No, he doesn't 'deserve' better. Nobody 'deserves' anything in love. Love is not a gold medal for best behavior.…
Still having a disability, terrible as it is, doesn't give you a free pass to torture other people when they are not responsible for what happened to you.
No, he doesn't 'deserve' better. Nobody 'deserves' anything in love. Love is not a gold medal for best behavior.…
Still having a disability, terrible as it is, doesn't give you a free pass to torture other people when they are not responsible for what happened to you.
are you sure you actually want to watch it? You just asked for the whole story line 🤣
Exactly. If it has too many of these tropes, it's a turn-off. We've seen them too much. After all, it's a commitment to sacrifice 20 hours of your life.
are you sure you actually want to watch it? You just asked for the whole story line 🤣
This is a list of mostly annoying things (breakup, time skip, 2nd lead syndrome, annoying ex. They are staples, present in most dramas so talking about their existence does not really give the story away. And of course whether it ends well. I would have asked the same things
Yeah theyre really a family but supid greedy granpa will make themselves traitor.Like honestly what more could…
Yes but he knows that kings often turn against their half-brothers to eliminate competition. Just as the bad dethroned king killed his younger half-brother and virtually imprisoned the Queen Dowager. He's afraid that history might repeat itself. And frankly, I cannot say that what he says is absurd or impossible to happen.
Thank you so much! You probably should pin it in the Discussion section cos it clarify some confusions. There…
Ah, so it's a different page. Most of us who comment here don't visit other pages - I may be wrong here, but I, for one, never do. And as you can see, on that page there are no topics yet. Nobody has even bothered to make one. But if it can help, why not?
How is the relation between the brothers? Is there any bromance?
It is true that family relationships are mentioned only in passing in this drama, and it takes some effort. For instance, this is not their grandma, it's their ... I don't know, step-grandma? Not even. Because she's not married to any of their grandfathers. She was the young wife of the previous king's old father, thus the step-mother of the previous king. But the previous king (whom she had dethroned) was only a distant relation of the current king.
Yes, a part of my comment was missing, for my reason, I may have deleted the words by mistake while typing and editing it. Now I have corrected it. Thanks for pointing it out!
I have questions alluding to the Queen Dowager and her relationship to Lee Gon. Is she his mother ? The flashbacks…
I have just written a long post on the family tree, from what we've been told. She was the step-mother of the previous king (very young bride of his father, as we saw in episode 8), but she held a grudge against him because he killed her young son (his half-brother), and also banished her for 10 years. So she planned his death and had him dethroned, and put the present king in his place. The present king has no direct blood relation to her and of course neither do the king's two sons.
For everyone confused about the family relationship. The Queen Dowager is NOT related to the current king, the two princes' father, so she is not their grandmother, let alone mother. Yi Geon's mother is dead, we saw the king visiting her grave when he was about to become king and move to the palace; Grand Prince Do Seong's mother is the kind young queen, who raised both boys as her own. The Queen Dowager is the step-mother of the previous king, the one who was dethroned. We were told that the dethroned king killed her other son, his young brother, Prince Gwang Chang who was still a boy. We saw the boy being dragged from his mother's arms in flashback, in episode 5. Why I'm saying she was a step-mother of the dethroned king and not his mother? After all, we heard the present king saying, in episode 1: "The deposed king you served banished his mother and murdered his younger brother. He was a tyrant and a foolish king, who sucked the lives out of his people," But I think that he uses "mother" loosely, and in fact the (now)Queen Dowager was his step-mother, not his blood mother. What am I based on? See this conversation in episode 2, where Left State Councillor (the one with the different eyebrows) lectures his daughter the queen and grandson, Grand Prince Do Seong: "Why do you think the queen dowager's son, Grand Prince Gwang Chang, died? The deposed king also was opposed to it. However, the southerners ultimately made him into a traitor and killed him. Would he have done so if he were his blood sibling? Just like the deposed king and Prince Gwang Chang, the crown prince and our prince Do Seong... are not of the same blood." So if they were not of the same blood, it means that the previous king was not her son. She was the queen, so she sort of "served" as his mother, but was not related to him. Just as, now, she is not the mother of the present king. By the way, our Crown Prince, in episode 4, suggests that the young prince who was killed was not the king's son, but her lover's son. "As it turns out, Prince Gwang Chang is mixed with the dirty blood of the man you had an affair with" [UPDATE: In episode 8 we saw that she was the girl forced to be a consort (not queen yet) of a much older king. Thus the king would have already have other sons, one of which probably was the crown prince and became the king who killed her young son, his half-brother, the grand prince.] Thus she had a grudge against her cruel step-son the king, who banished her for 10 years in a secluded pavillion. She planned his death by poison, and had him dethroned, and put the current king in his place. That's why she tells him "I was the one to take down one king and put you on the throne, so I can do this again, take your throne away". From episode 2: "The deposed king. Because of that despicable man who deserves to be chewed up, do you know what I did while I was confined to the back garden palace for those ten years? I made sure everyone in the palace became my people. I kicked out whoever did not follow my order by coming up with whatever excuses and put one of my own people in that position. With the sole aim to take revenge on the deposed king. And after that, do you know what I did? For a year, through the primary royal chef, I fed the dethroned king... a little bit of opium. And his original madness became even worse. I thought of using poison in case opium did not work on him, but that wasn't necessary after all." The current king who was happily married for the second time and used to live outside the palace. It is not specified, but he might be a distant relative of the royal family; a cousin or something like that. Be it as it may, with no blood relationship with the current queen dowager.
Your comment is funny. I am also lost in the storyline. If the FL marry the CP, she or CP will die. However, if…
The original curse was somehow lifted when they spent a night in the same bed. But because of the mistake, a new curse was made, and now if she marries that particular person, not only her husband is at risk but her own life as well - either he or she will die. But if she marries the younger prince, there will be no curse.
it's just hype, not long ago marry my husband had a lot of articles too
I also saw him as second lead in ... what was the title of this drama where the two characters were survivors from a whole building that crashed? A very good drama. UPDATE: Just Between Lovers. Now renamed Rain or Shine. With Lee Jun Ho and Won Jin Ah.
After all, it's a commitment to sacrifice 20 hours of your life.
And of course whether it ends well.
I would have asked the same things
She was the step-mother of the previous king (very young bride of his father, as we saw in episode 8), but she held a grudge against him because he killed her young son (his half-brother), and also banished her for 10 years. So she planned his death and had him dethroned, and put the present king in his place. The present king has no direct blood relation to her and of course neither do the king's two sons.
The Queen Dowager is NOT related to the current king, the two princes' father, so she is not their grandmother, let alone mother.
Yi Geon's mother is dead, we saw the king visiting her grave when he was about to become king and move to the palace;
Grand Prince Do Seong's mother is the kind young queen, who raised both boys as her own.
The Queen Dowager is the step-mother of the previous king, the one who was dethroned. We were told that the dethroned king killed her other son, his young brother, Prince Gwang Chang who was still a boy. We saw the boy being dragged from his mother's arms in flashback, in episode 5.
Why I'm saying she was a step-mother of the dethroned king and not his mother?
After all, we heard the present king saying, in episode 1:
"The deposed king you served banished his mother and murdered his younger brother. He was a tyrant and a foolish king, who sucked the lives out of his people,"
But I think that he uses "mother" loosely, and in fact the (now)Queen Dowager was his step-mother, not his blood mother. What am I based on?
See this conversation in episode 2, where Left State Councillor (the one with the different eyebrows) lectures his daughter the queen and grandson, Grand Prince Do Seong:
"Why do you think the queen dowager's son, Grand Prince Gwang Chang, died? The deposed king also was opposed to it. However, the southerners ultimately made him into a traitor and killed him. Would he have done so if he were his blood sibling? Just like the deposed king and Prince Gwang Chang, the crown prince and our prince Do Seong... are not of the same blood."
So if they were not of the same blood, it means that the previous king was not her son. She was the queen, so she sort of "served" as his mother, but was not related to him. Just as, now, she is not the mother of the present king.
By the way, our Crown Prince, in episode 4, suggests that the young prince who was killed was not the king's son, but her lover's son.
"As it turns out, Prince Gwang Chang is mixed with the dirty blood of the man you had an affair with"
[UPDATE: In episode 8 we saw that she was the girl forced to be a consort (not queen yet) of a much older king. Thus the king would have already have other sons, one of which probably was the crown prince and became the king who killed her young son, his half-brother, the grand prince.]
Thus she had a grudge against her cruel step-son the king, who banished her for 10 years in a secluded pavillion. She planned his death by poison, and had him dethroned, and put the current king in his place. That's why she tells him "I was the one to take down one king and put you on the throne, so I can do this again, take your throne away".
From episode 2:
"The deposed king. Because of that despicable man who deserves to be chewed up, do you know what I did while I was confined to the back garden palace for those ten years? I made sure everyone in the palace became my people. I kicked out whoever did not follow my order by coming up with whatever excuses and put one of my own people in that position.
With the sole aim to take revenge on the deposed king. And after that, do you know what I did? For a year, through the primary royal chef, I fed the dethroned king... a little bit of opium. And his original madness became even worse. I thought of using poison in case opium did not work on him, but that wasn't necessary after all."
The current king who was happily married for the second time and used to live outside the palace. It is not specified, but he might be a distant relative of the royal family; a cousin or something like that. Be it as it may, with no blood relationship with the current queen dowager.
UPDATE: Just Between Lovers. Now renamed Rain or Shine. With Lee Jun Ho and Won Jin Ah.