Have you idk just once thought that maybe Todd is the one who hurt Black? I mean its a little weird that Black…
I've never NOT thought it was Todd. Pure evil. I'll bet he drowns puppies just for kicks. I wouldn't be surprised if Sean is totally wrong and Tawi is innocent.
Yes ep 8 was so good!! Finally feel like every piece is falling into the right places. Sean and White are fully…
I 100% agree - Gawin was the standout in an ep of standouts. It doesn't hurt that his looks have developed as much as his acting - he's the best leading man material in any BL I've seen.
I have to say I was shaking a little after the Dan/Yok scene - where did that come from? Gawin was absolutely on fire. I've liked but not loved this series so far, but this episode was as good as Bad Buddy Ep 5. The Sean/Tawi confrontation was also pitch-perfect - I'm really amazed at how much both Off and Gawin's acting has improved - that was just excellent.
Also, Todd is evil. I wouldn't be surprised if it's all him an Tawi is a good guy. Anyone who's a billionaire that brings a bag of soy milk cartons for to a friend for a meal has to be evil.
Totally agree with the product placement in ep 5 being way too much lol. But for the couples... I don't think…
Well, I agree - but internalized homophobia can be heteronormative conditiioning that leads you to think you should be with a girl, not a guy, i.e. valuing one type of love over another. That's not visceral hatred of homosexuality, but it's still a powerful motivator - especially for men, who are expected to be masculine - which has nothing to do with being gay, of course, but that's the perception.
OMG I am laughing as I read all the comments. Totally agree why do I keep watching it, thinking it will get better.…
Maybe we watch it because it's easy to scan through for the stuff you want to see. So far that's about 90 seconds per episode, but hopefully once the romance starts up there will be more. Also, I just can't look away from Son - he's so cute I just want to hug and squeeze him untill he's dead (that's a literary refence - I don' t really want to kill him.)
Gen Y is a nonsensical trainwreck - this is merely supernaturally slow.
Totally agree with the product placement in ep 5 being way too much lol. But for the couples... I don't think…
That's a legitimate interpretation - but Fah and Thorn have had quite a bit of time to get reintroduced and yet they always seem to recoil from almost-affection as if there's something wrong with it. Rmember, Fah had what being in love feels like described to him and he purposefully did the opposite as if there's something wrong with it.
Woth Dome and Vee, I think they just this ep understand/acknowledge what they feel which is why they talked about it (and note how vaguely Vee described it), and with Saen & Aii, they are the lighthearted cute couple, but it doesn't feel to me that they tonally match the other pairs for the reasons you describe - neither of them really have any problem with it - Aii just didn't like Saen and it took time to win him over.
Dome and Vee are so evocative of me and so many other gay boys at that age that it's hard for me to read it any other way.
Dome and vee in no way look homophobic but rather two people who realised they are strongly attracted to one another…
Do you know what internalized homophobia is? That's not what you're describing - at all. Also, you didn't read my post - I said the Aii-Saen couple doesn't tonally match the other two - it's so open and the other pairs are repressed.
I understand your point but it's still cheating and cheating is never acceptable imo. The fact that Vee is a guy…
I don't think they really understood & acknowledged their feelings until this episode, and once they did, they put a stop to it. I don't think they've done anything morally objectionable. If they do anything after that discussion, then it's cheating. Even if Dome breaks up with Vee's sister, that's still kind of awful - can you imagine how betrayed you'd feel if a sibling did that to you?
Really Vee? Really?! After 4.5 episodes, you realized that? Don't get me wrong, I like the couple equally. They…
I took it as Vee and Dome didn't really understand or admit to themselves what they were feeling - that's not really cheating, but now that they've acknowledged this it would be cheating, so it would be difficult to accept if they did anything before Dome dumps Vee's sister. TBH it's still not cool - dumping your girlfriend for her brother - sounds like a gay porn plotline. But love and all that.
Oh, for God's sake! Does Thailand produce nothing but refreshing drinks and snacks? Or are the owners of the refreshing drink and snack companies all fujoshi? The product placement was totally out of control this episode - like seriously distracting and annoying. "I've heard it has collagen in it!" Why the hell would I want collagen in my drink?
I'll be honest, VeeDome is what's holding my interest here. Those two are on fire. That one shot where Dome was at the railing - even at that distance you could feel the heat. The other couples don't do much for me.
I think a problem with this series is that they're trying to have it both ways: internalized homophobia but broad acceptance and encouragement from everyone, even themselves when it's someone else. You either have to have a fantasy world like in Brothers where ALL boys pursue other boys, or a more realistic setting, otherwise it doesn't ring true. Aii & Saen are cute, but they don't tonally match the other two couples, and in comparison make all the others seem like idiots or morally questionable.
Vee & Dome don't truly seem to understand their feelings, which is very typical in a homophobic society where you have no context to frame what you're feeling - you can only see it as very close friendship with someone you want to be around all the time. But in the homophilic society that this appears to be, they just seem like cheaters, and I don't think that's the intention. I really understand their story because I lived it (except with the sister thing).
Likewise, Why are Thorn and Fah so afraid to tell each other how they feel? If they were repressed, I would understand, but here it makes no sense - their friends would be pushing them together like Fah himself did with Saen and Aii.
This is one of the few BLs where the main couple is intersting but I wish everyone else would go away.
Peat and King are also interesting, but they have no screentime and their story doesn't integrate with the main characters.
I like Non, but he serves no purpose other than to make us feel sorry for him - why do they have to torture him every ep? Suffering unrequited love is a thing we all face, so the realism is good, but this is a romantic fantasy, so Non needs some love - but it would have to be a new character. Another new character. Sigh.
It's too late in the story to introduce Valen's father. This is essentially Ep 10 of 12. I don't even really remember who that profoundly annoying person who interrupted Valen & Khaitoon is, but that scene was excruciating. And who the hell are June and Toy, and why are they chewing up screentime? And what was with the Panggo paint scene? What was the purpose of that? I barely remember her. I presume Khaitoon will wander in and misunderstand, thus ruining whatever is unique and special about them by reducing this to the most tired cliche imaginable.
This story is a huge mess. I don't understand why they introduced so many new elements - why not just concentrate on the main pair and more on Peat and King?
But I do like Valen & Khaitoon - their interaction is very real and believable, with Valen being romantically clueless and immature. Pak is so cute.
Also, Todd is evil. I wouldn't be surprised if it's all him an Tawi is a good guy. Anyone who's a billionaire that brings a bag of soy milk cartons for to a friend for a meal has to be evil.
Gen Y is a nonsensical trainwreck - this is merely supernaturally slow.
This hospital has no concept of patient confidentiality - my goodness.
Woth Dome and Vee, I think they just this ep understand/acknowledge what they feel which is why they talked about it (and note how vaguely Vee described it), and with Saen & Aii, they are the lighthearted cute couple, but it doesn't feel to me that they tonally match the other pairs for the reasons you describe - neither of them really have any problem with it - Aii just didn't like Saen and it took time to win him over.
Dome and Vee are so evocative of me and so many other gay boys at that age that it's hard for me to read it any other way.
I'll be honest, VeeDome is what's holding my interest here. Those two are on fire. That one shot where Dome was at the railing - even at that distance you could feel the heat. The other couples don't do much for me.
I think a problem with this series is that they're trying to have it both ways: internalized homophobia but broad acceptance and encouragement from everyone, even themselves when it's someone else. You either have to have a fantasy world like in Brothers where ALL boys pursue other boys, or a more realistic setting, otherwise it doesn't ring true. Aii & Saen are cute, but they don't tonally match the other two couples, and in comparison make all the others seem like idiots or morally questionable.
Vee & Dome don't truly seem to understand their feelings, which is very typical in a homophobic society where you have no context to frame what you're feeling - you can only see it as very close friendship with someone you want to be around all the time. But in the homophilic society that this appears to be, they just seem like cheaters, and I don't think that's the intention. I really understand their story because I lived it (except with the sister thing).
Likewise, Why are Thorn and Fah so afraid to tell each other how they feel? If they were repressed, I would understand, but here it makes no sense - their friends would be pushing them together like Fah himself did with Saen and Aii.
Peat and King are also interesting, but they have no screentime and their story doesn't integrate with the main characters.
I like Non, but he serves no purpose other than to make us feel sorry for him - why do they have to torture him every ep? Suffering unrequited love is a thing we all face, so the realism is good, but this is a romantic fantasy, so Non needs some love - but it would have to be a new character. Another new character. Sigh.
It's too late in the story to introduce Valen's father. This is essentially Ep 10 of 12. I don't even really remember who that profoundly annoying person who interrupted Valen & Khaitoon is, but that scene was excruciating. And who the hell are June and Toy, and why are they chewing up screentime? And what was with the Panggo paint scene? What was the purpose of that? I barely remember her. I presume Khaitoon will wander in and misunderstand, thus ruining whatever is unique and special about them by reducing this to the most tired cliche imaginable.
This story is a huge mess. I don't understand why they introduced so many new elements - why not just concentrate on the main pair and more on Peat and King?
But I do like Valen & Khaitoon - their interaction is very real and believable, with Valen being romantically clueless and immature. Pak is so cute.