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Thank you! Then I take it back. I was just repeating what they said, but playfiul and endearing is ok with me, too. ;)

Someone on twitter said that the Chinese "fool" word Nueng called Palm is used when people flirt or are dating. They also said a better translation of it would be "silly". So if it's true, Nueng was flirting without Palm knowing about it, OMG. It was obvious from the body language, but it's nice to have in confirmed. :)

I'll let my shallow side take over today. PondPhuwin are both so good-looking, I can't stop staring. Pond is gorgeous, and Phuwin absolutely handsome. Chemistry aside, which they've always had, I think they've grown even more attractive than during the FUTS era.

I just have to say that I agree, episode 6 was the highlight of MSP for me! There was not a second wasted.

Here I was expecting more drama and got a cute and sweet episode instead I didn't know I craved.

Palm, just tell Nueng why you really kissed him, it's all he wants to hear.

I wouldn't pay that much attention to MDL ratings, you cannot please everyone. Fish Upon The Sky, the show that made me fall in love with Phuwin and Pond, has a rating of 7.7. If I had paid attention to it and missed the show because of it, I would've missed hours and hours of laughter and great chemistry. If a show interests you, I'd say to watch it despite the rating and decide for yourself.

I'm not saying that FUTS didn't have its problematic moments, but I loved it despite them. Others didn't enjoy it exactly because of them. We're all different people and there's something to watch for all of us, thankfully. :)

There wasn't just the kiss. Ben freely and voluntarily admitted to Chopper that he liked Nueng and wanted to ask him out. He could've just kept silent about it. He was aware Palm knew about it, too. He also looked very confident and certain in his pursuit of Nueng. Before that scene with the father, I never got the feeling Ben was trying to hide, so his reaction was not only something I couldn't excuse, but also very surprising considering his past behaviour.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think that Nueng wasn't planning on staying closeted for a long time, so the relationship with Ben would've been doomed anyway. I think he told Palm not to say anything for two reasons - first, it's not Palm's announcement to make and second, Nueng wasn't sure about how his relationship with Ben would develop so he wanted to wait and see first. He'd decided to give Ben a chance, because he wanted to be wanted, but it was obvious he wasn't very much into that kiss. ;) For me, it was clear that Nueng was attracted to Palm and not Ben, but Ben was the one who showed he wanted him, so he went with it, so to say.

This discussion sort of made me (really) realise how utterly horrible that outing was for both of them and it makes me even more curious to find out who would do that to them. Judging from what the posters said, the attacker had it more for Nueng than for Ben.

Oh, I do have empathy, but it's mostly with Nueng. The way Ben acted sent him raging and screaming on that rooftop and wanting to erase the memory of his first kiss. He was not just hurt, but deeply hurt, and his feelings are valid or at least should be as much as Ben's. There was no way for Ben to know how Nueng's mother would react to the news, so the excuse that Tanya is nicer than Ben's dad so he can take the blame for the kiss doesn't sit right with me.

I would agree that Ben is not the worst person here, though. The real assholes are his father, the principal, who made a fuss for a kiss between two 18-year-olds and felt the need to inform the parents at all, and of course the person who outed them. I'd aslo agree that Ben's reaction is understandable to some point, but I cannot excuse it.

Of course queer people can have a relationship and stay closeted, but normally, a relationship involves two people, so here it's not just about Ben and what he wants and how he feels, there's a second person involved. If he was really afraid to come out and wanted to keep it a secret in any case, he should've never initiated that kiss while in school and risk being outed in the first place.

Because Ben initiated all of it and then threw the blame on Nueng. You can stay closeted without throwing the other person under the bus, especially when you were the active pursuer in that relationship.

I love Ben from the beginning, but he was definitely a jerk and I don't get why so many people are defending what he did. He actively pursued Nueng since the beginning. Didn't he know about his father's homophobia and what exactly did he expect to happen with Nueng? Was he planning on convincing Nueng to date him in secret? If yes, why initiate that kiss in school, where they could be easily seen?

Whatever happened between Ben and Nueng was entirely on Ben. If he didn't intend to date Nueng properly and is afraid of coming out, then maybe he should've sorted himself our first before going after him.

You're not. I think I'd watch anything with PondPhuwin, but I love the show on its own. I don't care about the plot holes, it's not like there are more than in any other show, even in the more hyped ones.

I think it was meant to imply that Palm getting his arm broken in order to protect Nueng went too far and that Palm shouldn't have done that, so he's a fool. I kinda agree with Nueng here, tbh.

I love Nueng, bratty self-centered attitude nonetheless, so maybe I'm biased though.

It occurred to me, but I really, really loved that it didn't even cross Nueng's mind, because honestly, the obvious person for him should've been Palm, but he trusts him enough to know it's not him.

IMO Palm's actions and reactions when he saw what was going on showed that he didn't do this. He literally took a beating for Nueng and wasn't even angry about it. He wouldn't hurt Nueng like that, at least not deliberately. Instead, he tried to put that "You're the boss, I'm the servant" wall back between them.

Help, I can't stop rewatching that kiss scene - the more times I watch it, the more I like it. ;) I have flashbacks of the Eclipse first kiss scene and my reaction to it.

Legal drinking age in my country is 18. I drank for the first time when I was 16, in front of my parents. :) They were the opinion that before I tried beer or wine in secret without them knowing, they should allow me to try it themselves in front of them. I hated the beer then and I'm still only a casual drinker.

There's no way for Tanya and Chanon to know about Nueng being allergic to alcohol if he hasn't drunk before and they knew about it. I can imagine Nueng's parents allowing him to try a sip on a familiy dinner or something.

The question about why he was served alcohol in the first place is the real plot hole here, I agree.

My favourite scene was the one on the rooftop when Palm found Nueng. Briliant acting from Phuwin, I felt every word he screamed and rewatched the scene several times. Idc what anyone says about Phuwin, he is a very good actor.

I called it. For me, it's obvious Chopper outed them, it was written on his face. It was very subtle, but still there. I don't know what to say about Ben, because I continue to love him despite everything. He was a coward, yes, but his father, whom he's afraid of, was there. I don't know how exactly he's supposed to come together with Chopper, though, if they are going there. I hope to see a real development and not him suddenly going against his father because Chopper is his one and only or something. After this, it would be totally OOC and unbelievable.

The scene of Nueng with Tanya was also very well done. I hope she is not dead, I'd love to see her again, she's one of my favourites.

What's with this show and bad fathers? Every single one of them sucks. Ben's, Palm's, Nueng's and even Phum's didn't make a very good impression.

Someone commented that Palm deserved a real kiss and should not have been treated as a substitute, so to say, for Ben. The kiss was, however, entirely Palm's choice. He wanted it, found a reason for it and went for it fully. :) He obviously didn't regret it afterwards, so it's on him and him only. For me, it was clear he offered because he wanted to kiss Nueng, saw an opportunity to do it and didn't really care about what excuse he would give for it and I'm ok with it.

I'm trying to keep my expectations in check, but Pond is not making it very easy, he's been hyping that episode for weeks. I really hope it lives up!

My most anticipated series for this year, absolutely!

This is exactly how I feel about MSP. Good acting, I like all characters, cute, well done, polished, etc., but something is lacking and I have no idea what. Still not a reason enough to drop it, though, I'm a casual watcher. I'd say, give it a chance for a couple of episodes more.

From the preview, it seems that the Ben/Nueng relationship will be revealed to the school next week and I wonder whether Chopper is the one responsible. I get that he's a nice guy and everything and I trust he likes his cousin, but I found it very weird that he encouraged Ben to confess when he likes him himself. What if he was hoping for Nueng to reject Ben and when it doesn't happen, he snaps?

Now that the subs are finally back and I was able to rewatch without everything that happened in the episode being overshadowed by the ending, I can say that my favourite scene was the one in the library, when Nueng told Palm he could have everything. I hope Palm will take him on the offer later.

Also, Nueng doesn't know how to love and expects to be loved differently and this is why he reacted the way he did. This is also why he started drinking in the first place.