Is this good ? I am currently watching other 2-3 dramas. I am planning to watch this one. How is it ??
It's a slow burn drama focusing on one serial murder case. Based on the 14 eps released so far, everything is tying up together and I really appreciate the amount of detail that the writer put into this drama.
Not a whole lot of action, but it's more of a study of layered and complex characters and how this serial murder case has affected their lives.
Great directing, very solid script, wonderful acting everywhere especially from the leads, amazing music, I love everything.
I thought HJW is already prepared emotionally that's why Dongshik keeps on asking him. Maybe he thought, his father…
True. HJW has no problems bringing his own self down so I believe that after this revelation, he won't stop at nothing to get his father punished.
When LDS first told HJW that he should also suspect his father, HJW may have been in denial during their conversatiob. But as soon as he got home, he didn't think twice about adding HKH to the list of people he must suspect.
Let's hope both Dongshik and Joowon get through this ordeal safe and sound.
Ohh! Thanks for explaining the rabbit part! I always replay that part, but now I understand!I really waited to…
Same I waited so long for HJW's backstory and the writer did not disappoint and now my heart hurts. It now ties up as to why HJW grew up the way he is.
He knew his father is an absolute POS but he at least thought of him as someone with integrity in his line of work. But turns out his father also didn't have that.
What a truly fitting quote. Forest of Secrets is a really great drama ㅜㅜ
I don't think there's anything wrong with enjoying either ships. I like to think of Dongshik and Joowon as soulmates…
Yup, I personally love both❤ I can't help but squeal when Dongshik and Joowok bicker like an old married couple or when one comes to the other's rescue. They started from a place of absolute conflict but we eventually see them develop their relationship into a great partnership, with both of them truly caring for each other no matter how hard they deny it.
As for Joowon and Jaeyi they also have an affection for one another, which may or may not be romantic. I'd like to see them develop their relationship even more in the end whether it be just as a very close friendship or something more.
I don't think there's anything wrong with enjoying either ships. I like to think of Dongshik and Joowon as soulmates…
Actually majority of the comments are talking about Dongshik and Joowon's great chemistry. Anyway I'm just saying both pairings are both worth enjoying. I didn't mean it as you trashing at them, I just gave an answer why people like both ships since you said you don't know why they're talking about JW-JY.
idk why y'all talking about joowon and jaeyi potentially hooking up when its clearly the bromance between our…
I don't think there's anything wrong with enjoying either ships. I like to think of Dongshik and Joowon as soulmates and with Joowon and Jaeyi, they both started sharing a mutual understanding from the moment they had a connection from not having their mothers around. Both don't need to be necessarily romantic but I see why people ship those pairings. Just let people enjoy what they like.
My heart just broke for little Joowon. His mom was both suicidal and an alcoholic. Goes to show just how toxic it is to be with someone like HKH. Joowon truly cared for his mom but her being unstable, she ended up leaving a huge trauma to him. Hearing from his own mom that she would leave him behind to such a trashy man in return of being let go. No wonder he grew up the way he did. Alien to the thought of having a family figure to rely on. HJW said he never looked for her. So she was placed in a mental institution all along and probably died there as well? It took 27 years for HJW to finally find a place that would truly treat him as one of their own.
I've been trying to think where I saw the actress playing Joowon's mom. That unique smile wih anguished eyes just felt so familiar and then I saw the comment saying she played Seo Yeaji's mom in IOTNBO and it clicked on me.
I knew HJW deliberately told his father about tipping off the press so he can assess whether to fully suspect HKH or not. The press tip off wasn't meant to be a success or failure in terms of sabotaging HKH's hearing. It was meant for HJW to gauge just how much his own father is hiding. What I didn't know was that he set up even his own arrest too. His own arrest was the one intended to throw his father off the loop.
Kwon Hyeok is a very interesting character. He is a total wild card. He just wants full acceptance into HKH's inner circle, but like what HJW said, HKH only trusts himself. I used to find Kwon Hyeok to be suspicious for all his toadying but at this point ai also don't think he means to have any malicious intent. He will probably work to help with HJW after this.
So they're saying HKH got rid of landowners so they can proceed with the construction. Got rid as in killed? Like the bodies they found in LCJ's land were the bodies of those landowners? I need another rewatch to fully understand hahahaha.
In the episode HJW talked about wolves hunting down a rabbit. He created a fake chase to distract HKH from the fact that he had him bugged all along. In the flashback, HJW was holding a rabbit stuffed toy. At the end of the episode, he is actually the rabbit who gets cornered from all sides with this episode's revelation. The way Yeo Jin Goo's face went through all sorts of pent up emotions. When he walked out into the rain the way his face looked lost and in despair to fully turning angry and monstrous.
I love the parallel of Jungje and Joowon confronting their parents regarding their dirty works in the past. They played mind games with their own parents to find out the actual truth and it was glorious.
HJW's visit to his dad was basically him telling his father he'll give a tip off to the press regarding the land bribery so obviously his dad ended up prepared. HJW set it up as a test so he can find out how honest his father is, and his father coming to the hearing with a prepared lie is him realizing how corrupt his father truly is. HJW's contempt on his face at his father blatantly lying was amazing to watch. The thing is, HJW always knew his father to be shitty, but he at least believed him to be honest at his work. But this has proven just how trashy he truly is both as a person and as a policeman and there is more he must find out about him.
Why did HKH hire LDS in General Investigation Unit? I wonder if HJW is in on the plan of getting arrested during the hearing or maybe not.
I can't help but laugh whenever Joowon is intentionally pissing his father off.
I love Jaeyi and Jungje's conversation about making sure that Jungje will receive his punishment. It's like Jaeyi indirectly telling Jungje to not take the easy way out of this mess (doing what Jinmook did) and that he must face the consequences of his actions. It was a simple dialogue with them saying the same thing over and over but it spoke volumes.
Unlike Mouse, Beyond Evil has more slow story and less action. And It has just one big case with so many mysteries…
Ep 7 is where it really hits how well the writer has thought out every piece of the puzzle in this drama. And now we're nearing towards the end the mind games these characters are playing still give me so much excitement!
With all due respect. Mouse was absolutely promising to began with up to the wonky brain transplant part, it’s…
I don't mean to offend you, I understand you have your problems with Mouse, but this comment has absolutely nothing to do with Beyond Evil at all. People might misunderstand that this has become a page to drag another show and I'm hoping it won't be that way. Let's keep our discussions here in Beyond Evil page related to Beyond Evil. Thank you!
Beyond evil is a top notch show.As an avid k-drama fan for the last 7-8 years i’ve have to say Yeo Jin Goo is…
The way Yeo Jin Goo controls his expressions is truly impressive. He can convey so many things through very small but absolutely detailed expressions and he's still very young. Watching his projects is always a joy because of the wide range of roles he takes on everytime. He really has a very bright future ahead of him.
Why does Jaehi work with the cops?Why is juwon so bent on DS? Why does he think himself clever when all he does…
[Why does Jaeyi work with the cops?]
- It's been established that Manyang works together as a community. They don't operate by the book. Jaeyi is a smart girl as we have seen her figure out who texted Jinmook using Minjung's phone. She's been very much connected with the Manyang police since her mother's disappearance. They also use her butcher shop as a meeting place. One of the drama's taglines is the willingness to throw law and principle in order to find who the monster is.
[Why is juwon so bent on DS? Why does he think himself clever when all he does is fabricate evidence, which just won't stand in court but even drag his father in the mud? He is not really smart, is he?]
- If you will look at things from HJW's POV his actions actually make a whole lot of sense? We've seen LDS's POV so we are completely aware he isn't the culprit. But the thing is, HJW doesn't have the access we have in watching LDS's entire backstory. All he has are evidences which are leading to LDS. Which LDS deliberately made to lead to him in the first place cos he wants to use HJW's connection to get the case solved.
- HJW is not stupid. He is actually very smart for figuring out a bunch of things by himself. He figured out LDS stole the case files. He figured out that it's really LDS who moved the fingers. He figured out all on his own that Jaeyi's mom was actually a victim too. At the end of the day, Dongshik still committed a crime by tampering with the evidences to get her sister's case solved instead of immediately reporting what happened. Had he reported what happened, Minjung would have lived.
- Now I'll address HJW fabricating the evidences. I assume you mean the one with Chief Nam Sangbae, AKA the only time HJW fabricated evidences. When he was in Busan he realized that the Chief knew something about Kang Jinmook's death. So he created another bait, a bait that followed LDS's early moves to lure HJW in the case. This time, he is making the exact same moves that LDS did in the beginning to lure LDS into doubting the other Manyang people. Because the Manyang community is obviously hiding something. He made all these moves, like sending an email to Jaeyi and looking directly at the CCTV, to let Dongshik know that yup, it's really Joowon behind all these moves and Dongshik won't be able to prove it was him. Joowon sent the email from the internet cafe in his officetel, but Dongshik, don't have access to the CCTV in the internet cafe. He won't be able to prove it was Joowon. Joowon looked at the CCTV, what was wrong with that? A bunch of people went in and out of the Chief's office that night. Again, nothing to connect the action of placing the fabricated evidences to Joowon.
- Han Joowon is a very smart character, but what he lacked at the beginning of this show is the wisdom and experience. He is rather booksmart, not streetsmart. He is still very young and he made some very reckless decisions which he eventually learned from.
[Why are all the disabled in the show 'faking' it and they are the actual serial killers? Is Juwon next?? (it is a FAR FAR SHOT from 'the ususal suspects... how they butchered my boy!!!)]
- Faking disabilities actually makes these people even more awful. And what disability Joowon has? What? "Oooh I'll just namedrop a very popular movie by a pedophile so I can sound vErY sMarT!!11!" Oh, get over yourself. You can't even understand the most basic things in this drama.
[Why the f*ck is everyone so goddamned smug? Why are useless miniquests being formed as a filler?? WHY?]
- Everyone? Are you sure? List every character and every "smug" thing they have done, go ahead. And when these people are being smug, have you even bothered to understand what they are being smug for? Or are you just too busy making a counter in your head you didn't bother to understand the point of what you're watching?
[What's up with everyone shitting on HJW's 'brother'? They all know in all interactions they are playing each other- but it's not in a 'deathnote' sense but like cringy 13 year olds!!! ]
- Everyone shitting on Hyeok? You mean HJW and his father? That's your everyone or are you talking about the viewers? I mean Hyeok really is obviously trying to climb his way up to the top and those at the top are looking down on him. Hyeok has his motivations for toadying to Joowon's family and his obvious toadying makes them look down on him. The characters in this drama aren't pure black and white. They are morally grey characters who do a range of things whether it be righteous or questionable.
[HOW CAN ANYONE CONSIDER THAT A THRILLER?? A MASTERPIECE??]
- Because it is a masterpiece to the people who said it is a masterpiece, whether you agree or not. Not the fault of the majority that you disagree, nothing we can do about it. I mean, that's your problem, man.
[Seeing the twist writer ajjuma is dishing out, I wouldn't be surprised if the hairdo-gambling club is working with the mafia, and is actually behind the killings!!!]
- Well I wish you all the best on your theory!
Sincerely, a person who believes Beyond Evil is a masterpiece so far based on Eps 1-12. My opinion may or may not change depending on how the writer concludes the story. But so far, I'm loving it.
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Not a whole lot of action, but it's more of a study of layered and complex characters and how this serial murder case has affected their lives.
Great directing, very solid script, wonderful acting everywhere especially from the leads, amazing music, I love everything.
When LDS first told HJW that he should also suspect his father, HJW may have been in denial during their conversatiob. But as soon as he got home, he didn't think twice about adding HKH to the list of people he must suspect.
Let's hope both Dongshik and Joowon get through this ordeal safe and sound.
He knew his father is an absolute POS but he at least thought of him as someone with integrity in his line of work. But turns out his father also didn't have that.
What a truly fitting quote. Forest of Secrets is a really great drama ㅜㅜ
As for Joowon and Jaeyi they also have an affection for one another, which may or may not be romantic. I'd like to see them develop their relationship even more in the end whether it be just as a very close friendship or something more.
My heart just broke for little Joowon. His mom was both suicidal and an alcoholic. Goes to show just how toxic it is to be with someone like HKH. Joowon truly cared for his mom but her being unstable, she ended up leaving a huge trauma to him. Hearing from his own mom that she would leave him behind to such a trashy man in return of being let go. No wonder he grew up the way he did. Alien to the thought of having a family figure to rely on. HJW said he never looked for her. So she was placed in a mental institution all along and probably died there as well? It took 27 years for HJW to finally find a place that would truly treat him as one of their own.
I've been trying to think where I saw the actress playing Joowon's mom. That unique smile wih anguished eyes just felt so familiar and then I saw the comment saying she played Seo Yeaji's mom in IOTNBO and it clicked on me.
I knew HJW deliberately told his father about tipping off the press so he can assess whether to fully suspect HKH or not. The press tip off wasn't meant to be a success or failure in terms of sabotaging HKH's hearing. It was meant for HJW to gauge just how much his own father is hiding. What I didn't know was that he set up even his own arrest too. His own arrest was the one intended to throw his father off the loop.
Kwon Hyeok is a very interesting character. He is a total wild card. He just wants full acceptance into HKH's inner circle, but like what HJW said, HKH only trusts himself. I used to find Kwon Hyeok to be suspicious for all his toadying but at this point ai also don't think he means to have any malicious intent. He will probably work to help with HJW after this.
So they're saying HKH got rid of landowners so they can proceed with the construction. Got rid as in killed? Like the bodies they found in LCJ's land were the bodies of those landowners? I need another rewatch to fully understand hahahaha.
In the episode HJW talked about wolves hunting down a rabbit. He created a fake chase to distract HKH from the fact that he had him bugged all along. In the flashback, HJW was holding a rabbit stuffed toy. At the end of the episode, he is actually the rabbit who gets cornered from all sides with this episode's revelation. The way Yeo Jin Goo's face went through all sorts of pent up emotions. When he walked out into the rain the way his face looked lost and in despair to fully turning angry and monstrous.
HJW's visit to his dad was basically him telling his father he'll give a tip off to the press regarding the land bribery so obviously his dad ended up prepared. HJW set it up as a test so he can find out how honest his father is, and his father coming to the hearing with a prepared lie is him realizing how corrupt his father truly is. HJW's contempt on his face at his father blatantly lying was amazing to watch. The thing is, HJW always knew his father to be shitty, but he at least believed him to be honest at his work. But this has proven just how trashy he truly is both as a person and as a policeman and there is more he must find out about him.
Why did HKH hire LDS in General Investigation Unit? I wonder if HJW is in on the plan of getting arrested during the hearing or maybe not.
I can't help but laugh whenever Joowon is intentionally pissing his father off.
I love Jaeyi and Jungje's conversation about making sure that Jungje will receive his punishment. It's like Jaeyi indirectly telling Jungje to not take the easy way out of this mess (doing what Jinmook did) and that he must face the consequences of his actions. It was a simple dialogue with them saying the same thing over and over but it spoke volumes.
I'm so glad Jihwa is divorced from that toad.
- It's been established that Manyang works together as a community. They don't operate by the book. Jaeyi is a smart girl as we have seen her figure out who texted Jinmook using Minjung's phone. She's been very much connected with the Manyang police since her mother's disappearance. They also use her butcher shop as a meeting place. One of the drama's taglines is the willingness to throw law and principle in order to find who the monster is.
[Why is juwon so bent on DS? Why does he think himself clever when all he does is fabricate evidence, which just won't stand in court but even drag his father in the mud? He is not really smart, is he?]
- If you will look at things from HJW's POV his actions actually make a whole lot of sense? We've seen LDS's POV so we are completely aware he isn't the culprit. But the thing is, HJW doesn't have the access we have in watching LDS's entire backstory. All he has are evidences which are leading to LDS. Which LDS deliberately made to lead to him in the first place cos he wants to use HJW's connection to get the case solved.
- HJW is not stupid. He is actually very smart for figuring out a bunch of things by himself. He figured out LDS stole the case files. He figured out that it's really LDS who moved the fingers. He figured out all on his own that Jaeyi's mom was actually a victim too. At the end of the day, Dongshik still committed a crime by tampering with the evidences to get her sister's case solved instead of immediately reporting what happened. Had he reported what happened, Minjung would have lived.
- Now I'll address HJW fabricating the evidences. I assume you mean the one with Chief Nam Sangbae, AKA the only time HJW fabricated evidences. When he was in Busan he realized that the Chief knew something about Kang Jinmook's death. So he created another bait, a bait that followed LDS's early moves to lure HJW in the case. This time, he is making the exact same moves that LDS did in the beginning to lure LDS into doubting the other Manyang people. Because the Manyang community is obviously hiding something. He made all these moves, like sending an email to Jaeyi and looking directly at the CCTV, to let Dongshik know that yup, it's really Joowon behind all these moves and Dongshik won't be able to prove it was him. Joowon sent the email from the internet cafe in his officetel, but Dongshik, don't have access to the CCTV in the internet cafe. He won't be able to prove it was Joowon. Joowon looked at the CCTV, what was wrong with that? A bunch of people went in and out of the Chief's office that night. Again, nothing to connect the action of placing the fabricated evidences to Joowon.
- Han Joowon is a very smart character, but what he lacked at the beginning of this show is the wisdom and experience. He is rather booksmart, not streetsmart. He is still very young and he made some very reckless decisions which he eventually learned from.
[Why are all the disabled in the show 'faking' it and they are the actual serial killers? Is Juwon next?? (it is a FAR FAR SHOT from 'the ususal suspects... how they butchered my boy!!!)]
- Faking disabilities actually makes these people even more awful. And what disability Joowon has? What? "Oooh I'll just namedrop a very popular movie by a pedophile so I can sound vErY sMarT!!11!" Oh, get over yourself. You can't even understand the most basic things in this drama.
[Why the f*ck is everyone so goddamned smug? Why are useless miniquests being formed as a filler?? WHY?]
- Everyone? Are you sure? List every character and every "smug" thing they have done, go ahead. And when these people are being smug, have you even bothered to understand what they are being smug for? Or are you just too busy making a counter in your head you didn't bother to understand the point of what you're watching?
[What's up with everyone shitting on HJW's 'brother'? They all know in all interactions they are playing each other- but it's not in a 'deathnote' sense but like cringy 13 year olds!!! ]
- Everyone shitting on Hyeok? You mean HJW and his father? That's your everyone or are you talking about the viewers? I mean Hyeok really is obviously trying to climb his way up to the top and those at the top are looking down on him. Hyeok has his motivations for toadying to Joowon's family and his obvious toadying makes them look down on him. The characters in this drama aren't pure black and white. They are morally grey characters who do a range of things whether it be righteous or questionable.
[HOW CAN ANYONE CONSIDER THAT A THRILLER?? A MASTERPIECE??]
- Because it is a masterpiece to the people who said it is a masterpiece, whether you agree or not. Not the fault of the majority that you disagree, nothing we can do about it. I mean, that's your problem, man.
[Seeing the twist writer ajjuma is dishing out, I wouldn't be surprised if the hairdo-gambling club is working with the mafia, and is actually behind the killings!!!]
- Well I wish you all the best on your theory!
Sincerely, a person who believes Beyond Evil is a masterpiece so far based on Eps 1-12. My opinion may or may not change depending on how the writer concludes the story. But so far, I'm loving it.