There will be a live presscon in 2 hours (2021.03.19 @ 2PM KST) with Director Shim Na Yeon and the cast (Shin Ha Kyun, Yeo Jin Goo, Choi Dae Hoon, Choi Sung Eun, Lee Kyu Hoe)
I love how Yeo Jin Goo gets to play a character as complex and multi-dimensional as Han Joo Won. HJW is a character…
I absolutely agree!
I'd even seen a comment confused why YJG took this project and that the only reason he only did it because he gets to act with Shin Ha Kyun. I'm sure being able to work with SHK is a really nice factor, but how are people missing that HJW is such a complex character that any actor who is up for a challenging role would take this up in a heartbeat. Just because the character isn't likable on the onset doesn't mean it's badly written.
I thought it might be Jin Mook a few episodes ago but I don’t remember the reason, like before he started acting…
I didn't suspect him but in Ep 2, during the team dinner, he kept insisting on grilling the meat by himself. Then later on we find out that it's because he got his finger wounded. He wanted to hide that wound by grilling the meat because he will have to wear gloves the whole time.
I think that while HJW's past may play a part with him desperately wanting to solve the serial murder case, he…
I love how Yeo Jin Goo gets to play a character as complex and multi-dimensional as Han Joo Won. HJW is a character who tries really hard to be apathetic but is actually a very sensitive person. He isn't likable at all especially at a first glance, but HJW is also very morally grey and intriguing. Yeo Jin Goo manages to show HJW's layered sides through his very delicate and subtle expressions. He doesn't have much opportunity to show a wide range of emotions but goddamn is he so magnificent in nailing those very low-key and yet very detailed expressions. His eyes tell so much story.
Like for instance, there were two different scenes where he had to say the line, "Can't I suspect them?"
It's such a straightforward line but the nuance that YJG puts into those two scenes are so distinct. The slight disdain when he said it to Jihoon and the gentle manner he said it to Jaeyi. I don't think there's any other young actor out there who can pull this character off as much as YJG is doing so. His character isn't very expressive at all so it's very easy to miss for a lot of people who do not pay attention, but he's doing such a fantastic job for such a character.
HJW has so many facets as a character. He's rude, arrogant and reckless but he is also smart, quick, sensitive, and open to changing his opinions. It's fascinating watching his character grow and learn with every passing episode.♥
I think that while HJW's past may play a part with him desperately wanting to solve the serial murder case, he also just sincerely wants to solve what happened to those murdered illegal aliens. He mentions it in Ep 8. His division didn't care about giving justice to those murdered illegal aliens and they accused him of just wanting to get a promotion. His division didn't want to listen to him so he ended up recklessly doing a sting operation by himself to get to the bottom of it.
One thing about HJW is that although he likes to hide what he feels, he also isn't the type to lie. So this whole thing he's doing is not so he can get recognized, but that he's really passionate about helping out those murdered victims. He made a huge mistake sacrificing an innocent life by doing a solo sting operation and he's agonized by his guilt. He goes from wanting to solve the case to being desperate to solve it because somebody died because of him.
It's sad how he went to try and claim Lee Geumhwa's body even though he knew the rules, because no one else would claim her. He still wanted to give her a proper funeral service and that shows how badly he feels guilty about what he did. In the next episode, he will also confess about what he did. I'm enjoying seeing his character grow little by little and it's about time we get some HJW backstory!
Yes he absolutely is! He doesn't get pushed around even when acting opposite a senior actor like SHK who is doing a spectacular job himself. YJG is doing fantastic as an actor who has to tell so much story from using very subtle and minimal expressions! I'm absolutely loving his performance here.
ikr? Anyone would get suspicious of DS & whole police station tbh. From our point of view, yes we "understand"…
As viewers, we have been given a deep dive into Dongshik's past as well as the pain that his character has endured over the years. Not to mention Dongshik has an extremely affable and likable personality and that charming spunk that any viewer would immediately fall for in a character. So it's a given that the viewers will become highly invested in his story. We are also shown how great the relationship the Manyang people have.
Then here comes Han Joowon, an arrogant character, an outsider who finds this very likable man suspicious. He acts out against a character the viewers are deeply rooting for. It's very easy to dislike him.
But if we will actually take a look at things from his POV, his actions make a whole lot of sense. LDS is really acting suspicious + this whole town is covering up for each other. All their actions will make anyone wary and frankly if HJW didn't suspect them, that's what's gonna make his character a complete idiot. HJW doesn't know shit about their backstory, he's acting on things based on the logical information he has found. And he has done a great job putting pieces of the puzzle together. That's him being a complete outsider and people deliberately misleading him at every step of the way.
He is a character shrouded in complete mystery so the viewers don't care about his POV but I do find it unfair that they would go as far as call him useless and stupid just because he doesn't have the same amount of insight that we have cos the drama has literally showed Manyang people's backstory to us.
Question for episode 8Why did Jin-mook give up all the bodies at the end that lady wasnt alive?
He didn't give up all the bodies.
What happened in Ep 7 was he heard Jihwa saying that they will search every place to find Minjung. This made Jinmook panic so he decided to focus on using Jaeyi. He knew Jaeyi was desperately trying to find her mom. He taunted Jaeyi and told her his mom's body is at the stream (it isn't) so that everyone else will go to Jaeyi instead.
He used that time to try and move Minjung's body so that even if he got caught, they wouldn't have Minjung's body as evidence against him. Dongshik eventually realized what he was trying to do so they went to arrest Jinmook at his house while they sent other people to rescue Jaeyi.
Over the top and over combined. To make it more interesting, they make every character at some point looking guilty…
I disagree about Yeo Jin Goo's character suffering bad writing. If anything, I actually find his character to be very complex and layered. If this drama ends with the writer not showing Han Joowon's backstory telling us why he is the way he is, then I'd probably agree with you by then. But for now, I'm enjoying how complicated his character is.
If he is likable at the onset just like Dongshik, it will make this drama and character rather bland IMO. Han Joowon is privileged, entitled, reckless and rude, but he also has a side to him that is really passionate about what he does. He truly wanted to solve the case for the illegal immigrants but he ended up doing a sting operation by himself because nobody in his division gave a damn. He is smart that he saw the connection of that case to the Manyang serial murders. He also found out that it's Dongshik who stole the case files and moved the fingers. This is a guy who had to deal with people stealing case files and deleting CCTV footages and an entire community covering up for one another cos we're a family!!! He's desperate to find who the killer is and Dongshik truly is his biggest lead and is the most suspicious of them all. He is very aloof and rude on the outside, but you also see facets of him trying to live by the guilt of sacrificing an innocent life to find the killer. He wanted to claim Lee Geumhwa's body so he could give her a proper funeral, but he couldn't. He acts cold towards everyone, but he's in truth a very emotional and sensitive person.
His character is also open to changing his opinion if the evidences support it. He went to Manyang sure that Dongshik was the man behind the killings, but he eventually realized Dongshik didn't do the murders but that he knew who the killer is. That's just in less than two weeks since he went to Manyang. In the very short span of time that he has spent on Manyang, he realized he was wrong about Dongshik and is even willing to help him find his sister's body. You can tell from his reactions that he truly wants to help him more than he wants to arrest him at this point.
He's morally grey and imperfect and that gives him so much room for character growth that we are actually now seeing bit by bit. I find him very interesting and I can hardly wait to find out more about his character shrouded in mystery.
I'm so glad Yeo Jingoo took this role. He's knocking it out of the park with a character trying to hide his emotions and yet we see flashes of what he truly feels all from the subtle expressions he often makes.
ikr? Anyone would get suspicious of DS & whole police station tbh. From our point of view, yes we "understand"…
Exactly! Dongshik uses Joowon to get the case out in the open but still doesn't trust him with the criminal's name and his goal until the very last second when Jaeyi's in danger, but somehow... Joowon having trust issues with Dongshik given all the evidences and red flags against Dongshik is him being useless? I get Joowon being called annoying because of his rude and reckless personality... but people calling him useless never made sense to me. It's Joowon who made the connection on the illegal immigrants serial murder case to the Manyang murder case. Heck, they would never have found Minjung's body had Joowon never stopped Dongshik and ask him why is Jaeyi in danger.
I'm surprised people see HJW as someone getting in the way and annoying within the context of the show.LDS has…
People are acting like Han Joowon is so problematic for not having seen every single ep of LDS's backstory like we have, and that it's very annoying and useless of him to make conclusions based on the information that is available to him at the time. Who cares about people stealing case files and deleting CCTV footages?
Personally, I actually like that his character makes rather realistic conclusions rather than magically realizing what entirely happened out of nowhere.
This is more of a show don't tell kind of drama. Not every answer will be spelled out to you. The tone is quite gritty and dark with a touch of little humor here and there. Chemistry between the leads is on fire. It also kinda feels like reading a mystery novel. You can make up your theories, you can also just let the story unfold before you.
Yes why is it rated so low? Tbh I've noticed that most of the new dramas already have ~8 ratings.
For real! I'm honestly surprised at some people complaining plot hole this plot hole that when actually, this series is very detailed in giving out clues. Like I'd seen comments even complain why the investigations are only being done now... when they clearly showed it at beginning of ep3. I managed to read the timeline of events of Eps 1-6, and the writer seriously had her whole plot well panned out.
Also the police sucking at their investigation process. Isn't that the point? That this village is so obsessed about their relationships with one another that they couldn't make a rational investigation without setting aside their long time friendship. That's the point of Han Joowon's character who is basically an outsider and is calling them out on it. And yet when HJW does it, people only see him as being arrogant and obsessed. And that's amazing to me because of how well the writer and director are executing how complicated the relationship these Manyang people have. We end up rooting for them, but at the same time we can also see they are pretty well fucked up in their system.
What this drama missing is a beautiful female lead. Yeo Jin Goo is the only attractive cast in this drama
I highly disagree that Yeo Jin Goo is the only attractive person in this drama. And please, all actors cast in this drama are doing a genuinely wonderful job at portraying their roles which is the MOST important thing. This isn't a drama about looking pretty but portraying realistic emotions around a devastating serial murder case.
The other dramas can miss me with a cast more focused on looking pretty on cam instead of getting themselves into their roles and having the same type of acting in every drama they're in. The casting team did a rather outstanding job hiring people who are actually good in acting and bringing their respective multi-dimensional characters to life.
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I'd even seen a comment confused why YJG took this project and that the only reason he only did it because he gets to act with Shin Ha Kyun. I'm sure being able to work with SHK is a really nice factor, but how are people missing that HJW is such a complex character that any actor who is up for a challenging role would take this up in a heartbeat. Just because the character isn't likable on the onset doesn't mean it's badly written.
Like for instance, there were two different scenes where he had to say the line, "Can't I suspect them?"
https://twitter.com/finallyyouq/status/1370440217459527683?s=19
It's such a straightforward line but the nuance that YJG puts into those two scenes are so distinct. The slight disdain when he said it to Jihoon and the gentle manner he said it to Jaeyi. I don't think there's any other young actor out there who can pull this character off as much as YJG is doing so. His character isn't very expressive at all so it's very easy to miss for a lot of people who do not pay attention, but he's doing such a fantastic job for such a character.
HJW has so many facets as a character. He's rude, arrogant and reckless but he is also smart, quick, sensitive, and open to changing his opinions. It's fascinating watching his character grow and learn with every passing episode.♥
One thing about HJW is that although he likes to hide what he feels, he also isn't the type to lie. So this whole thing he's doing is not so he can get recognized, but that he's really passionate about helping out those murdered victims. He made a huge mistake sacrificing an innocent life by doing a solo sting operation and he's agonized by his guilt. He goes from wanting to solve the case to being desperate to solve it because somebody died because of him.
It's sad how he went to try and claim Lee Geumhwa's body even though he knew the rules, because no one else would claim her. He still wanted to give her a proper funeral service and that shows how badly he feels guilty about what he did. In the next episode, he will also confess about what he did. I'm enjoying seeing his character grow little by little and it's about time we get some HJW backstory!
Then here comes Han Joowon, an arrogant character, an outsider who finds this very likable man suspicious. He acts out against a character the viewers are deeply rooting for. It's very easy to dislike him.
But if we will actually take a look at things from his POV, his actions make a whole lot of sense. LDS is really acting suspicious + this whole town is covering up for each other. All their actions will make anyone wary and frankly if HJW didn't suspect them, that's what's gonna make his character a complete idiot. HJW doesn't know shit about their backstory, he's acting on things based on the logical information he has found. And he has done a great job putting pieces of the puzzle together. That's him being a complete outsider and people deliberately misleading him at every step of the way.
He is a character shrouded in complete mystery so the viewers don't care about his POV but I do find it unfair that they would go as far as call him useless and stupid just because he doesn't have the same amount of insight that we have cos the drama has literally showed Manyang people's backstory to us.
What happened in Ep 7 was he heard Jihwa saying that they will search every place to find Minjung. This made Jinmook panic so he decided to focus on using Jaeyi. He knew Jaeyi was desperately trying to find her mom. He taunted Jaeyi and told her his mom's body is at the stream (it isn't) so that everyone else will go to Jaeyi instead.
He used that time to try and move Minjung's body so that even if he got caught, they wouldn't have Minjung's body as evidence against him. Dongshik eventually realized what he was trying to do so they went to arrest Jinmook at his house while they sent other people to rescue Jaeyi.
If he is likable at the onset just like Dongshik, it will make this drama and character rather bland IMO. Han Joowon is privileged, entitled, reckless and rude, but he also has a side to him that is really passionate about what he does. He truly wanted to solve the case for the illegal immigrants but he ended up doing a sting operation by himself because nobody in his division gave a damn. He is smart that he saw the connection of that case to the Manyang serial murders. He also found out that it's Dongshik who stole the case files and moved the fingers. This is a guy who had to deal with people stealing case files and deleting CCTV footages and an entire community covering up for one another cos we're a family!!! He's desperate to find who the killer is and Dongshik truly is his biggest lead and is the most suspicious of them all. He is very aloof and rude on the outside, but you also see facets of him trying to live by the guilt of sacrificing an innocent life to find the killer. He wanted to claim Lee Geumhwa's body so he could give her a proper funeral, but he couldn't. He acts cold towards everyone, but he's in truth a very emotional and sensitive person.
His character is also open to changing his opinion if the evidences support it. He went to Manyang sure that Dongshik was the man behind the killings, but he eventually realized Dongshik didn't do the murders but that he knew who the killer is. That's just in less than two weeks since he went to Manyang. In the very short span of time that he has spent on Manyang, he realized he was wrong about Dongshik and is even willing to help him find his sister's body. You can tell from his reactions that he truly wants to help him more than he wants to arrest him at this point.
He's morally grey and imperfect and that gives him so much room for character growth that we are actually now seeing bit by bit. I find him very interesting and I can hardly wait to find out more about his character shrouded in mystery.
I'm so glad Yeo Jingoo took this role. He's knocking it out of the park with a character trying to hide his emotions and yet we see flashes of what he truly feels all from the subtle expressions he often makes.
Personally, I actually like that his character makes rather realistic conclusions rather than magically realizing what entirely happened out of nowhere.
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This is more of a show don't tell kind of drama. Not every answer will be spelled out to you. The tone is quite gritty and dark with a touch of little humor here and there. Chemistry between the leads is on fire. It also kinda feels like reading a mystery novel. You can make up your theories, you can also just let the story unfold before you.
Also the police sucking at their investigation process. Isn't that the point? That this village is so obsessed about their relationships with one another that they couldn't make a rational investigation without setting aside their long time friendship. That's the point of Han Joowon's character who is basically an outsider and is calling them out on it. And yet when HJW does it, people only see him as being arrogant and obsessed. And that's amazing to me because of how well the writer and director are executing how complicated the relationship these Manyang people have. We end up rooting for them, but at the same time we can also see they are pretty well fucked up in their system.
The other dramas can miss me with a cast more focused on looking pretty on cam instead of getting themselves into their roles and having the same type of acting in every drama they're in. The casting team did a rather outstanding job hiring people who are actually good in acting and bringing their respective multi-dimensional characters to life.