be deja vu, you might be right I just might be thinking too much about it, these type of shows tend to make me other think every little detail 😂

Yeh exactly, only the 5th time is the one that sticks. Doesn't matter what happens in the others. He's not in control of the time loop at all, he just remembers what happens and plans for the 5th one.

He can't trigger them, in ep 2 he says they happen randomly, he doesn't know when until they happen. It's more he keeps his memories when they happen, he doesn't cause them to happen.

Hahaha no problem, I thought the same with different cases before I saw the trailer, it's understandable no worries.

I would say today's eps definitely made it more interesting, introduced a new character in Maggie who is pretty interesting and the ending of ep 7 was a very nice twist.

No problem

Big difference between rating and promotion. As I said there are some modern dramas that do extremely well, for instance The Knockout was a super, mega hit. So it happens. Just my opinion though.

But since 2023, only 5 dramas have exceeded 100m daily views on solo online streaming platforms per Yunhe, which are the Knockout, lost you forever s1, Story of Kunning palace, joy of life 2 and this thriving land. And thriving land was a dark horse.

Again the discussion was on promotion not rating. In my opinion in China, historical dramas are more heavily promoted and viewed more than modern dramas, for the most part (talking online streaming, not satellite tv/cctv etc). Again there are exceptions, like the knockout, meet yourself, hidden love, first frost etc, there definitely are ones for sure. But we are talking in general. Top 5 highest heat index shows ever on tencent, all historical. Iqiyi, top 5 highest heat index ever, the knockout, thriving land (not technically modern but also not historical), then all 3 others historical. Same with youku, mostly historical with one or two modern.

Again, nothing against modern, I love modern cdramas, my favorite cdramas ever are a couple modern ones, but we weren't talking ratings. Ofcourse many modern cdramas are rated high, but when it comes to promotion, and viewership, I think historical is mostly favored over modern in china. Just look at the yunhe charts, unless theres a dark horse hit like thriving land, at the top of the charts most of the time are historical. Ofcourse if we talk rating, I'm sure it may be different, rating is completely different to promotion and viewership. The original comment was based on promotion. Don't get me wrong, not saying theres a massive, huge difference, and there are many great modern cdramas that get a lot of promotion and viewership for sure, just talking overall. Just my opinion though, all good if you feel different, everyone has their own opinions and that's fine.