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Good lord, the endless Som Som scenes were excruciating. And in case anyone is unfamiliar with the origin of the word excruciating, it basically means 'bytorment by crucifiction'. Now I know how Jesus felt. That was in poor taste. I apologize without reservation.

Although I'll speculate that if they'd had BLs like this in his time he would have crucified himself. And then the football match. Were all of you counting down? 3... 2...1... injury. Is this rugby or football? MMA? How many times are they going to use the same plot device?

This is the worst written BL i've ever seen. It's worse than Amore. There, I said it.

And now, the implausible failure of communication. Is there a checklist that's distributed to BL writers? WTF? Is Bbomb mentally challenged? His phone is broken and Jin is injured - is he too stupid to understand why he hasn't heard from him? Aaargh! Is there really nothing better avaiable to make into a BL than garbage writing like this?

I can't take it anymore! Am I alone? I can barely watch ANY BLs anymore - they're all the same thing over and over and over. This series was only just so-so the first time I saw it when it was called SOTUS and was better written.

And now cue the unnecessary flashback. They're flashing back to a flashback they already flashed back to earlier in the episoide - is this for real? Do they think we're as mentally challeneged as Bbomb? Who thought it would be interesting to watch an hour of lame-ass unnecessary and repetivitive sulking?

Thank you all. I feel much better now.

Do you know how I was able to make it through the episode? Because an ad came on featuring a sining pubic hair, and I couldn't help but think it was much more creative and intereesting than this BL, and that made mae laugh to myself. Also, Boss was in it. And Fourwheels.

BL damp towels can cure cancer. And they need to, because Asians instantaneously contract fatal illnesses if they get rained on. They should also not be allowed to slice vegetables.

I found UWMA tiresome because it was put together in such a way as to drain all dramatic tension out of it. First, the main pair met and got together immediately, so there was never anything to overcome and so I never invested in them. What happened to the past couple is revealed in the first minute of the show, so I just skipped over everything with them because why bother? If the two storylines had run in parallel and then the fate of the past couple had been revealed deep into the show, like just before they met the family, that would have been so powerful. But because all these shows are adapted from novels, they are not designed for a visual medium, they lack the energy of a show like ITSAY, IPYTM or Gaya Sa Pelikula, which are full of visual symbolism & metaphor.

I did really like He's Coming to Me - it was exciting for having one of the first characters to actually identify as gay rather than not-gay-I-only-love-one-guy-forever-and-ever-Amen. And it had Ohm Pawat. Which underlines another issue. Billkin is not nearly as physically attractive as the usual chisled fat-free Thai BL actor, but he's 1,000 times more compelling because he can act, and you can feel his intellect. Why do they keep putting amateurs chosen for looks in these roles?

I skip everthing with the copy couple, the basketball couple, and Newyear couple - it makes the rest much easier to endure. I'm even considering skipping everything Phob-related, even though I love Aof.

Consent is complicated, but I understand young people today don't feel that way - whcih is why the rate at which they have sex has plummeted compared to previous generations, but that's fine with me - there will be far fewer annoying young people in future generations.

In my experience gay men dispense with the flirting and just have sex if both parties are interested. In my heyday (I'm not proud of it, just relating the facts) I can recall having sex without even exchanging a word first. If in a situation where you're actually interested in someone as a person, it's not that different from straight flirting (people are people). I feel like BLs tend to turn up the volume to ten notches past what any normal person would do. If you've been watching Y-Destiny, Nuea with Sun and Kaeng with Puth were so OTT forward with their flirting that I would have punched them in the face if they'd approached me like that (not really, but I would have said "Excuse me" and walked away) - it's as if some middle-aged female virgin had imagined the way gay men interact. Oh wait, that's what actually happened.

Sorry, that sounded bitter. But I'm getting tired of the same thing over and over and over and over, failing to represent anything approaching LGBTQ+ experience coupled with intense homophobia and misogyny.

Why not stop adapting bad novels by mediocre writers and write original screenplays? Does the audience really want to watch the same thing over and over? Is there anyone that doesn't groan when the a preview shows were getting yet another series about engineers?

Another gay man's ratings: I absolutely loathed Theory of Love and was convinced people confuse tons of crying with quality acting, likewise Until We Meet Again. Love By Chance was OK, I guess, because I handn't yet seen the fifty other BLs that were nearly identical, and Tharntype was sort of refreshing for its lunatic transgressiveness, and people actualy enjoying sex for once instead of merely enduring it, at least on the part of the uke, who usually needs to behave as if he finds his bf physically repusive. TT2 was unwatchable. And don't get me started on the ridiculous heteronormative (by 19th c standards) uke/seme dynamic.

I haven't thought about director bad-faith, but I will certainly think about it now. To me it seems more about following a formula rather than anything else. I've joked that I suspect that there's only one BL writer, and she's chained in a basement somewhere being forced to add in more accidental kisses, screeching trans characters, etc. Maybe it's more producer & director cynicism and full-on audience acceptance of the formula and expecation that they'll get it. I've even made BL Trope Bingo cards.

For the record, I don't particularly like this series, and I'm probably a bit partial to Mork because Pond is so gorgeous and has a "gentleman vibe" about him. I do enjoy everything related to Duean - I actually endured Tonhon Chonlatee (talk about toxic characters - like the worst ever) just for Neo.

I didn't get the Sikh issue until it was explained to me - I thought it was just a parody of Bollywood - the visuals included a lot of stock Indian soap moves. In the USA where I live, Sikhs are all doctors, so I was unaware there's a stereotype in Asia of them being violent. I do notice the almost ceaseless stream of misogyny and heteronormativity, though.

Maybe the first step is for BL producers to stop adapting bad fanfic novels and start writing original screenplays. What's the best Thai BL? The consensus would probably be ITSAY - and why is that? This is a visual medium - novels don't often work as screenplay adaptations. Like Oxygen, where the schtick in the novel was a guy who had lost his smile. Sure, maybe that works in print, but comes off as a sociopathic mannequin in live-action. Filipino BL has it's lows too, but I think it's served well by an LGBTQ+ sensibility and LGBTQ+ involvement in the productions.

That was better than I expected - Ivo Canlas was endearingly annoying and vulnerable. The start was a little slow, and I'm a little over COVID at this point, but it was enough for me to look forward to the rest. I love Royce's goofy smile in that pic.

I forgot this was Filipino without the roosters.

There are too many people in this series. I was debating with someone about Newyear and Both, but after this ep I think they're facebook pages. You know how people post on facebook to make their lives look perfect? That's all they are. It feels like they're promoting a brand or something, and their advice sounds like it comes out of fortune cookies.

The basketball storyline seems unrelated to anything else and totally extraneous, and I can't stand the copy customer guy - he's so oily and smarmy - it's like the director said "come on so strong that the audience wants to punch you in the face" or something.

I wish it would focus on the main trio and their relationships. As it is, I'm FF'ing though a lot of it. I'm glad the Lukmo-Simai relationship had some movement this ep - Simai is the best thing about this series for me - he's so expressive and adorable. I love Aof, but he's starting to seem wasted on Phob, who is not very appealing. The poor guy is so talented and he doesn't seem to get the meaty roles he deserves.

There's an adorableness factor to this series that's appealing, and I'm not dropping it, but it's like there's a really good show in there partially buried under the debris of uninteresting side stories.

History4 is way better than this. But this is better than Tharntype2 for sure.

Some of the stories are great, some are awful. It really depends on what you like. Personally, I liked Thurs/Pao and am loving Sat/Choke, and for me, Sun/Nuea, Mon/Team, and Puth/Kaeng were torture to watch. I don't think you can go wrong with Thurs/Pao, so maybe try that and see what you think.

I played like that when I was eight. Also, he isn't 11 - he was having flashes of memory. He's more like 18 with amnesia from 11 to 18.

Huh? What do you mean? That was incredibly cute and their chemistry was off the charts. I assume you have a problem with the extremely mild sexual contact at the end?

While it's dramatically not important in a story, this ep made me realize that it really is nice to see people interact as a couple - that never really happens until the last 30 seconds of a BL series, but here we got a full ep, even if a lot of it was played for comedy. (And let's be honest, a normal 20 year old man would have completely lost control having a Grade A+ hunk like Mork (good God that man is beautiful. Those shoulders, the voice, that face, the porcelain skin...) laying on top of him for 4 hours. Just the friction from his breathing would have been enough for several "finishes".

Anyway, this was a fun ep. I've been getting tired of this series (other than Duean) and this was a happy surprise.

I'm probably even older than you - and for me there was zero representation when I was young, except for extremely, psychotically bad rep, followed by a long period of LGBTQ+ rep (actually pretty much only gay male) that were completely flawless saintly characters that were so boring and dramatically useless that they were generally written out of series because it was a waste of an actor slot.

Then there was a refreshing period where gay characters were "normalized". Now we're entering a period where utter moral and behavioral perfection is expecting in EVERY character or they're given the horribly overused label "toxic". A lot of people have described Mork that way, which is absolutley absurd.

I get your concern about the predatory thing, but in BL that is limited to "effeminate" characters. FUTS is fairly free of that, but the fundashi is ruthless, if at least (thankfully) not sexually. This is intensely homophobic and misogynist at the same time and is related to the reluctance to have main characters identify as gay - "I'm not gay, I only love______", or the distubing frequency with which the uke or woman needs to be forced - it's less morally wrong to rape someone than it is for a man to desire and pursue bottoming, or a woman to want and pursue sex.

I don't agree at all (well, mostly - I agree a little. ) Mork is in love with Pi and is pursuing him. Do you think he should have just sent him a nice letter explaining how he felt? When you're in love, you pursue someone. I don't understand why people today feel that EVERYTHING is some sort of violation. I'm afraid to even look at the comments for the latest Y Destiny - I'm sure everyone is screaming that Choke raped Sat.

The think that Mork did that was out of line was the interview with the fujoshis, and he apologized for that. Letting that female friend play his gf was also dickish, but you could see he wasn't into it. Predatory is how I'd describe the way effeminate or trans characters are usually potrayed (thankfully not in FUTS) where they're screeching and pawing at every half-attractive man in sight. Mork has pushed it the limits a bit, but why does everyone always expect perfect behavior from BL characters and are always so unforgiving of any failings? Mork is 20, possibly in love for the first time. Were you a perfect gentleman or lady with your first crush? I was a complete idiot, personally. Probably pretty much habitually until I was 30. Plus, it's obvious to him and everyone else that Pi reciprocates his feelings, which is a strong inducement to continue. Pi never told him to stop, and when he finally did, Mork stopped.

We don't see a lot of what Mork's character outside of pursuing Pi is like because Pi is the POV character (except in the Dueang/Meen subplot). But Mork is sweet and caring - we've seen that he does nice things for Pi anonymously and without taking credit.

The point is that if nobody pushes anything, then nobody will ever get together and the human race will become exinct. You don't just sit around cyberstalking someone and expect it to lead to love.

Yes, it seems desperate or like compliment-fishing. It doesn't make sense, since the other most common thing he says is "I know you like me, just admit it."

What does what mean? Or do you mean Meen? What does Meen mean?

Looks like a BL-by-the-numbers trope checklist. Engineer? Check. Serve food fakeout? Check. 2016 called - they want their BL back.