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This is a good one:
https://kisskh.at/6656-the-queens-classroom-2013

Don't watch the drama then. Seriously, I don't follow any of them but man you have some outdated views. She is almost 30, and you treat her like a child who doesn't have a mind of her own. It's not even like he is some ugly old geezer, he looks the same age as she does or even younger. If I didn't look up his age, I wouldn't have thought he is a year above 35, and even that is pushing it.

He is bad, but not "that" bad. It means he is not as bad as you said, because you said "he doesn't deserve to be called a human". Humans cheat and lie, he still didn't lose his humanity. To be fair, she married him knowing he was a cheater, and she was in fact part of it. He is old fashioned, that is why he listens to his mother even when she is being irrational but he still cares about the mother of his children which is humane, and let's not forget that the only reason he married her in the first place was because he was old-fashioned and thought he had to take the responsibility for her. Being old-fashioned can be a good thing or a bad thing. I learned as I got older that I cannot blame people for taking advantage of me when I let them, it's just how people function. Instead, we should say no whenever we don't like something, this makes people who love/care about us aware of what we don't like and they won't expect it from us, saying yes to everything then blaming them for thinking it's okay to accept our yes is unfair. No one can read our mind. Little by little, her family will stop being dependent on her to do everything for them.

He is mean but I don't think he is that bad. Sometimes we allow ourselves to be a push-over for the people we love/care about, and we don't realize before it's too late that this is not the way we get their love. Cha Jung Sook allowed her family to walk all over her and now she is putting her food down. The good thing is that they don't seem to object over her transformation which shows that they actually care about her but they were too comfortable with the previous arrangement that they ignored her struggle.

She studied for the test, she didn't count on her memory from 20 years ago.

The age difference between the mother and daughter is weird, but between her and the 2nd male lead is not. I don't think it's weird at all especially since they didn't act like they were of the same age. She was only 14 (in real life) when he was born, not even an adult, and she is quite fit for her age.

Yes, but it is still a popular concept. I thought it's relevant to the wrong assumption I had of the phone conversation because it raised the question of "how guilty is someone forcing someone else (or implying that they have no choice but) to commit suicide and how liable they are?".

Whether you give them for adoption or give them to foster care. You are still taking them away from their family. And about living in poverty, I'm speaking as a child, not as a parent. As a child, if I were to be given a choice I would chose staying with my family (if they are not extremely abusive). I'm not the country's property, I'm a human being with feelings who like to feel like they belong. Ask the involved children, see if they feel the same way before forcing them to leave. Children do not like to feel like outsiders in their homes. That's why a sibling saying "you are adopted" is considered by children as a form of bullying. Foster care is even worse, not only they don't have the same race/religion but they also don't have the same name. It is a necessary evil, and should only be resorted to if you are out of options. Please understand that I'm not criticizing a country or a whole continent, I'm merely expressing my opinion about a law that favors the rich/well-off in my opinion. You are always welcome to have another opinion.

It's funny that you think you are entitled to speak for a whole continent even though I didn't specify a European country by name. But since you seem to be throwing the idea that it is a myth. It's confirmed in the news by the specific country that they did in fact separate families from their children and gave them to foster families, the reason though remains unclear (and the families are "welcome" to object and go through lengthy exhausting legal process to take their children back), but it is a fact that in that country's law, children can be separated from their families if they are struggling to provide for them, in other words, you don't have the right to build a family if you are poor and you don't have the right to keep your family if you became poor. My point remains as it is, I would chose my family over money any time, I won't replace them with a rich family even if I had the choice, too bad those children didn't have a choice.

Yeah, it's natural to feel some guilt as a human if you have a conscience. But it's not something you hide like you actually murdered her or "blue-whaled" her (as in the blue whale challenge). I always thought because of the way she and everyone was acting, that she must've said something like "I will kill/torture your kid if you don't go now and jump in front of a car", but the real conversation turned out not matching how big of a deal they made it seem to be.

I thought the original poster didn't watch that episode since they didn't seem to have heard the phone conversation so I was mindful of spoiling the episode they didn't watch for them. I sometimes ask questions after watching an episode then I get a reply with a spoiler tag with something spoiling the next episode for me, I only figure out it's not a spoiler for the current episode I'm in after it's too late.

You are obviously bias and have so much prejudice and outdated views so I'm not going to argue with you. The cases I saw in Europe which I'm referring to were of babies, not even walking yet, so minor marriage wasn't a problem.
"If a kid is homeless and starving, living in dirt and sleeping on the streets - isn't it better to give to that child a possibility to live a decent life?"
No it is not. The better solution is to give their family a home or help them get homes by employing them or training them for example, hell not accepting refugees in the first place would've been a better solution, since I'm sure the families regretted ever stepping foot there to ask for help. If I risk my life to come to a country seeking help for my family then ended up losing my children because I couldn't make ends meet, I would've wished I drowned in the sea or died by my enemies' hands so I wouldn't experience the pain of losing a child.

I don't know what country you are talking about but the cases I saw, the babies were snatched and were given to other native families to raise them. Do you think all adopted children would've chosen to be adopted if living with their poor parents was an option? No, I still would've preferred to struggle with my biological family than live thinking I was taken from them or that they have abandoned me.

I love your comment, because depending on the reader's opinion of Han Hye Jin's acting in the drama, it could be read sarcastically and it fits a little too well. XD
I don't mean to diminish your opinion, please don't misunderstand. I just was fascinated by the way it could be read either way.

I didn't see any of Han Hye Jin's earlier roles so I could've failed to see that is was deliberate for her character to be inconsistent. I didn't put any weight to the romance between the leads. I wasn't here for it and I wasn't expecting it or rooting for it. I just thought she was supposed to be sympathetic (not warm because I can't tell if someone is warm based on snippets of their life), but she insists on taking cases out of "sympathy" for the people involved, yet she fails to see one of the most basic triggers of sympathy which is in my example the suffering of an old lady while serving her a meal. You don't usually ignore someone struggling to do a service for you, let alone an old lady. Even a kid would be more uncomfortable watching the grandma serving them food, but she ignored that like she wasn't even in the room when it happened. This seemed absurd to me. This inconsistency happens often. If we blame the writer for it, I still don't think her acting can represent a real human being, she has a single expression but when she reacts she shows a very exaggerated expression that can only be seen in Korean dramas. I really wanted to think that her character matched her acting, but I couldn't, so I envy you, you must've enjoyed the series more.

I didn't mean she committed suicide. I meant the only way the stepmother could be guilty (morally) of her death is if she said "just go die" to someone on the verge of suicide. Not to be on her side or excuse her mean words but they acted like she was the executor, even though the mother may have died anyway. Sorry, I tried so hard to not give any huge spoilers that my previous comment lost meaning. XD

I think she gave away her right though. She wanted the kid to be with his uncle.

We do too, but I think in the US and Europe for example, it's way too easy to take a child from their parents, easier than it should be, if you heard about the refugees and how they snatch their kids away from them just because they are poor or homeless in some of the European countries. That's why I specified South Korea to be safe.
Although, if I may add, in Islamic law, your parents don't have to be dead for the custody to be given to the next in line. If your parents are unfit (drug addicts, physical abusers, neglectful to an extreme..etc), the custody goes to the grandparents, then the uncles/aunts which one is fitter, but of course there must be a strong proof that what the children are experiencing is life threatening, so "lack of love" isn't considered a good reason.

I'm not an expert in law but I don't believe it's that easy to take the custody of a child away from their parents, especially in South Korea where blood means a lot. Until recently, you could even claim the fortune of a child you abandoned after they die just because you gave birth to them.

Yes, the whole phone conversation was showed in episode 11 I think. It wasn't that noteworthy, just some very mean words, but of course understandably it is a big deal if someone was on the verge of suicide.

Han Hye Jin was a huge miscast.
The comedy is 10/10 especially from the three friends.
The emotions are 8/10 from everyone but Lee Seo Jin who everyone seems to do good deeds just to please her even though she herself displays no emotions or apparent sympathy towards others (One scene that comes to mind is the restaurant scene, the rookie lawyer showed way more sympathy towards the grandma's display of pain/discomfort then acted like he was doing the whole thing for Seo Jin who showed no concern at all about the grandma and was like "what's the recipe please").

Bottom Line: This drama would've been great if Lee Seo Jin had disappeared after her trial.

I especially liked the part where everything is explained by the protagonist feeling repentant about his part in the murder. So this wasn't a fantasy after all.