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Hey, get off my turf. You're out-bitchy-commenting me.

That's not the issue - it's that characters are behaving in ways that haven't been set up or make sense. Why was Aek being such a dick? When did we see this level of violence and desperation in Aue? From behaving with placidity bordering on catatonia, it's too violent a transition to go into, well violence. We haven't seen any tension building - it just showed up suddenly. It's much like when Aek said "I think everything you do, you do for yourself." The problem isn't conflict, it's unmotivated conflcit coming out of nowhere. It's also unnecessary - we're obviously going to be getting a bunch from the three evil chefs.

Of course they're going to end up together. This is a Thai BL. Is anyone saying they won't?

So Vi-Phob called Eve, who drove all the way to the hospital to make one bitchy comment and then left? What would be the point of that? I agree that they're in league, but I don't see how that could have had any impact on how Aek feels about Aue, unless there's a whole episode worth of things that happened off-screen. I think it's just sh#$$y writing.

Thai producers seem to confuse organic drama with manufactured drama. You don't need a White Van of Death or sudden sexual assault when you have well-drawn characters and plots.

That's a really good comparison. Or who didn't survive The Shipper. Grrr.

That was a good instinct because it only went downhill from there - to sexual assault and violence. I agree - after all the tortuous slow-burn, to have this desgree of crash-and-burn is audience abuse.

I could understand he would call someone he doesn't know over his friends because he doesn't want any of his friends to know what happened, or he's embarassed to face them. As for spending the night, it's a little dubious - maybe he couldn't afford a room, and he didn't want to see his roommate. All the other characters work for Aue, so that would be weird. Also, Vi-Phob is gorgeous, so there's that. Anyway, that was the least incomprehensible thing that happened this ep. But I agree, this is starting to get insulting.

There's not enough glue in the world.

I think it's beyond redemption. This episode was excruciating to watch - it took me hours as I had to take breaks, and I'm not subjecting myself to any more of it. I don't even want to see a love scene - I'd expect it to be torture to watch at this point.

Can we have a gratuitous shower scene with Chef Vi-Phob? And it's a good thing Leo & Fiat weren't home, or Leo might have had henchmen beat them for intruding. :)

Anyway, I don't think I can do this show anymore. Previous episodes have been shallow and too heavy on style over substance, but that was much preferable to this disaster.

I'm not going to judge Mark's acting because I don't know what's him and what's the directing, but his character is an emotional cypher. I will say that Zung has the same director and he's not. Was Aek out of character this ep? Who knows? What exactly is his character? He was a rude, ungrateful asshole, that's for sure, but his motivations are opaque and incomprehensible. He's more of a plot device than a person.

There is no way Aue would behave like this. Could anyone misread the room that badly? You could say he knew Aek had feelings for him and tried to force the issue, but unfortunately we haven't been shown any feelings from Aek, so it's not a convincing explanation, and in any case, that was sexual assault. I would normally say it was mild and that people are flawed and lose control, but he's Aek's boss, so this is very serious.

And Eve just happened to be at that particular hospital in the middle of the night, in that particular ward at that particular moment? Come on. Although I suppose Vi-Phob is in league with her and called her, but still, why go all the way there just to make one snarky comment and then leave? I still want to see Vi-Phob take a shower, though.

There is no thought to the plot, characterization, or flow of this story, I'll say it: it's terribly written. The cinematography is brilliant, maybe only matched by ITSAY, and in some ways better. The overall quality of the production is first rate, but it's as if the creators had a few "visual paintings" in mind and nothing else - the rest of this is just an attempt to fill the spaces between beautiful images. Of all the characters, only Aue and Nuna are identifiably human. Everyone else are robots or cardboard cutouts that can somehow speak. The conversation between Prem & Vich was LOL funny, it was so wooden and artificial.

And how many more evil chefs are going to show up before this is over? This is ep 8 - did we need yet another villain in addition to the manufactured drama?

I truly got why some people really liked this up until this point, but it's hard for me to see the plusses over the minuses after Ep 8. This is by far the greatest BL disappointment I've ever experienced. There are certainly much worse shows than this, but none that I expected much from, and none that had the incredible potential this had. I'm done, I'm afraid.

This would have worked better as a high school drama - I get that Mario is a bit inexperienced, but he's acting like he's 14. He's super-cute, but for him to be this insecure, we needed to see something traumatic that happened in his past - otherwise he's just too immature. And if he's that embarassed of everything, it's hard to believe he would have let Hilda come dressed like that. I'm not really getting a picture of Jethro's personality, and so he's coming off as insincere. His smile never seems to reach his eyes.

Anyway, the production quality of this is fairly high, so there's that, and next week we get Ron Angeles. Why didn't they case him as Jethro? Anyway, it looks like his character might be a player, which would be a nice change from his usual role of pefect boyfriend material that people inexplicably bypass for some tiresome schlubb.

I think it's worth watching. It's light entertainment and not going to change your life, but it's cute, and Jame (Mix) does a really good wounded puppy-dog. I wouldn't say there's not plot at all, but it's faded a little into the background. I assume it will become more important later.

Well, at least things happened this ep. It was actually an improvement. The entire plot depends on people not communicating at all about everything and totally misunderstanding other people in what should be rather obvious cirsumstances - like there's no way anyone with basic human emotions could walk into a room, see Lemuel's face, and think "he's flirting!" Come on.

The scene between Vlad and the maid was excruciating and took up nearly half the episode, and still, we're being preached at about what love is, which I suppose is in the title, but still, maybe show, don't tell.

Speaking of which, it would be nice if the production could trust the actors to portray what their characters are feeling instead of using voiceovers to tell us everything. This feels like it was written as a novel and nobody understood how to adapt it to a visual medium.

On the positive side, the technical aspects of the episode were improved. We're still not getting the performance out of Kaleb that he's capable of, and I wish this could let him shine like he usually does. Grey Ramos, on the other hand, did a great job of showing us Lemuel's devastation. Axl should be used more. Maybe next ep.

I'm getting tired of all the trans and effeminate characters being played for laughs. It's deeply offensive and further, it's lazy. If you can't come up with a way to be funny without humiliating entire groups of people that you should be supporting, then get out of BL. At least homophobes are honest about their bigotry - you're masquerading as something else.

I think it was at the end of TT2 Ep 9. In Ep 0 of DSN, the torture is skipped and they just show Leo taking off the blindfold.

To me it looked like a middle-class high school prom, or maybe bridesmaids at a wedding where the bride hated her bridesmaids. The tailoring was poor and nothing was very fashionable. I was really excited for the party because I was expecting something really special the way it was built up, but yikes. I didn't really like Y Destiny at all, but the costume design was spectacular. It's not expensive to do - it just needs someone who knows what they're doing.

Leon's tux looked pretty good, though, and I loved his hair like that.

Are you joking or is there really a "Not That Innocent"? If you're joking, that was funny. But I'd rather it be true. The secondary couple should have a series - otherwise there was no point to them.

That was really wonderful - but it needed to be longer. I'm all for not dragging something out, but it does need to be long enough to do the subject justice. For example, it felt like there was an entire episode missing in the middle of ep 4 - how did they get from the conversation in the pool hall to the conversation at home? I don't think it needed a lot more time - but it needed one more ep.

Then they throw the mind-blowingly hot Jun Zhe on my screen and not give that story thread any space at all. Or was that sort of an intro into a sequel? I mean, I thought Blake Chang was about as hot as a man can get, and then this guy shows up.

Anyway, this is how you do chemistry between two guys. There is nothing explicit in this, but you feel like you're watching to people who are in love - they want to touch each other, even when just standing watching a sunset - not to obviously straight guys who are super-uncomfortable with what they're doing keeping a foot of space between their bodies at all times, even when they're having sex.

It was OK. Cute boys, good acting, good production values, empty plot. This is one of those series that I'll forget I watched, then see a reference to it, look it up, and then see this comment that I'm writing and realize I saw it.

I'm getting tired of grown men going through gay panic. It's just old and worn out now and tiresome to watch. I get it in high school kids, but come on.

Anyway, I don't regret watching it and would recommend it as a pleasant trifle.

One thing that's starting to get LOL funny is when guys sprint, and they were seriously running hard, and shed not a single drop of perspiration. To be fair, their pores are totally plugged up by the white makeup they're plastered with and are probably physically incapable of sweating.

I can't figure out what you mean by "unisensory shit." Is that autocorrect doing something strange to "unsavory"? I more or less agree, but I think there's been a lot of really dysfunctional stuff going on hidden (and not hidden) in plain sight. Leo is so controlling it borders on personality disorder, the nearly insane unmotivated jealousy that just doesn't occur with people who know each other well and are totally in love, and the violations of trust, like Leo constantly going to Fiat's father, as if Fiat is their child that they need to discuss parenting. And we won't get into sleeping with every man you can get your hands on just to hurt someone (whcih is usibg other people for unsavory ends) or kidnapping and torturing the person you "love".

If people enjoy that, that's totally fine - but people pretend Leo & Fiat have some sort of normal healthy relationship, and it just isn't. If it's supposed to be a D/s relationship, that needs to have been discussed and consented to.

OMG, I haven't LOL's like that in a long time. I'll bring the napalm.