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I feel like it's going 18+, unless maybe In turns Wang down. I was wondering if In is Wang's biological father.

I'm a little at a loss. I'm trying to understand why Rain & Phayoo are so much more engaging than Sun & Kim - both stories have the same director and writer, so what gives? Perhaps it's because Noh is a sexy beast and Ohm showed up for work. (I'm trying to stay positive.) You would think simultaneously playing a character and his inner angel & devil would make for funny scene, but it came off as three mannequins off the assemby line wearing different outfits. By which I mean Ohm can play a mannequin better than anyone else, by far. (Still staying positive.)

Maybe what's partly to blame is that you don't have to be a music major to be distracted by how totally ridiculous everything related to the orchestra is. From the synthesized cello that sounds like it's off some kid's Casio keyboard, to the conductor counting one tempo and gesturing another while the orchestra plays in a third. The music teacher (I'll take one of those to go, please) has helpful, teacherly words: "It should be getting better. Why is it getting worse?" Thanks, Toscanini. And the next time Fluke rests his guitar on damp grass I'll slap him. Instruments have cases for a reason. Nobody is going to drag their naked cello to a muddy lake bank in a grove. That thing likely costs $100,000.

And I still can't get over having a string ensemble play at a rugby game. Not only that, but playing cheap imitation Bach. Why not send a marching band to a funeral to play some Souza?

And what sadist did that to Fluke's hair? You have to work really hard to make him not cute.

What exactly does the author think fencing is? Guys with real swords slashing at each other? The only way you can hurt someone with one of those foils is if you wrap it around his neck and strangle him. Why was everyone acting like a mild fencing match was a murder attempt?

So is that why Phayoo and Rain work so well? Because it's a straightforward story without disastrously written distractions? Or is it just that Noh & Peterpan are 1) drop-dead gorgeous, 2) excellent actors and 3) have great chemistry? Noh has chemistry with everyone, so I'm inclined to think there's something there. I found myself shipping him with Sun in the orchestra scene. I still want him with Phayoo, but there's enough Rain to share. If I were Sun, I'd be more than happy to be the meat in a Phayoo-Rain sandwich.

I'm with you. I like the Phayoo/Rain story, but as far as the main couple goes, just 30 seconds of Sun & Rain this ep made me ship them a lot harder than I can for Sun & Kim.

That's better than coming to a discussion forum to talk about how much you dislike people talking about things they dislike, which is just downright weird. A lot of us here are friends and like discussing with each other. You should try it. There's nothing wrong with disliking some things about a series and enjoying others. Almost everyone likes Phayoo and Rain and watch the series for that, but it's hard not to notice how terrible the Kim & Sun story is.

I felt he was overshadowed by First, but that could happen to anyone. Khaotung will be fine, I'm sure. I just think his swagger is a bit cringey - everything else he does is good.

That was unbelievable, like I can't believe I watched something like this produced in Thailand. Everything about that was first rate except for a few minor sound issues.

The acting, the symbolism, the sharp dialog and intelligent writing in general, it left me yearning for more. Also, sometimes age difference can have a creepy quality to it, but this didn't at all - especially with Wang being so aggressive while In was just minding his own business in the middle of nowhere. And their connection is so electric. Phallic symbolism everywhere.

I know nothing about this show or the story other than what we've seen, but I think this may get very heavy. Some of the things Wang's mother said when she was alone with In plus the most-likely-not-a-coincidence between how long it's been since she's seen In and how old Wang is suggests that we may get into some themes we don't see very often in BL, although this really isn't a BL.

By the way, the next person who refers to In as "middle-aged" gets stabbed in the neck.

Yes - I don't remember him being like that in the original series. On the other hand, I might quietly murder someone if it meant I could get my hands on Mark.

It says 14+, but it seems likely to be a bit much for 14-year olds. Not so far, but we'll see.

I'd say18-20 years. If In and Sasimiwol haven't spoken in 20 years which is probably not coincidentally how old Wang is, then they were likely close in age because when you're young you don't have much opportunity to make friends with people - you can, e.g. I had grad student friends in my major when I was an undergrad, but either way I'd put In at late 30s to 40.

You've posted so many comments like this that I take it you have a problem with age difference. It's not important if both are adults and know what they're doing.

Which one? The age difference, or who Wang's father is?

Remember that Sasimiwol said that Wang saw In's photo and wanted to meet him? I don't think Wang wanted to drive and ended up there by coincidence or chance. I don't think anything could have happened between Wang and In - I think Wang was fascinated with In and wanted to meet him.

GagaOOLala.

Tee and Nine should ditch Dao and get together with each other. They would make a hot couple.

That's a good point. Every prom or dance I went to was with someone I wasn't interested in romancing. Although I was fairly up-front that we were going as friends, some of them intrpreted it as me being interested.

But I did think I was romantically interested in my girlfriend my senior year. Because I liked her as a person and enjoyed her company, and her best friend was dating my love interest (and it was mutual though horribly repressed on both our parts), we were all always together and so I was happy and had no conception that I was using her or doing anything other than being her boyfriend in good faith.

I think maybe some of the lack of sympathy many female BL fans have for this type of situation is that while they can understand the anti-gay discrimination very well, being confused about their sexuality is alien for most (obviously not all), so they understandably perceive it like they would if a straight boy were after them under false pretenses, which has probably happened to many or most of them.

Q may very well honestly view the prospect of being the boyfriend of a beautiful, intelligent, and popular girl with a great personality as something he truly desires, and not really understand why he's so drawn to X.

By In? F#$% In, let me at it.

I can't really remember back that far. But I'm thinking if I had a boyfriend as useless and whiny as Dao I'd cheat on him too.

Vee's dad had the best take-down of all time in this - I thought he was going to punch him, but that was like judo, using his opponent's weight against him. Humble, classy, and brutal.

Well, wait until the last time he takes his shirt off. But you might want to take some metroprolol first.

Hey, he needed to get a minimum number of members or the club would be shut down. If a friend had to get his ass kicked, so be it. But seriously, Vee kept accepting all the challenges - that's on him.