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I really do like this series, but they really need to get the plot moving. This was ep 7 of 10 and we haven't really moved substantially from Ep 2. And I'm sure the thing that happened at the end was yet another fakeout. Cheap.

I think Nadia is too much of a snob to deserve the Barrista. Class difference is a huge barrier in relationships, but she doesn't know anything about him to judge him. And I wouldn't care if a guy were actually in prison if he looked like that.

I'm realizing from the comments here that the usual studio strategy of pairing two actors permanently really works. Nobody evver seems to like Yoon even though he's a good actor and cute and sexy because he gets a different partner every series. His storyline here is disconnected from the rest of the story and seems unnecessary, but that's common to secondary couples, and wouldn't be much of a problem if the main couple's story wasn't so stagnant.

Uncle Dej's hair in the flashback had me in stitches - that was hysterical.

I like Dr. Boss a lot, but they should have integrated them into the plot in some way if they were going to include them. Or if they wanted a second m/m couple they could have just made Nadia into Nate instead. Dr. Boss with Barista would be so cute with the drastic size difference.

I did like thay Toy actually got hurt with that fall - so often in BLs there's an unrealistic amount of trauma resulting in no injury, like when two guys have an all-out fistfight and the worst damage is a red spot at the corner of their lip that is cured by being dabbed with a q-tip.

It's not like He's Coming to Me - ghosts are a bigger part of the plot and there are some horror elements. But it's extremely well-written and made, and the main pair are incrdibly cute. It's my favorite BL airiing.

This show has a lot going for it. It has a lot of quirky characters, especially So and the little brother, even bit players like the two cashiers, a lot of really attractive guys, like the 2 bandmates, Pond, and especially Saint, and a bit more grit, i.e. not everyone is rich - these guys are actual starving students.

But the direction makes everything take unpleasantly long, like when Pond was trying to get So to leave. So was confused for some reason, although Pond's "go away" gesture is totally clear, as were his reasons for giving it.

And the biggest problem is that it has rthe worst main lead ever to appear in a BL, with the sole exception of Gun Tosakan in En of Love, who I'm fairly confident will never be topped. I like the idea of a depressed ML - but he doesn't have to be a humorless asshole. There's absolutely nothing intersting about him. He could at least be entertainingly caustic. He just sits there all day with a totally blank face being dull and unpleasant.

A lot of people have observed that Saint is likely a toxic villain (a very, very hot, sexy villain). I'm not sure, because he's so obviously evil from the start that he's probably not, but even if he's the anti-Christ AND the reincarnation of Hitler, who clubs harp seal pups in his spare time just for laughs, I woud STILL prefer Mon end up with him.

This episode was better than the previous ones, because it was So-centric. But the energy of the show comes to a screeching halt whenever Mon is in it. Saint is listed as a main character, so that will probably be enough for me to watch this, but if he's just a side character, So can't hold my intrest alone.

If you want to see a guy with low self-esteem to prevail, there's Secret Crush on You. Does Mon have low self-esteem, or is he just a dick?

I would personally love to see a depressed character, but one that isn't an unlikeable jerk. You can be depressed and still be nice to people. I do it all the time.

I read the first season and part of the second last night after our discussion. I agree, the adaptation is excellent. I really enjoy the manwha, but there things that wouldn't have worked in live action. A lot of people complained about the restaurant scene, but if Sangwoo hadn't recognized Jaeyoung it would have been ridiculous. Live action doesn't give you any sense of time passing, and they had a fight literally a minute before, and while glasses vs no glasses works in the manwha, it would be stupid in live action, especially in a more realistic BL like this one. In print, where you're actually reading the characters' thoughts, you can see that Sangwoo just can't remember faces, but that would be too diffcult and time-consuming to pull off in live action.

So in short, the adaptation is really good - but again, it unnecessarily cuts out the rather significant sexual aspect of Sanwoo's attraction to Jaeyoung - and Sangwoo's character is explicitly 25 years old. I don't think it would have taken more than 5-10 seconds to make that work and wouldn't have needed any undressing or anything explicit. But if you remember, Sangwoo would get hard anytime Jaeyoung was in the same room with him.

I didn't mean WYEL was better in terms of intimacy - this was 100 times more so. I meant in overall quality and originality.

Me too.

When I was 6 I actually played around sexually with two sisters on my block, and despite that, turned out to be a perfectly gay man. TBH, it was almost entirely them playing with me, but I wasn't bothered.

I wish Toh would just DIE and make room for more Khaojao time. I'm getting tired of the reliance on Toh just staring like a f@#$ing psycho creep literally for minutes after Nuea asks him anything. He even does it in his own fantasies! I will admit Seng is good at putting in nerdy self-conscious quirks, like how he pulled his shorts legs down when he stood up because so much of his (quite nice) legs were showing.

This is still 10x better than Enchante - I couldn't even get through the latest episode. I think once you accept Secret Crush is a silly comedy, you can sit back and enjoy it. Even the title is funny, because nobody is even remotely secretive about their crushes.

Anyway, I've started to enjoy watching this - I hope it continues toget better, and I really do appreciate that it's trying something different. I like how they don't shy away from what happenes when a boy likes another boy and a massage is involved.

Jao is such a great character and Surprise is so good at playing him. I was so glad to find out why he's always rejecting Sky, and it's not the usual default uke Victorian 12-year old virgin thing. He actually has one of the nicest bodies on the show, but that has nothing to do with one's self-image, so I like this variation on the usual theme.

There is a weakness in the plot in that because Enchante only wrote one thing in the book, it's really hard for me to understand why anyone gives a f@#$ who he is. And since that's the main plot, it makes the show less interesting because we all know who Theo will end up with. They should have spent more time on Enchante - like had 4 or five sweet exchanges. Also, I don't get why 5 guys all really like Theo. It's like they can't see Saifa or something. But all that would have been fine with better casting - even if they'd just switched the two leads.

I think some of the problem with Theo is they use such a strong soft filter on him that we're probably losing a lot of his facial expression - he almost looks like he's animated. I'm guessing that's related to the obsession with BL characters having perfect skin, which I don't care about, and I doubt many people would be put off by a few blemishes.

Wow, a lot of these people must be really fun to date. How can anyone think someone kissing their own fiance is sexual abuse? How on earth is THIS the line that people are objecting to being crossed? Forget the horrible emotional abuse going on in this series or essentially selling a small child to someone, but a tender consensual kiss is off-limits? I get that lines are in different places for different people, but if you really think that's sexual abuse, then don't do it or allow someone else to. But don't cast your judgment on people less Victorian than you, or confine yourself to shows where people sign notarized consent documents before touching pinkies.

If nothing else, people should have some respect for the feelings of people reading the comments that have been raped. You know, like violently assaulted and hospitalized, or need years of psychological treatment for PTSD. I mean jeez.

They explained that this episode (ep 8) in a cut scene. Ben is lying about things and the landlady knows it, so they have a hostile unspoken agreement not to expose each other.

This is awful. It's boring, the plot is irrelevant, since Enchante only wrote one thing and it's 100% obvious Theo will end up with Akk, the acting is terrible and the writing is bad.

I gave up in the first segment with the bread-eating scene, which was so ridiculous I had to stop. If they'd just eaten the bread and touched faces, I might have let it go, even though nobody has ever accidentally done they in human history, and as far as I can tell, it's only happened with two dogs, and it was spaghetti. But then they did it AGAIN 15 seconds later with the sausage. The writing is so unimaginative that the author plagarizes herself within a single scene.

And the soft focus filter is set so high that Theo looks blurry in closeups. Nobody cares if he doesn't have perfect skin. I'd rather if his subtle facial expressions be visible (provided he has any) than to be looking at what's essentially a permanent bad photoshop.

Maybe a 4.

I think cute with good acting and decent writing might be more what they're looking for, not the poorly acted and written mess.

You mean you're sticking around hoping they'll eventually have some?

Yes, it's terrible. The lead character has no charm, the plot is irrelevant, and the writing is bad. I wouldn't waste my time.

Book is bad. Zero appeal.