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I agree with you about the Pi storyline, but not Duean - Duean is supposed to be frustrating, and I like that he's gradually transformed over the course of the series. He f#$%s up, Meen calls him on it, he improves himself, just like he will after what he did this ep.

The problem with it is there's only one ep left and I don't see how it can be tied up in that time. I have a feeling it will be a usual GMMTV ending, with everyone giving high fives and roll end-credits.

I didn't feel the same way because they've just introduced this instead of it being part of his characterization throughout the series. It doesn't feel sincere to me. I am very appreciative that that they're giving a character a realistic and universal motivation, but it still needed to have been well-written.

If he'd unbuttoned one more button I would have needed hospitalization.

I think it's done terribly. It's come out of nowhere the last couple of eps instead of a theme running through the story since the beginning. I'm glad too that it's not internalized homophobia, but it still needs to be well-written. Meen & Duean are well-written, but their story's pacing is obviously off if there's only one more episode because I don't see how on earth they're going to resolve it that fast.

I've lost patience with this series. It's just going in circles.

First, the voiceovers need to stop. If you don't trust your actors to convey their feelings, then get better actors. If you don't trust your audience, then f#$% you. When Pi was hit by what Yok said, we should see it in his face, not hear him saying it in his head.

Meen & Duean had some movement, but not really - Meen has no idea what's going on and there's only one more ep - Duean is going to tell him he likes him and Meen will process it all in one ep? The Meen & Duean storyline is much better-written than the main one, but I don't see how they can resolve everything with so little time.

As for the main storyline, I don't really find Pi relatable. His issues are, but they haven't been portrayed convincingly. His refusal to accept Mork was solidly couched in terms of him wanting someone else and viewing Mork as a rival. Now they're changing it to insecurity, which they've never given us a sense of since the first ep. There was no organic flow, just a sudden change in gears.

Is GMMTV every going to get an ending right?

Never underestimate Jennie. People have died because they did. (3 Will B Free reference)

It has nothing to do with whether or not there was sex or kissing - in fact it's getting tiresome that people keeping bringing that up. If we needed sex & kissing we wouldn't watch BL, because there's virtually none in it.

ITSAY felt like two gay men in a romance. 2 gether doesn't, it feels like 2 straight guys barely pretending. It's about writing and acting (and directing), not sex. Although a total lack of physical affection is a bit much - the famous high-five. Although there doesn't need to be sex, there does need to be attraction, and we don't really see it. It's in the way people lean in to each other, stand too close, hands brush unnecessarily. Tine and Sarawat have a bromance, not a romance. That's a deliberate choice, likely due to marketing to conservative or repressive societies (like China) and a lack of courage to push boundaries.

LGBTQ+ representation is all over American series aimed at domestic audiences, but has virtually disappeared in mainstream cinema because they want Chinese sales. That seems to be happening to BL as well - early BL actually had quite a bit of sex, and that has been trending down. Sometimes it works (ITSAY), sometimes it doesn't (2Gether).

Whether or not an actor is a nice person is irrelevant - what matters is their ability to convincingly portray a character, and the willingness of the production to let them. Maybe Bright and Win could if allowed, or maybe not - we'll never know. As for the acting, it's not great, but it's not worse than the average BL actor. Bright did a solid job, and Bright was, well, there - the seme just has to stand around and look manly. The uke does all the heavy lifting when it comes to acting.

The teaser makes it look like a trope checklist. At least could we petition the Thai government to change the university uniform? I'm not sure I can take another see of white shirt/black slacks.

Well, he still had to audition. Also, almost all BL actors are students, so this wouldn't be too out of the blue, and I believe the summer break is coming up. As far as not taking the job, then he'll resent Oh for the rest of his life. And he'd be an idiot, because there's no way Oh is ready to forgive him yet.

If he did that, I will groan and demote this show in my standing. If he's showing up after the show has filmed, then I can deal with it.

I think the screenwriter and director must have recently gotten dumped. :)

I enjoyed them. The acting here has matured, and speaking of matured, Mon... does things to me now. What a transformation - at first I was thinking "where's the other guy from My Friendship?"

I think he loved Teh but didn't think it was possible so he chose Bass. Once Teh became possible, he made a terrible mistake and chose his true love over his Plan B. Sometimes Plan B is a better plan.

Jai isn't faculty - he's a student director, so he didn't do anything criminal - but he is a malignant narcissist at best.

Teh has always been selfish and self-absorbed, and I can see this happening years into their relationship, but this series must start days after Last Night in Phuket, so Teh's love faded really, really quickly. I think this is a great series, but I don't really see why it needed to be a continuation of ITSAY if there wasn't going to be reasonable continuity.

I still think it's too early in the relationship. I agree that it's not always true that once a cheater always a cheater, but his fascination for Jai started weeks after he and Oh got together.

That stopped short of cheating, but to me it's too early in their relationship for either of them to have strong feelings for someone else. After ten years together, there can be a confidence in the solidity of the relationship, but in this case it was apparently always shaky since this starts immediately after ITSAY.

You might argue that it was emotional cheating, but honestly, everyone does in a long-term relationship - you can't control how you feel, and love changes over time and becomes deeper and stronger, as opposed to the passion of initial infatuation. That Teh somehow lost his in the gap between ITSAY and the first ep, which should be only a few weeks to me means Oh needs to find someone else, because what he said in their last discussion is 100% spot on.

You're right, but then why make this a continuation of ITSAY? The change in direction is a bit extreme. This begins at most weeks after the last series - how did their relationship end up on life-support so quickly? You could see it in the first ep, and we never really saw the fault lines, although Teh has always been selfish and self-absorbed. The mood is so bleak that I can't help but think the director is using this as a way of processing getting dumped himself.

There's going to be a problem with the audience no matter what happens next week. If they get back together it will be inauthentic (unless there's a large time-leap) and make half of us groan, and if they don't get back together, the other half will pull out their torches and pitchforks.

That white shirt was a particularly bad mistake. The heart one wasn't much better.

I think maybe the problem is that this has been marketed as a BL, and it's not a BL. This is an adult gay-themed drama, whereas ITSAY was somewhere in the middle - it had a touch of the fantastical (or at least whimsy) that's usually present in BL, this doesn't. It's bleak and jaded, and I'm not getting enough character consistency. They probably should have set this years later because it's hard to imagine their relationship deflating so badly so soon after they got together.

That's true, but there shouldn't be problems like this that early in their relationship. Oh is right - Teh needs something Oh can't give him, or that wouldn't have been possible. Oh can forgive him without getting back together with him - how can he ever trust Teh's feelings for him or that Teh will stay with him? For me, the worst thing Teh did was at the party - Oh figured so small in his mind that he didn't even bother to hide what he was feeling in front of him.

That's a problem in the relationship and is not related to forgivenes.

That doesn't change how Oh feels. The only caveat is we don't know WHEN Teh pulled up. Was it in the next couple of days or a few weeks or months later? If it was a couple of days, he's not going to get anywhere.