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I'm surprised at how much I liked it. I was just here for my Tee obsession, and I was getting annoyed that it was all about chasing girls, but it headed into BL quickly and I actually really like the Toy-Mook storyline.

I think Q's mom is concerned about something else, like Q's happiness, or I thought it was strongly pointing to her parents being homophobes, judging by what her brother said.

I'm seeing complaints about Q's mother. It's quite clear she has zero problem with being gay - she didn't even get upset when her brother hit on a high school boy (which she should have been upset about). I thought it was clear that she's afraid of her parents' reaction. Notice she said "I'm afraid of what will happen" not "I'm afraid of what he is."

As for not wanting him to go back to X - what mother of a high school kid is going to let him go out late at night on a motorcycle? MY mother would be upset by that and I'm... not a high school student. So everyone can relax, she's not a homophobe.

Regarding Q pursuing Mook without being into her, can we relax? Nobody's getting hurt, and he doesn't realize his feelings yet - he likely believes he's into her. It's hard to explain if you haven't been a repressed gay person, but heteronormative pressures are so strong and ubiquitous that you believe you like her (or him) - it's usually someone that you're really into as a friend, and you convince yourself it's romantic love, and that intense heart-pounding obsession you have for your best friend is just the feeling of close friendship. I used to fantasize about my crushes by imagining him with a girl.

When people are merciless with repressed boys in BL it feels like blaming the victim, and it doesn't feel good to see it here in what should be a safe place - if you're a fan of watching m/m romance, please don't forget that there's a lot of pain and suffering to endure for LGBTQ+ kids. On top of that, we still have to deal with constant discrimination, which is something every woman understands all too well.

Well I'll be darned. I expected to be watching this just for my beloved Tee, but I actually like it apart from him. (Incidentally, it was cruel to have him start to unbutton his shirt then walk offscreen.)

There are few things in this that set it apart. They did the fall and stare thing, but it wasn't just a thing that happened, like Fiat walking along and tripping over his own feet even though he's a basketball star - it was carefully set up an integrated into the plot, and the whole routine was really funny, with the fantasy sequence, my laughing ahead of time because this was destined to be disastrous, and it not being entirely predictable. (I thought X would save Mook and upstage Q again.)

Anyway, I like the main couple - it's cute how in love X is with Q, and how Q is obviously starting to reciprocate. I also really like Toy and Frank, and Toy is usually the type of character that annoys me, but how obviously his swagger is bluff hiding a sweet and shy boy is adorable.

There is absolutely nothing objectionable in this series whatsoever, except the way people are always hitting each other in the head, which is 100% universal in BL, so there's no point bringing it up. Although I just did, but not really.

In a drama, yes, you're right. In a comedy, where the people doing it are portrayed as hopeless clowns, no. Plus, you seem insensitive to how difficult it is for a gay high school boy to come to terms with his sexuality. It's possible - actually almost universal - to convince yourself you like girls, and even one in particular. I had more than one girlfriend - I didn't have the slightest intention of deceving or hurting them, I was just doing what society demanded as "normal".

Also, starting with "I'm not on to take this seriously, BUT..." is the surest way to indicate you're taking it seriously.

I think your point is valid that it's bad to play with people's feelings, but there has to be intent - Q is self-absorbed for not really having considered it, but he's not malicious or trying to use her (in the sexual sense). I'll be willing to bet he'll learn his lesson.

I have to say that someetimes UN is so bad that it's good - the fake tiger scene is hard to top in sheer cheesiness. Or how we got from BDSM to behaving like a kiss on the cheek is scandalous. BL writers just can't help themselves.

He's really annoying the German foreign service. It's apparently illegal to rule a different country from German soil.

Yes. His upper body is pretty amazing too.

Absolutely not. The story is the same but more fleshed out and Yin's acting is much improved. The other two parts are Bar & Gun who are played by different actors, and Nuea's romance which I don't remember at all. None of it is relevant. Just keep in mind that this series is using a story that's a few years old so some of the more tired tropes are present, but it's written with much more depth and the acting is first-rate.

I do hope their examination of themes doesn't descend into a straight conformity = bad, unrestrained individuality = good. Traditions build community and opportunities for belonging, and uniforms weaken class difference at school - it's not black and white, but rather striking a balance. Likewise, lack of respect for the rule of law leads to corruption and tyranny, although too much rule of law also leads to tyranny. The world is shades of grey.

Just check views on any BL vs any straight drama. Even a bad one like this has over 300K views, and popular ones like KinnPorsche top 1M. They've started throwing BL plotlines and BL actors into straight dramas to build viewership.

It feels a little like someone wrote a series then realized it was so boring that it would put people into a coma, so they added the alternative universe angle and threw in one or two differences per episode like the snow, which makes no sense because, well, the laws of physics aren't different, are they?

But the gimmick is so shallow that it takes me out of the story. They're not bothering in the slightest to try to get home.

And the romance doesn't make a lot of sense, either. They both do & say things that are so OTT, then totally back off. It just doesn't ring true at all. Nobody, even in a world where there's no homophobia at all, kisses someone, then just shrugs it off with "I just felt like kissing you" and gets no reaction.

Jimmy and Sea are cute together and there are moments that I enjoy, but I'm getting whiplash.

And sweet Jesus, the way that orange knit shirt fit Sea...

This is an Oscar-winning masterpiece compared to Checkout and Unforgotten Night. But and Oscar-winner like The English Patient which was so long and repetitive by the end you were shouting "Just DIE already!"

Still hate-watching and hate-posting.

"What would be the difference if we're lovers or not?" Was that a mistranslation of "What if we're in a committed relationship or not?" Otherwise it's a stupid question. The answer is obvious: If you're lovers, you can sniff-kiss each other once a week. If you're not lovers, you can grab each other's wrists when you try to walk away. Unless you're a total stranger, in which case you can make out in public.

Is there some reason why they feel compelled to keep translating "Lodestar Production" into "Lodestar Production"? They've now added translating "Flann O'Brien's Irish Pub" into "Flann O'Brien's Irish Pub". But my question is what does "Impact Lakefront" mean in English?

Wasn't the proper response to Nine's boat extravaganza "Get away from me you controlling psycho! We just started dating 10 seconds ago!"

It's a bit late for the Victorian virgin routine. We saw what you did in the Special Episode. Seriously though, in the special they were two guys. Now they're a predatory creep and a 12-year old girl.

Maybe I'm just projecting, but are there any members of the female audience that would be put off by a gay actor? Certainly not as many as go nuts when they find out an actor has a girlfriend.

Although I really strongly dislike My Only 12%, Earth & Santa are so convincing - in 7 Project, when Santa goes in for a full-body hug it's the best scene in the series, or at least the only one I can remember.

I was thinking 12 episodes would have been fine if they'd left out Kim & Mek. Four couples is too many anyway, so eliminiate the least interesting. Bear and Bomb wouldn't work as a main couple (Bomb is too sweet and uncomplicated. I wouldn't mind watching him shower for 15 min per ep, though) but Park and Lee certainly would.

Me too - when it turned out to be really happening I was surprised, especially with such weak setup.

OK, you've convinced me. I love First's restrained discomfort with the flirting - it's pitch-perfect.

I'm so-so on this. I love how First is playing this, but I'm not finding Khaotung very convincing, but I could give that time - it's often like that in BL because the writers are so black-and-white about evrerything and work maybe too hard to establish roles. But that's better than like in Vice Versa where the characters aren't distinguished at all.

I don't like the heavy-handedness of the message of the story - it shouldn't feel like it's beating you over the head - it's sort of the meta version of telling vs showing. If the authoritarianism is clownish and stereotypical, it's ignoring nuance and not true to life and it lessens the impact. For example, tradition is also about creating a community to belong to and uniforms are to eliminate class difference at school - it's more interesting to explore the balance rather than ORDER... BAD!!! INDIVIDUALITY... GOOD!!!

The production is also not as slick as I would expect - the sound editing is off with it difficult to hear the dialog at spots because the music is too loud, and the cinematography and directing are not too inspired, so it's a good thing there's a strong cast. And enough with the clownish stereotypical effeminate gays - that really needs to be retired. This isn't the 1950s.

It isn't bad, but I was having trouble connecting to this and I didn't have that "I can't wait till next week!" feeling. Not even about Neo.

Rereading your reply, I don't think I was clear. Bad Boy doesn't mean "bad" as in villainous, it just means the swaggering outsider. It takes me out of the story because it's too mannered and exaggerated. He was doing it when he was loading his books in his bad at he end of class. He doesn't in flashbacks, so maybe it's an act, but we'll see.