ashesinthewind

The show is doing quite well actually, so there are quite a few people who like it. I would say it's doing as well as The Eclipse (at least on YouTube so far) and better than Vice Versa, considering there's little promotion and gmmtv is doing nothing but shoving MSP in our faces. I'm watching that one, too, btw, and if everyone needs to complain about bad plots, I wonder if they are complaining about MSP having basically none. There were whole episodes (episode 8 comes to mind) in which basically nothing happened.

I can only speak for myself, but I stopped posting or reading the comments here because I simply want to enjoy the show and Palm and Nueng's amazing chemisty. I think that many people who love the show are doing the same and just avoiding this comment section. The reactions especially to episode 9 on twitter and tumblr were overwhelmingly positive and here suddenly you see again people complaining about this and that... it's discouraging to anyone who likes the show and just wants to continue loving it without having to deal with the negativity. To sum it up, there are many who like the show, it's just that the haters have taken over here.

Nope.

Rewatching this again while waiting for the new episode of NLMG.

One thing I realised: Pond's characters is in love with a fish upon the sky here and in NLMG, although for different reasons. Here Mork's fish upon the sky is scared to love him, while in NLMG it's society's rules and family's expectations that keep them apart.

I can relate. I just rewatched episode 7 for the third time and they are getting cuter and cuter with every rewatch. I just love them so much.

Thank you! I like very much that Nuengdiao, despite lacking some social skills, is not portrayed as incapable of thinking for himself. Im sure he'll be taking care of himself just fine once he takes over and everybody around him (Palm including) stops thinking he needs to be protected all the time.

I dropped Not Me after 12 episodes. *ducks flying tomatoes* The only thing that kept me watching that far were the mains, but even they couldn't make me watch the last two episodes.

The best thing about this series for me is the love story between Palm and Nueng (I think they've developed it pretty well considering it started as love at first sight, at least for Palm), their natural chemistry and the beautiful cinematography. So many stunning pictures. PalmNueng are so, so, so in love. Honestly, I would watch even if they were the only characters. It was good to hear about Tanya being alive and it was nice to see Ben in this episode, because I continue to love him best after Nueng, Palm and Tanya and I really want to see what will happen with him, but other than that, I didn't miss anyone else and could've happily watched another episode like episode 6, which was basically Palm and Nueng bonding and being cute and in love. Also, it's nice to see them as characters (I'm leaving their social status out) at an equal footing, without one being dominant over the other like in many other BL series.

I think pretty much everyone is underrestimating Nuengdiao and he is going turn out more capable to deal with his uncle and Phum and the rest than expected.

PondPhuwin are for me the best "couple" with natural chemistry gmmtv has to offer and I would watch anything they do together. *nods*

I agree. The last couple of episodes dragged on and were melodramatic and frustrating.

I agree. The last couple of episodes dragged on and were melodramatic and frustrating.

The statement that Nueng always treats Palm bad is not true. Just for the record. Nueng has his good qualities and Palm, who's done nothing but watch him from the moment he met him, can see them. Generally, when you're in love, you tend to overlook some bad qualities your crush has and see more the good ones. And Nueng does have them, despite what some people here would claim. Which doesn't make it less true that he's spoilt and bratty, but this is what having loving and at the same time absentee parents, wealth and being detached and isolated from other people and the real world does to you. For example, it was very telling that Nueng was spending his 18-th birthday with his parents only, not a friend or a person his age in sight. To add to that, he wasn't sure his father would come. He has huge trust issues. Nueng has a lot to learn yet, but it doesn't mean he's generally a bad person and doesn't deserve to be loved.

It was love from first sight for Palm, it was obvious to me at least, which made Palm more invested to do his "duty" than it would've been necessary. No matter what he says, you don't kiss anyone out of duty. :)

Thank you! Then I take it back. I was just repeating what they said, but playfiul and endearing is ok with me, too. ;)

Someone on twitter said that the Chinese "fool" word Nueng called Palm is used when people flirt or are dating. They also said a better translation of it would be "silly". So if it's true, Nueng was flirting without Palm knowing about it, OMG. It was obvious from the body language, but it's nice to have in confirmed. :)

I'll let my shallow side take over today. PondPhuwin are both so good-looking, I can't stop staring. Pond is gorgeous, and Phuwin absolutely handsome. Chemistry aside, which they've always had, I think they've grown even more attractive than during the FUTS era.

I just have to say that I agree, episode 6 was the highlight of MSP for me! There was not a second wasted.

Here I was expecting more drama and got a cute and sweet episode instead I didn't know I craved.

Palm, just tell Nueng why you really kissed him, it's all he wants to hear.

I wouldn't pay that much attention to MDL ratings, you cannot please everyone. Fish Upon The Sky, the show that made me fall in love with Phuwin and Pond, has a rating of 7.7. If I had paid attention to it and missed the show because of it, I would've missed hours and hours of laughter and great chemistry. If a show interests you, I'd say to watch it despite the rating and decide for yourself.

I'm not saying that FUTS didn't have its problematic moments, but I loved it despite them. Others didn't enjoy it exactly because of them. We're all different people and there's something to watch for all of us, thankfully. :)

There wasn't just the kiss. Ben freely and voluntarily admitted to Chopper that he liked Nueng and wanted to ask him out. He could've just kept silent about it. He was aware Palm knew about it, too. He also looked very confident and certain in his pursuit of Nueng. Before that scene with the father, I never got the feeling Ben was trying to hide, so his reaction was not only something I couldn't excuse, but also very surprising considering his past behaviour.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that Nueng wasn't planning on staying closeted for a long time, so the relationship with Ben would've been doomed anyway. I think he told Palm not to say anything for two reasons - first, it's not Palm's announcement to make and second, Nueng wasn't sure about how his relationship with Ben would develop so he wanted to wait and see first. He'd decided to give Ben a chance, because he wanted to be wanted, but it was obvious he wasn't very much into that kiss. ;) For me, it was clear that Nueng was attracted to Palm and not Ben, but Ben was the one who showed he wanted him, so he went with it, so to say.

This discussion sort of made me (really) realise how utterly horrible that outing was for both of them and it makes me even more curious to find out who would do that to them. Judging from what the posters said, the attacker had it more for Nueng than for Ben.

Oh, I do have empathy, but it's mostly with Nueng. The way Ben acted sent him raging and screaming on that rooftop and wanting to erase the memory of his first kiss. He was not just hurt, but deeply hurt, and his feelings are valid or at least should be as much as Ben's. There was no way for Ben to know how Nueng's mother would react to the news, so the excuse that Tanya is nicer than Ben's dad so he can take the blame for the kiss doesn't sit right with me.

I would agree that Ben is not the worst person here, though. The real assholes are his father, the principal, who made a fuss for a kiss between two 18-year-olds and felt the need to inform the parents at all, and of course the person who outed them. I'd aslo agree that Ben's reaction is understandable to some point, but I cannot excuse it.

Of course queer people can have a relationship and stay closeted, but normally, a relationship involves two people, so here it's not just about Ben and what he wants and how he feels, there's a second person involved. If he was really afraid to come out and wanted to keep it a secret in any case, he should've never initiated that kiss while in school and risk being outed in the first place.

Because Ben initiated all of it and then threw the blame on Nueng. You can stay closeted without throwing the other person under the bus, especially when you were the active pursuer in that relationship.

I love Ben from the beginning, but he was definitely a jerk and I don't get why so many people are defending what he did. He actively pursued Nueng since the beginning. Didn't he know about his father's homophobia and what exactly did he expect to happen with Nueng? Was he planning on convincing Nueng to date him in secret? If yes, why initiate that kiss in school, where they could be easily seen?

Whatever happened between Ben and Nueng was entirely on Ben. If he didn't intend to date Nueng properly and is afraid of coming out, then maybe he should've sorted himself our first before going after him.

You're not. I think I'd watch anything with PondPhuwin, but I love the show on its own. I don't care about the plot holes, it's not like there are more than in any other show, even in the more hyped ones.