no childish..but thats always Esther do XD Aegyo style is her favorite
i think that's just the character she supposed to potray idk, try watching a romance of little forest, she played kind of like 'diva' character, idk if ppl think it's childish but i certainly dont, in fact that's kind of my fav character of hers
i think saying victor ma only suited for comedic roles might be a disservice to him, even if he think so, bc frankly i havent seen much of his show but i do think his acting talent can be explored more to see what other roles he capable in.
but simply put, this is different production not a sequel but spin off. and bc the novel is really popular & sang yan character itself is the most popular in the shared universe they cant use victor ma. there's a reason why victor ma got some lashing when they first revealed he played sang yan. and i dont think victor ma was ever considered bc of all the rumours of possible ML casting, there were never his name not even after HL aired and the casting rumour has exist since FF announced adaptation (late 2022 iirc) and the casting rumour gotta be one of melons that keep appearing and keep changing bc this is such a popular IP.
when HL first aired, first frost douyin team even took the time to comment that HL sang yan is not the same as FF sang yan, so it's obvious they already had other actor in mind. so they chose an actor that has both looks and acting talent with some reputation among gp (so far his recent drama since 2022 has good amount of views). easily said, they want the drama to be successful. ofc some would still debate that bai jingting do not really fit sang yan look, but out of every sang yan rumours, his acting is the best imo.
probably intl fans dk much about BJT and still prefer VM, but at least in China BJT is more well known for his acting. and for chinese production team, while intl recognition is great, it is always more profitable for them if the drama is successful in mainland. also, sang yan character in first frost and HL are different. sang yan is more like sarcastic cold and indifference than being funny as he was shown in HL
i see so songmo will never stop pissing me off with his constant long for affection from his dumb father, you are a strong general you could literally escape the beating, hopefully this is the last scene bc if i see more of this longing idk if i can continue watchingðŸ˜
can you pls spoil me about the mastermind that kill duke ding and why the majesty cover it up? i was thinking…
i think you need to put a spoiler for this 😂 but thank you! is this the same empress who was beside the emperor when he fainted after knowing Duke Ding has dead? the aunt of song mo's friend? the evil eunuch must be under her right? so the emperor knew from early his wife is the mastermind? im sorry for asking again, prince qing is the prince that song mo help in his first life to take the throne and later betray song mo, correct?
It was good! Deviated from the novel a little, but still manages to stay on course, at least with the main plot…
can you pls spoil me about the mastermind that kill duke ding and why the majesty cover it up? i was thinking thr eunuch but why go to that extent to protect that eunuch
i mtled the novel here. it is quite easy to understand imo, the novel is really long i already stop reading bc i can no longer escape my irl responsibility lol
the novel is much worse and FL is more dumber than she was in the drama but guess who couldnt stop reading? yes me! this is a fun read when you trying to escape your responsibility, she makes me angry but not to the point that blood boils 😂
If you look at things from his subordinates' pov, you’ll probably understand why they acted the way they did.1.…
as i mentioned i understand their suspicions, i do see things from their pov but there were also many undercover women, many female assassins (tho im not sure about historical facts) so while women in those era do not possess the kind of knowledge she did, if they think of her as extraordinary and have the means then it is not that weird. everything about her is suspicious but it does not mean colluding with the uncle is the only thing, she could be in some secret organisation for all we know (if this was in other drama) my point is they could not even spare her some doubt, not even thinking out loud, not even once, that she might not in the same page with the uncle when song mo himself was different from his father. imo they just want easy conclusion for her suspicious behaviour. all i need is simply a one moment of doubt, idc that the opinion of her is with her uncle is the stronger opinion, it make sense anyway, but at least if it were me i would be listing all the possibilities and weighing between my options, but they seem to be set only on one conclusion from the start.
song mo and his subordinate are so pretentious it's actually pissing me off, his father is bordeline corrupt official…
song mo i havent even settled with the fact that you still long for your father affection in early episodes, i consider dropping the show simply bc of that bc it's character like his be pissing me off the most than evil characters 😠like know your worth!!
song mo and his subordinate are so pretentious it's actually pissing me off, his father is bordeline corrupt official but he himself was not but they had the audacity to suspect her colluding with her uncle again and again. ofc they dont know so the suspicion was valid but the fact that his subordinate do not even consider that she could not be in collusion was seriously so annoying, like you had the example of song mo himself who was different from the father and you cant even spare some doubt that she might be different
I think most of the bad reception came from atleast one of the ff factors:1. Slow mature drama but wrong viewers.…
for me personally she has roles she can act and roles that she cant. i love her in encounter but i absolute cannot tolerate her acting in dots. but i would watch her show if it interest me and the character she played aligned with what i like to see from her 😅
just search first frost chinese novel and you will find it. i personally dont recommend the manhua first, love the art but so many feelings are lost imo, the novel is just better!
so confuse about charles real identity, i thought he was the real son of the eatery ahjumma? also the revenge was unsatisfying, the bad guy (the adults) had it way too easy and wasnt hated enough by the NPC's
why eunki encouraging sungjoon to meet his brother is beyond me and the idea to fool everyone even sungjoon is so silly bc what if he get caught??? this part is really stupid im sorry, yes he is the mastermind but what if sungjoon cant escape? ig he just doesnt care if that happen
sungjoon is just soooo unlikeable, i pretty much know all the spoilers needed except his story so maybe i will…
idk why he very much against on listening to JMC, JMC has alibi, eventho he didnt trust him it doesnt hurt to listen but he even get so angry like bro need to chill.
sungjoon is just soooo unlikeable, i pretty much know all the spoilers needed except his story so maybe i will understand him later but he is just arrogant and hot headed so he is getting on my nerves rn. i also find him quite stupid for a detective. idk why they never thought to ask eunki how long JMC been taking her hostage after they caught him again. also him still being nice or even entertaining his parents and brother is pissing me off, he just tick off everything i hate in a character ðŸ˜
but simply put, this is different production not a sequel but spin off. and bc the novel is really popular & sang yan character itself is the most popular in the shared universe they cant use victor ma. there's a reason why victor ma got some lashing when they first revealed he played sang yan. and i dont think victor ma was ever considered bc of all the rumours of possible ML casting, there were never his name not even after HL aired and the casting rumour has exist since FF announced adaptation (late 2022 iirc) and the casting rumour gotta be one of melons that keep appearing and keep changing bc this is such a popular IP.
when HL first aired, first frost douyin team even took the time to comment that HL sang yan is not the same as FF sang yan, so it's obvious they already had other actor in mind. so they chose an actor that has both looks and acting talent with some reputation among gp (so far his recent drama since 2022 has good amount of views). easily said, they want the drama to be successful. ofc some would still debate that bai jingting do not really fit sang yan look, but out of every sang yan rumours, his acting is the best imo.
probably intl fans dk much about BJT and still prefer VM, but at least in China BJT is more well known for his acting. and for chinese production team, while intl recognition is great, it is always more profitable for them if the drama is successful in mainland. also, sang yan character in first frost and HL are different. sang yan is more like sarcastic cold and indifference than being funny as he was shown in HL
i mtled the novel here. it is quite easy to understand imo, the novel is really long i already stop reading bc i can no longer escape my irl responsibility lol