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You make a great point about how something is promoted.

The study isn't that old, but it was referring specifically to Chiang Mai province which I can't imagine is representative of the country as a whole.

I guess we have to think about what our definition of "middle" is. I would say Make It Right or Bad Buddy, which were fairly successful. I guess to me, "middle" would be where sex is part of a relationship, but not the focus of the series - so in Bad Buddy that would be the case, whereas KinnPorsche was essentially soft-core porn.

I was looking at figures for sexual activity for Thai men - in the north the average age to become active is eighteen, and of active men, 90% have been with a prostitute, and fourteen % with another man, both of which are much higher than in the West, but not uncommon for a country where women are encourage to save themselves for marriage.

But in Bangkok it's much younger, between fifteen & sixteen, and girls are much more likely to be active - less than boys but not by much.

This series interrupted a BDSM scenario for a skin cream placement - that has to be a new high for the genre.

I'm glad to have been of service!

Yes, exactly.

But even taking it in the context of BL, or even a Disney movie for children, there are basic concepts of storytelling, and one is that you don't have a relationship reach it's peak a third of the way through a story and then leave them in a corner to deflate like a balloon missed in the cleanup after a party.

You are quite an advocate for Newyear and Both.

I'm not talking about individual cases, I'm talking about what the law is. The age of consent is fifteen, but it's not unfettered, it's conditional. For people beween the ages of fifteen and eighteen in the case of both people being in that range, it's effectively unconditional. At the age of eighteen there are no limitations at all, and my point is that I don't understand how anyone can have any objection to two consenting adults being togeher no matter what the age difference is - yet a lot of the audience finds it revolting, even when the difference is only a few years.

Agreed, but you'd have to be nuts if you're an adult to have sex with someone under eighteen because even though not strictly illegal, the minor - or his/her parents - can retroactively withdraw consent, which is bad. In the context of a long-term loving relationship, your risks are a lot different - nobody is going to arrest someone in a committed relationship. But even then I'd keep it private until he's eighteen if his parents are not very accepting.

I don't mean that it's homophobia on the part of the individuals involved, I mean institutional homophobia. They aren't even cuddling - there is really nothing to their interaction that goes beyond being friends - and if a relationship doesn't move forward, it loses steam and sinks. From the heights of their dance scene, we've really gotten no negative progress.

This happened in You'r My Sky - the secondary couple was absolutely on fire, but the production was afraid to pull the trigger and it deflated like a sad balloon.

I was complaining that this week's My School President was bad. "Bad" is apparenly relative. On a scale where MSP was "bad", this would have to be "apocalyptic".

Maybe she'll catch Gun'd mom's fatal illness ad die before she can get in the way. That was sarcasm, but I'm really over the lazy sick mother plot trope.

I was too tired last night, but I will now - is it not good?

Even with the BS rule, they could use it to add a forbidden element to what they're doing - like getting together in secret. Here they're keeping it secret by doing absolutely nothing, not even kissing when in private. When I was in primary school we used to do innocently naughty things with each other that is a normal part of sexual exploration and which would seem XXX-rated compared to this series. And these are teen boys. I understand that the series can't give us what would realistically happen (i.e. Gun & Tin f@$%ing like rabbits every chance they could get), but there's a point where it's so inauthentic that it takes you out of the story and it feels deeply homophobic - and that's frustrating and upsetting.

Bad Buddy is an excellent example. The plot ended in Ep 6 and the second half was plot-less fanservice. On the one hand it's nice to see a couple interacting as a couple before the last 5 minutes like usual in BL, if that's all they're doing then it's dull. Here they're a couple that aren't even doing that - on top of that, the main couple's only contribution to the episode was to try to prevent the secondary couple from happening.

I don't remember him but I'll pay attention next time.

I shouldn't say the whole series is a 7 - this episode was, though. I'm going to edit what I wrote. If it gets moving again quickly it can come back for me, but another ep like this may kill the buzz - there's not enough time left to dig out of the hole.

I was more sexually active than that when I was 6.

Yes, for sure. He's better than anyone in the music club.

I actually disliked this ep so much that I've lost faith in the series. But I'm glad you also called out Gemini's singing, because it was the best in the series. Satang isn't bad or anything, but his lower notes were heavily autotuned, whereas Gemini wasn't altered at all and he was smoothly moving in and out of falsetto which is a real skill - he's a natural and I was surprised.

You are not the only one. I watched him climbing into the van about 50 times to see those insane calves flex. His legs are beyond.

Have there been any? I don't even know who Por is.