I almost dropped it after watching the first 2-3 episodes.
1 anti-hero is fine but I felt there were too many and I especially hated how the female lead was protecting the corrupt rich people and stopping the innocent from getting justice. I legit thought to myself: "she needs a wake-up call, she needs to fall to learn how hard it can be to stand up. If that does not happen, I think I will drop this drama." ....Then episode 3 happened.
After that I started liking the next episodes more and more and now I regret not waiting for this to finish airing before watching.
This is a very well-written drama. It has just enough of each genre and the story is predictable enough that it does not leave you confused but at the same time you only know some things when it is the right time. I cannot wait to watch the next episodes.
I don’t blame you at all—but what makes me cry is that such a good drama is going completely under the radar…
I actually worked in anime subbing translating from English to my native language. It was many years ago, I was still a teenager. I am now 27 years old so the subbing process might be a little easier now but I believe it still takes a lot of time to sub. In one episode you have hundreds of sentences that have not only to be translated but also timed perfectly.
It is definitely not an easy job and seeing so many fans doing it voluntarily is something everyone should be grateful for...yet you always find people complaining here and there. Sigh
I don’t blame you at all—but what makes me cry is that such a good drama is going completely under the radar…
Yeah. I have worked in subbing many years ago and it is very time consuming, especially the timing part. It can take up to 6 hours to complete one single episode.
Let me know when this gets proper subs and not auto-translated ones.
I cannot focus on the drama when the subs make no sense. Dont judge me. lol
P.S. - As I commented a month ago, the title makes me want to cry...so I was not surprised when I found out the subs were not human translations. I think even the title is the result of a Google translation. RIP
I have yet to finish this as its dragging from the mid episode
Yeah, I dont remember the plot since I watched this over 2 years ago but judging from my comment it was probably extremely draggy but at the same time I kept watching just to know where things were going.
As an overweight person who is currently losing weight, I was not really bothered by it. I think they were trying…
Yeah, at my heaviest I was near 100kg and my hands never looked like pig trotters. LOL
Right now I am a little under 84kg. Had to change some habits because of health issues so now I do intermittent fasting, eat twice a day and try to eat low carb (when possible cause I love toast, pasta, pizza, cake, everything with carbs RIP). I also drink a lot of tea instead of juice and soda.
I dont exercise much and spend almost the entire day laying down and have consistently been losing weight for months. I do intend to start exercising more regularly....some day.
I don't agree with your comment about recent jdramas seemingly looking like soft-porn at all, makes me curious…
Yeah, I have actually worked in fansubing many years ago and it takes a long time to sub one episode. The timing part is specially time consuming. 1 episode can take up to 6 hours to have the subs ready.
So I respect the work of subbers a lot and cannot stand when people try to demand things from them like to sub faster or to sub a certain drama and also sharing and re-uploading the episodes.
Some people on the internet dont know how to be grateful so I dont blame the subbers if they get tired of this kind of people and just give up subbing. Also, they have a life outside of subbing and sometimes they have to give up subbing in order to focus on more important things like family, work, studies, etc.
I don't agree with your comment about recent jdramas seemingly looking like soft-porn at all, makes me curious…
Yeah, someone said something similar to what you said. After thinking about it, that person has a point. This kind of drama gets popular because it provides fan service and hot scenes and some people are just looking for that. And because of that reason I keep having this kind of drama be recommended to me and making me believe that a lot of recent dramas are like this.
But I do have at least 5 jdramas in my plan-to-watch list that have good plots so I know that not all jdramas are like this one.
I think this idea I had that most recent dramas are like this came from the fact that jdramas have only 1 episode released a week and subs can take longer than they take for other Asian dramas so I do not watch enough jdramas a year to see things clearly.
I don't agree with your comment about recent jdramas seemingly looking like soft-porn at all, makes me curious…
I guess this could be to someone’s liking but I would rather watch something with more depth. I personally dont even consider this kind of drama as romance. For me romance does not happen just because you have people on screen making out. There needs to be feelings involved. But that is just my point of view.
You mentioned things like infidelity/sexual content are common in western shows, and you are absolutely right. And that is one of the main reasons I watch Asian dramas. I am tired of love being depicted as sexual attraction. Its not the same thing. Yes, sexual attraction is also important but it should not be the main thing that is shown in a show to prove that the characters are in love.
I need them to spend time together, that is not making out or having sex, and showing their care for each other in practical ways for me to believe that these characters are in love. Otherwise, I dont buy it.
I don't agree with your comment about recent jdramas seemingly looking like soft-porn at all, makes me curious…
I dont actively look for new jdramas so I just check out the ones that show up. I guess it is like you said, for some reason they are the kind of dramas that are popular and get recommended to me. Says a lot about people’s preferences nowadays. They would rather watch some fan service with hot scenes than an actual well-written plot with good acting. Sigh
I don't agree with your comment about recent jdramas seemingly looking like soft-porn at all, makes me curious…
By recent I mean in the past few years, not necessarily 2020 or 2021. I have quite a few jdramas on my plan to watch list that I believe should be good. But yeah, lately I have come across way too many jdramas like this one. I agree that for someone new these kinds of dramas really do paint a bad picture.
Unfortunately, as someone who has been watching dramas for 11 years, I have noticed jdramas in the past few years are going towards a trend of infidelity and sexual content with very superficial plots. :(
Of course, this does not mean that every jdrama is following this trend. But definitely way more than what I would have expected.
Hehe just came from your comment on Pieng Jai Tee Pook Pun. Will give this a try!
Yeah, I got the notification from that reply too. XD I watched this one as it was airing so I am not sure you will enjoy it as much if you binge-watch it. But yeah, give it a try. Like I said, the way the plot is written makes you keep guessing but there is a lot of frustrating things like the way the female lead is treated, so you will have to get over that to enjoy the plot as it is.
Like I said, I would not re-watch it so it means this is not an amazing drama, but it is definitely better than the average thai drama in terms of script writing. So give it a try and let me know what you think once you finish it.
For me it was nice to see a more "adult" love. So many are kid romances lol I feel like the 2nd couple is less…
The thing is the drama was too short to develop an adult love. You need time to get to know someone for you to love that person. If you meet someone and sleep with that person right away, that is not love, its lust.
The plot is too rushed for me to believe any of these characters loved each other and they were not just "friends with benefits".
I am actually surprised this has such a high rating. I have watched all kinds of dramas for the past 11 years and this one definitely did not do well in delivering whatever it had intended. First of all, it has the genres of comedy, romance and drama. Except there is none to very little comedy, there is definitely some drama and there is romance BUT this is very business focused although it is not one of the genres here and the business part was extremely boring. I have watched many business focused dramas and this one definitely did not make the business part interesting.
The romance was nice and all but it was slow-paced which would be expected since she was dating someone else at the start and needed time to get over him, but still it was meh, I dont know how to explain, I felt nothing. I did not smile at their romantic scenes like I usually do in all other dramas that have romance.
The cast was great but the way the story was told was boring and the characters were not relatable to me.
Someone else started a review by saying "Only enjoyable if you feel a connect with any of the characters" and I definitely agree with that. I did not connect to any of the characters and that was probably why I was bored most of the time and kept skipping scenes. Maybe you will connect to someone and enjoy this drama, but I certainly didnt.
BTW this season filled with fantastic ongoing J dramas (read great writing, acting, direction). You should totally…
I liked the Korean version but did not love it. Also found it to be a bit too dramatic. I am hoping the Japanese version will make up for what the original was lacking or had too much of.
BTW this season filled with fantastic ongoing J dramas (read great writing, acting, direction). You should totally…
I have most of these in my plan to watch list. But I will check the other ones out.
Shitteru Waifu is a remake of a Korean drama I already watched so I know the plot should be good and Horimiya I am thinking of watching the anime first and then the drama, just waiting for all the episodes of the anime to be out.
Some great recommendations you have right there. ^ ^
TRUST ME - it is as bad as other people are saying. There is no plot or character development whatsoever, the pace is completely off, it just feels like the start of a really bad porn.
More and more often I am seeing this with jdramas. There is no clear distinction between dramas and soft-porn. You think you are sitting down to watch a romance drama and then suddenly you are watching porn. Imagine if you sit down to watch this with someone else, how awkward it would be.
Anyway, unless you are looking for something steamy with no plot, you better not waste your time with this one. Even the steamy scenes are nothing special so there is really nothing about this that is worth watching.
Your review is so reasonable, I feel like you really gave an unbiased but informed opinion. It's hard for me to…
I can definitely understand your feelings. I was able to keep my cool just because I read some spoilers before I actually got to the episode the male lead turned into a moron. So I was prepared for what was coming and completely gave up any expectations I had so I did not feel as angry as if I was caught by surprise.
I agree with what you said about them turning into a worse version of what they wanted to do a parody of. It kind of reminds me of this movie that has caused a lot of controversy and that I will never watch for the sake of my sanity - Cuties. They supposedly wanted to criticize child sexualization but did that by sexualizing children for the entire movie. That is like saying that animal cruelty is wrong and to prove their point they beat up a dog and then say: see, the dog is hurt, the dog is crying, the dog has feelings, dont hit dogs. Like seriously??
So I can definitely understand how frustrated and angry you feel. This could have actually been a good drama if they went with the premise from the first episode of them having a hobby in common and him finding her interesting without even knowing who she is and looking for her when it turns out she was by his side the entire time. But no, they wanted to do a parody that NO ONE, NO ONE, aside from them, found funny. Sigh
That route would have been easier but sadly, this series is based on a very popular Gugoryeo folktale so it’s…
Yeah. The production of this drama was put in a really bad spot. They could not really just get rid of this character, I mean, its not just random character they added in the middle of the story - its the male lead. And he plays a huge part in the plot. So changing the actor was really the best option.
But now they have to film over half of the drama again, pay more to the actors for their time, probably delay the airing date of some episodes and people will probably still complain about the change in actors if they are not aware of what is going on. Any other drama would be ruined after this. Lets hope they keep the story interesting enough and the new actor does well so this gets good ratings.
I have a hard time seeing someone else playing the same character cause I associate the character with a face, so I think I would prefer if they just added a completely new character. But at the same time On Dal plays an important role in the plot, so I can imagine how difficult it was for the production to make these changes. Either way the drama would suffer from this decision.
Anyway, I will keep watching cause I like the story and to show my support to the other actors that were caught in this mess.
1 anti-hero is fine but I felt there were too many and I especially hated how the female lead was protecting the corrupt rich people and stopping the innocent from getting justice. I legit thought to myself: "she needs a wake-up call, she needs to fall to learn how hard it can be to stand up. If that does not happen, I think I will drop this drama." ....Then episode 3 happened.
After that I started liking the next episodes more and more and now I regret not waiting for this to finish airing before watching.
This is a very well-written drama. It has just enough of each genre and the story is predictable enough that it does not leave you confused but at the same time you only know some things when it is the right time. I cannot wait to watch the next episodes.
It is definitely not an easy job and seeing so many fans doing it voluntarily is something everyone should be grateful for...yet you always find people complaining here and there. Sigh
I cannot focus on the drama when the subs make no sense. Dont judge me. lol
P.S. - As I commented a month ago, the title makes me want to cry...so I was not surprised when I found out the subs were not human translations. I think even the title is the result of a Google translation. RIP
Right now I am a little under 84kg. Had to change some habits because of health issues so now I do intermittent fasting, eat twice a day and try to eat low carb (when possible cause I love toast, pasta, pizza, cake, everything with carbs RIP). I also drink a lot of tea instead of juice and soda.
I dont exercise much and spend almost the entire day laying down and have consistently been losing weight for months. I do intend to start exercising more regularly....some day.
So I respect the work of subbers a lot and cannot stand when people try to demand things from them like to sub faster or to sub a certain drama and also sharing and re-uploading the episodes.
Some people on the internet dont know how to be grateful so I dont blame the subbers if they get tired of this kind of people and just give up subbing. Also, they have a life outside of subbing and sometimes they have to give up subbing in order to focus on more important things like family, work, studies, etc.
But I do have at least 5 jdramas in my plan-to-watch list that have good plots so I know that not all jdramas are like this one.
I think this idea I had that most recent dramas are like this came from the fact that jdramas have only 1 episode released a week and subs can take longer than they take for other Asian dramas so I do not watch enough jdramas a year to see things clearly.
You mentioned things like infidelity/sexual content are common in western shows, and you are absolutely right. And that is one of the main reasons I watch Asian dramas. I am tired of love being depicted as sexual attraction. Its not the same thing. Yes, sexual attraction is also important but it should not be the main thing that is shown in a show to prove that the characters are in love.
I need them to spend time together, that is not making out or having sex, and showing their care for each other in practical ways for me to believe that these characters are in love. Otherwise, I dont buy it.
Unfortunately, as someone who has been watching dramas for 11 years, I have noticed jdramas in the past few years are going towards a trend of infidelity and sexual content with very superficial plots. :(
Of course, this does not mean that every jdrama is following this trend. But definitely way more than what I would have expected.
I watched this one as it was airing so I am not sure you will enjoy it as much if you binge-watch it. But yeah, give it a try. Like I said, the way the plot is written makes you keep guessing but there is a lot of frustrating things like the way the female lead is treated, so you will have to get over that to enjoy the plot as it is.
Like I said, I would not re-watch it so it means this is not an amazing drama, but it is definitely better than the average thai drama in terms of script writing. So give it a try and let me know what you think once you finish it.
The plot is too rushed for me to believe any of these characters loved each other and they were not just "friends with benefits".
The romance was nice and all but it was slow-paced which would be expected since she was dating someone else at the start and needed time to get over him, but still it was meh, I dont know how to explain, I felt nothing. I did not smile at their romantic scenes like I usually do in all other dramas that have romance.
The cast was great but the way the story was told was boring and the characters were not relatable to me.
Someone else started a review by saying "Only enjoyable if you feel a connect with any of the characters" and I definitely agree with that. I did not connect to any of the characters and that was probably why I was bored most of the time and kept skipping scenes. Maybe you will connect to someone and enjoy this drama, but I certainly didnt.
Shitteru Waifu is a remake of a Korean drama I already watched so I know the plot should be good and Horimiya I am thinking of watching the anime first and then the drama, just waiting for all the episodes of the anime to be out.
Some great recommendations you have right there. ^ ^
More and more often I am seeing this with jdramas. There is no clear distinction between dramas and soft-porn. You think you are sitting down to watch a romance drama and then suddenly you are watching porn. Imagine if you sit down to watch this with someone else, how awkward it would be.
Anyway, unless you are looking for something steamy with no plot, you better not waste your time with this one. Even the steamy scenes are nothing special so there is really nothing about this that is worth watching.
I agree with what you said about them turning into a worse version of what they wanted to do a parody of. It kind of reminds me of this movie that has caused a lot of controversy and that I will never watch for the sake of my sanity - Cuties. They supposedly wanted to criticize child sexualization but did that by sexualizing children for the entire movie. That is like saying that animal cruelty is wrong and to prove their point they beat up a dog and then say: see, the dog is hurt, the dog is crying, the dog has feelings, dont hit dogs. Like seriously??
So I can definitely understand how frustrated and angry you feel. This could have actually been a good drama if they went with the premise from the first episode of them having a hobby in common and him finding her interesting without even knowing who she is and looking for her when it turns out she was by his side the entire time. But no, they wanted to do a parody that NO ONE, NO ONE, aside from them, found funny. Sigh
But now they have to film over half of the drama again, pay more to the actors for their time, probably delay the airing date of some episodes and people will probably still complain about the change in actors if they are not aware of what is going on. Any other drama would be ruined after this. Lets hope they keep the story interesting enough and the new actor does well so this gets good ratings.
Anyway, I will keep watching cause I like the story and to show my support to the other actors that were caught in this mess.